Hi, Joe McCormick. I'm going to take a "wild stab" at "Kelleys, down" and guess it may have meant "eggs over". I don't recall ever hearing the term; but I do remember the Howard Johnson's on Stenton Avenue having a lunch counter. Whenever my dad & I would finish bowling at the Stenton Avenue Lanes, we would proceed to Howard Johnson's for a burger, fries, & Coke. I used to think those burgers were the best in town. Now that I'm a lot older & a little wiser, I would say it wasn't the burger; but the fact that my dad & I were enjoying an evening out with each other. My dad worked two jobs, so it was a real treat when he had a free night & would take me bowling. We lived at 1333 E. Haines Street; so the bowling alley & Howard Johnson's were within walking distance. As "they" say, "those were the good old days"! Thanks for the memories. Take care & God bless.
Lorraine (Cupo) Kelly, fl; ic '55; cdhs '59 [06-30-2011]
My cousin, John(Ace) Spino,held a football record--he caught a pass on the 2yrd line,& went 98yrds for a TD while playing for Roman Catholic. Does anyone know if that record still stands? Sadly,Ace Spino passed away a few years ago-to those who knew him,it was a great loss.RIP John--your cousin Lou Giorno
lou giorno, Mr G DOS [06-30-2011]
A belive a "KELLY" was a BLT--down -toast
vera carey canavan, St. Vincent's 1956--Little Flower 1960 [06-30-2011]
Bob Eastside: You're lucky. I dont remember MOST about anything unless I read it here first. Then I go "Oh Yeah I remember that now" LOL I was kinda like from everywhere. I lived close to the Hollow so most of my time was spent there. But I was a rambler and no matter what rec center or ballfield, poolhall, bar or club or school I went to, I guess I got along with, and basically knew, just about everyone. Pre-HS I could compete in all sports but my polio limited me later so I went right to coaching. Anyway, ....Um.....er...ahh.. I forget the reason for this post. LOL
Joe Graber [06-30-2011]
Del Conner: Patty Gagliardi was my cousin. My mother and her mother were sisters. Patty had 7 sisters and 1 brother. Her father was a stone mason in Ship Bottom. It was more than a summer home. My father and my uncle built a big brick home at 14th and Central in Ship Bottom. My Aunt Ann took the 8 kids, Patty was third oldest of these beautiful Italian girls, to Philly while business was slow at the beach. Funny Story about her Dad Eugine Gagliardi, My godfather. With 7 girls running around the house at the shore all coming home from the beach at the same time, my uncle, also being hard of hearing would try and hear me talking to him and would turn up his hearing aid until he could take no more. Then very calmly he would put his fingers to his lips to shhhhush me and walk over to the frig and pull out some Limburger cheese and open it. As soon as the girls smelled the cheese they would scream and run out of the kitchen yelling "ewe daddy has the limberger out." Uncle Gene would say to me after readjusting his hearing aid and putting the cheese away without touching it saying : Joey (Italian accent) "Nowa wea cana talka." He NEVER yelled at his girls. Just me and his son. LOL Eugene Gagliardi, his son David, my father and myself built the pedistal that holds the bust of Gen. Meede at Barnegat lighthouse. We had built a whole wall but due to handicap accessabilty the wall was torn down and replaced. But the Pesdistal still stands. Anyway: The Gagliardi's were the most fun family I've ever met. All of them kept ya laughubg and had the greatest sense of humor of any one family I have ever met even to this day. Sorry for Babbling.
Joe Graber, Hey Dymszo : get off the rocks [06-30-2011]
Hello Everyone, I was reading the posting and saw the one about the shooting at Wayne and Roberts.I just want to comment on the Media and how they treat Germantown. When I lived on Morris Street in the 80’s and 90’s if something good happened in the neighborhood the media would call our neighborhood East Falls. One time while standing in front of the Chelten Ave Train Station.. (The neighbors planted flowers there). If it was a shooting, robbery, or anything negative it is Germantown. The media for some reason sees Germantown as negative. But East Falls, Mount Airy and Chestnut Hill positive. I continue to see that pattern in the paper and on the news. I am not saying that nothing bad happens in the old neighborhood but it would be nice to read or hear about the good people and good deeds that they do who live there. Brother Al for an example and all good he does for the community..
Erda Armstrong Graham, From the Westside of Germantown [06-30-2011]
My Dad was born in 1899 and lived on West Woodlawn Avenue. When he married he bought a house and we lived in the 900 block of East Woodlawn Avenue. My Grandmother's maiden name was O'Connell. The O'Connells also lived on West Woodlawn for many years after my Dad moved. We are tracing genealogy and would like information from any O'Connells who may visit this site. Also, would like to hear from anyone who may know the Carrolls from West Woodlawn Avenue.
Joe McCormick: I'm guessing... anything 'down' is 'toasted', and anything named 'Kelly' has to be Irish, so I'm guessing it's 'home fries', i.e., fried potatoes, or else some kind of bread toasted. What do I win???
John Payne,The Red Baron Of Florida- Anthony wrote about a killing at Wayne&Berkley which was your old neighborhood and it must have been painful for you read this post,considering the tragedy that hit your family on Wayne Ave. I think that I am correct that Wayne crosses Berkley and not Roberts. You are correct that Windrim is the dividing point between Nicetown and Germantown on the east side of Wayne. However, on the west side of Wayne Ave., Roberts is the dividing street. Your classmate from SFA,Dave Byrne,would know this answer since his father worked for Midvale Steel[Nicetown] which bordered Roberts. Across from Roberts was Fernhill Park where Dave Byrne and many of your SFA classmates played ball. John! Go Phillies and enjoy beautiful Florida during The Holiday Week-end.
Denise Duckworth Tumelty: As a former teacher and understanding the human condition and the faculties of people, you must be amazed at many of the posts. I was not a psychology major but it is beyond me why people would be upset with a lenghty post when they simply can scroll down. Can you imagine if they were teachers and had to mark papers. I noticed that your classmate,CMM, had made some comments about Bill Haas whom you also knew. I read on this site that he had been living down the shore. Possibly, you might be walking on the OC boardwalk and you might cross paths with a tall graying gentleman-Bill Haas. I spend a lot of time in Spring Lake and this week-end should be packed as the entire Jersey Shore will be. Denise! Keep posting and keep us informed about The Shore and any Germantowners that have located there.
Bruce Schmitt [06-30-2011]
I am continually amazed at the famous or at least well known names which were part of our neighborhood and how many people went to private schools. I was knocked out cold when I was hit by a line drive in a baseball game between GA & PC. No one told me not to sit there & what did I know? I woke up with both teams standing around me to see if I was OK - only time in my life I had 18 good looking athletes all looking at me at one time - probably thinking, "dumb girl!" Fortunately, no long term damage done - a funny memory & good story.
Denise Duckworth Tumelty [06-30-2011]
Del Conner: I connected to your blog about The Armory at Wissy&Hansberry and the story about the kids driving The Army Jeeps and failing to escape from the cops. Yes! My brother and I lived at Hansberry&Schuyler and he and I drove the jeeps at The Armory. I was fortunate that I was never apprehended by the cops for driving those jeeps without a license on US Govt. Property. I guess we thought like liberals in those days and got a free-lunch,no rent for the jeeps and free gas. It was a circus in that army motor-pool. The kids would scale the cyclone-fence on Sunday and before dark. It started out with a few kids driving the jeeps and then the word spread. Some of the kids had seniority and they would yell at the newcomers,"That's My Friggin Jeep". The problem developed with unskilled drivers driving at high speeds. Kids would bump into slow drivers in the rear just like they were at Willow Grove Park playing bumping cars. Your brother crashed into the wall. My brother's friend,Carl, turned a jeep over and hurt his leg badly. It also got out of control when the kids got bored and started up the tanks and the armor-vehicles. I know how your brother tried to escape when he scaled-down the rocks onto the tracks by The Queen Lane Station. My brother's name was Rick and we called him Fast Rick because he liked fast cars,boats and planes and I won't get into women but he could write a book and the first chapter would be entitled "Pre-Nuptial". I am convinced that his penchant for speed was inculcated at The Armory Driving School In G-town.I picked up that word from your neighbor,Jack McHugh. One day, I was giving an Eulogy and his kid brother,Joe, wants to know where I picked up those big words. After reading Jack McHugh's blogs, I could have told him from his older brother- I know there is no sibling rivalry. You talked about Bill Haas,the superior baseball player from Erringer Place- I took that word from this site and I did not call Anthony's blog superior and I was reprimanded by G-man-I hope he does not work for The IRS. I knew Bill Haas for a long time but I never really knew him. He was a very complex kid and he was one of the best hitters that I ever saw- he had a great swing. He should have made the big-show. He went to GA and should have had a scholarship to college like many Germantown athletes. I do know that he needed a mentor. He needed a mentor like Joe Coleman of The A's who lived in the 5200 block of Schuyler. I am not into schaden-freude and I would have hoped that he had done better in life. He knew a lot of people on this site. I think that he had good rapport with Bob Goo Guarinello of THe Hollow. I am in big trouble now since this blog is lenghty and I just mentioned Goo from The Hollow. Del! It's your fault since I responded to your blog.
J. Bruce Schmitt [06-30-2011]
Joe McCormick it should be no mystery as to why you or any of your crowd didn't play any basketball because baseball was the sport everyone played. I know I died when October came around and couldn't wait for April and baseball to start again, it really was Americas game back then. I am about nine years younger than you and baseball was my sport from the middle fifties until the middle sixties. Richard SFA '64, NC '68
Richard Pio, Born and bred in G-town 1950-95, now in Ocala area [06-30-2011]
Joe McCormick....Being Irish,you would have been right at home at the Hollow.Brogan,Lynch,Payne,Klock,McCauley,Fowler,etc.would have taught you the game of basketball.Who knows,you could have played with the Ireland national team?However,the Hollow bully,Bobby Goo,may have cut your career short.Ask Lou Giorno,who remembers the ugly side of Goo.Most of us,however,remember Goo as a Happy Hollow icon.Me thinks that he would have taken you under his wings and made you proud to be a part of Hollow Nation.Your kids would never get tired of hearing your Hollow stories and fun times,just like my kids.Meanwhile,stay tuned to this site for more great Happy Hollow stories....Paul Borian
Paul Borian, Que Sera Sera [06-30-2011]
Hi Linda Fontana, I would like to speak with you about the next Germantown reunion. Can you please send me your email address? Thanks, Naomi--East & West Germantowner
Naomi Vitelli [06-30-2011]
Having been introduced to major league baseball on Sunday, April 22, 1956 at Connie Mack Stadium, I couldn't agree more with Mr. McGlinchey. It truly is the worse place to watch a baseball game. I compare it to watching a game in a warehouse. In addition to all the negatives he stated, which are all true, because its a domed stadium, the noise level is at times is unbearable. What I found most unusual is The Ted Williams Museum and Hitters Hall of Fame, which is located in the building. Why Ted Williams. On the plus side, and there aren't many. I have been able to see all of the American League teams each year, something that can't be done in Philly. I have seen the Yankees and Red Sox, when they are in town. When the Yankees are playing, going to the game is like going to Yankee Stadium, as there are more Yankee fans then Rays fans. The "Trop" is just one small negative in living in the Tampa Bay area. Last weekend we went to the restored Tampa Theater, built in 1926 to see "The Godfather" on the big screen. It was an hassle free experience from beginning to end. After the movie we walked a couple of blocks to an great Italian Restaurant, and dined alfresco. It was quite an pleasurable experience to dine outside in downtown Tampa, much different then in Philly. No bus fumes, plenty of palm trees, and no unruly crowds to disturb us. The owner stopped by to ask how everything was, and in chatting with us, found out he originally was from the Northeast. Our dinner companions were from New York, so he knew he was "under the gun" with seasoned diners LOL. Happy to say his cuisine was more then adequate, not to mention the recommended bottle of wine. Nirvana? Perhaps. We like to think of it as Paradise.
John Fleming, Tampa Bay, Florida CD'62 [06-30-2011]
I have read, with interest,the postings regarding Tampa Bay and St. Armand's in Sarasota Florida. I am fortunate enough to own a home in the Bradenton/Sarasota area and am leaving on Friday to go there for a week. I bought the home about 6 years ago, ( at the housing market peak.....hey I didn't say I was smart ! ) ), and am now using it whenever I can get there. God willing, I will spend more time there when I retire in a few years. I am glad to learn there are other "Philly" people in the area. I will never give up being a Philly guy whop roots for thew eagles, Phillies, Flyers and Sixers.It is a great area and St. Armands is simply beautiful. I will spend most of my time next week at the Lido beach and Siesta Key ( voted one of the best beaches in the US )I'm sure it will be great living there....the sun actually shines all year round. But,my heart will always be in G Town and Philly. My parents had a summer home in N. Wildwood when I was a kid and I spent every summer there. It was when Wildwood was THE place to go. I have many great memories of my summers there, but the weather and beaches do not compare to the Gulf coast of Florida. Hey G'Towners, share some of your summer stories at Wildwood, OC, Sea Isle wherever. I am sure they are very interesting and humorous. Regards to all !
Bob D'Angelo [06-30-2011]
do you remember the guy that used to have horses and ponies in his back yard on seymour st and gave free rides to the neighborhood kids? What about getting under the fire hydrant in the summertime? those were the days!
gtn girl [06-30-2011]
Trivia Question - Some of the diners of our past had their grilles on the other side of the counter where you could sit and get a fast meal. The waitress would take our orders and then shout them out in a kind of shorthand to the cook behind her. What was being ordered if the Waitress said - "Kelleys, Down"?
Joe McCormick - East Germantown, CD 1959 [06-29-2011]
JBS - We had some characters that "hung out" on the corners of East Germantown but, I am forced to admit, nothing like the sheer number and quirkiness of those that seem to have populated "The Hollow" at one time or another. I have to confess to a sort of envy for not having known some of them or shared some of your experiences. Yes, I would have liked to have met the "Goo." We had an awesome park (Awbury - many stories here)) at Haines and Crittenden but no basketball courts. I don't remember anyone in our crowd who ever played basketball, including myself. I have eight sons who can"t comprehend that. I can't either, now. I am fascinated at the athletic ability of so many who blog here from that area. Some of us did go to the Germantown boys club on Penn Street for a while but we didn't play basketball or box - we just swam (nude as I remember.) We did learn to fight however, but we had to because we couldn't go home and tell our fathers that we got beat up. At any rate, I find you to be an interesting and fascinating individual. I wish I had known you "back in the day." God bless you and keep on posting.
anonymous, Joe McCormick - East Germantown, CD 1959 [06-29-2011]
JBS, dont you mean 4 superior bloggers since you responded to Anyhonyg also. I didnt know we were being rated by superior beings.
Del Connor: do a search at the top of this page on 'Bill Haas' and you will find many posts about him. And, yes, he was in the majors for a very short time. Like a comet, he flashed bright for a brief moment in time and then vanished. If you Google his name, you'll find many references to another Bill Haas, no relation, a pro golfer. Don't be confused by that.
Belfielders: I always enjoy reading about different playgrounds and Recs in G-town and Belfield was no exception. Back in the day, I knew Terry Collins who worked there. People like Joe Lynch,Frank Klock, and John Payne would remember him from The LaSalle Tournament when he and Matt Guokas played for St. Matt's against St. Francis. Paul Borian and Ted Silary probaly knew his father,Jocko Collins,Phillies scout and basketball ref. Jocko Collins signed Dell Ennis[Olney] and Jack Meyer,Penn Charter and The Daulton Gang. Terry Collins[Prep] and Joe Lynch[LaSalle] were All- Catholic and both athletes attended LaSalle College. Joe Lynch pursued his athletic career at LaSalle but Terry developed other interests. At times, Joe contributes some great blogs to this site.Recently, I talked with Terry's old friend,Matt Guokas. Rick Hite mentioned that he visits the old neighborhood near LaSalle. I was a ref at Belfield back in the 60's and it was difficult to control the players and the crowd. There was gang activity with The Sommerville Gang and they were gang-bangers-warring with Haines Street in Germantown and The Clang in North Philly. Urban warfare was and is a major problem in our society. I don't want to be cynical but I am glad that I have rounded 3rd-base- I want to be slacking and not packing.
John Bruce Schmitt [06-29-2011]
JBS> I always considered Nicetown to begin at Windrim, or at least Wayne Junction. Actually the space between Wayne Junction and Windrim was kind of a DMZ.
John Payne [06-29-2011]
To Billy Boy (and others): I remember that little Scottish Terrier sitting in that window. The dog's name was Fritz (or Fritzie). When I was 2 years old up until I was 6 I lived in the apartment directly above Al Bros. So did their relatives only they were on the other side above the restaurant next door to us. I forget the parents names but their last name was Brooks. Their little girl about the same age, maybe a bit older, her name was Barbara. She moved to Ambler Pa., just before we moved over to W. Hansberry. She was my first friend I always played with as a child. Sometimes I think whatever happened to Barbara Brooks on Germantown Ave. Anyone know?
Wayne Doneker, Now living in Red Lion, Pa. [06-29-2011]
I find this brouhaha concerning lengthy replies, or essays as they are sometime called. The way I look at it, these message boards/forums are just another form of communication and spreading the news, just like TV, radio newspapers etc. I am quite sure that no one reads a newspaper from cover to cover, nor watches every channel. People pick and choose what interests them. Speaking for myself, that's what I do. I read the first couple of lines of each post, and if it holds no interest for me, I move onto the next reply. Like publicity, there is no such thing as a bad reply.
John Fleming, Tampa Bay, Florida CD'62 [06-29-2011]
East Germantown is great. God is great. Gregg is great. His meatballs wus great. Long live the great chef of East Germantown.
Billyboy--I can't recall the barber shop---was BROTHERS a last name or did it mean siblings???
lou giorno, mr.g dos [06-29-2011]
All the recent talk about Tampa Bay City, who knew it was nirvana on earth? But, you can’t talk about the city without also mentioning Tropicana Field, home to the Rays baseball team. It surely is one for the “what were they thinking” file. It is just the ugliest stadium in baseball, inside and out. A domed stadium with a slanted roof, it looks like a partially deflated doughnut. With the play-hindering catwalks, a warehouse feel, a fish tank in centerfield, bullpens in the playing field, among many other oddities and quirks. Fortunately, there are no others like it in baseball. Tampa Bayans even hate it. The Rays are a winning team with the lowest attendance in all of baseball.
Dennis McGlinchey, Born & raised in East Germantown [06-29-2011]
Mr. G: According to the 1950 telephone directory, Manheim Seafood Company is listed as 5019 Germantown Av and Albert Brothers' Restaurant at 5025.
Hey, Del & Bruce keep writing. I love reading what you have to say even though I do not know most of the people you mention. Once in a while, there is something which rings a bell. I also appreciate your signing your name. I wish everyone did.
Denise Duckworth Tumelty [06-28-2011]
Lou G: I remember Al Brothers fish store. Friday nights, 2 deviled clams (huge)for 25 cents. Unbelievable. Just take them home and bake them. Even for those days (60's), that was a ridiculously cheap price.
John Payne, Just because it's fishy doesn't mean it isn't true. [06-28-2011]
Bruce and Del who Idon't know. Did you ever notice that those who criticize alway sign anonymous. Bruce, without you I would not have known that Dave Heil, and Harry Brown, Both Manheim and Wissahickon corner hangers had passed away. Keep up the good work. Duncan Hubley.
Duncan Hubley, McKean Avenue 71. [06-28-2011]
Rosemarie Hite-Malageri- I would like to speak with you about the Germantown reunion in December. I would appreciate it very much if you would send your email address. Thanks, Naomi
Naomi Vitelli [06-28-2011]
Anthony: The problem is not that my posts are too long but you don't post enough- your last post was so great and exciting. You talked about a shooting in West Germantown at Wayne&Roberts which indicates to me that you are not familiar with that neighborhood just below The Hollow. Some of the bloggers who lived there,will tell you that Wayne Ave. does not connect with Roberts Ave. There was a bar located at Wayne&Berkley which is not far from Roberts Ave. which was the dividing line between Germantown&Nicetown. The bar at Wayne&Berkley was called Herb's and it had a pool-table. Tom Cueball Cusack hung there when he was a young clean-cut college student. His cousin[Higgins] was a bartender and he carded him and he passed the test although he was not a senior in college. It is ironic that Cueball was not a good shooter and he had a rep for dancing and bowling- I do know how to spell. Many shooters think they are tough and can be cocky after a few brews. I had a friend by the name of Bill West who was shooting pool one evening at Herb's and his opponent was using language that was filthy. He asked the dude to watch his language since the waitress was offended. The dude attacked Bill with a cuestick and Bill was forced to drop him. Bars can be dangerous when heavy drinking takes place, and CMM from Australia just mentioned a violent crime that took place just up the road a piece from Herb's on Wayne Ave. Mike Garvey,Local 30 was in a bar on The Boulevard when it was held up by a dude.The roofers pulled their own weapons and sent the punk out in the freezing cold-bare-ass naked. Anthony! Where did you hang out in East Germantown-The Chew Bar,The Proper Place or The Germantown Tavern? I hung out at The Continental which Del Conner mentioned in his last post- I also like to read Del's posts. You should stop in The Continental and hang out with the boys-Wissy&Hansberry. Anthony! Posts are good whether they are long or short but I recommend good thoughts over bad thoughts.
John Bruce Schmitt, any relationship to Billy Schmitt who lived on Schuyler Street? He, with Bobby Moore and my brother David would also get into the Armory on Wissahickon Avenue across from the Continental. They would move turrets of the tanks with a hand crank and drive the jeeps. One year while we were waiting to begin David’s birthday party, with all of the guest there, we couldn’t find David. My parents then got a call from the police saying they had David, Bobby and Billy at the station after picking them up. They had been chased driving a jeep in the Armory by police. They had crashed the jeep into a low wall and fled down the railroad embankment below the Queen Lane Station where they were caught. Dad went to get David and Mom sent all the kids home. Not a good birthday for David. He missed his own party.
Del Conner [06-28-2011]
John Bruce Schmitt, I remember Bill Haas. His dad would work out with him on his pitching in the driveway across from my house on Erringer Place. We thought he would be in the major league. Do you know if he ever made it?
Del Conner [06-28-2011]
Dear Webmaster, perhaps if we could have paragraphs that I, and no doubt others, use in composing our long post, it would help people scan them to find things of interest.
Del Conner [06-28-2011]
Saw on TV the sad news last night of a shooting of six people at a bar in Germantown at Robert’s and Wayne Avenue. This is where Robert’s Avenue and Berkeley Street come together at Wayne. When I was a kid my father, a train and trolley fan, would come home from work at the Budd plant and we would often drive and park on a rock outcrop on Robert’s Avenue overlooking the Reading Railroad yards of Wayne Junction and the Midvale Plant. This was just above the Vick’s water tower. Before the Roosevelt Boulevard extension bridge over the yard the scale of the place was different and that overlook seemed much higher than it does today. There were a couple of very old boxcars sitting on a siding to the far right that always caught my attention being so old. After our watching trains we would often go to that bar on the corner at Wayne Avenue. Dad would get a beer and I’d play the long shuffleboard table in that bar. My first girlfriend, Pat Giggleardie, (sp?) lived a few doors up from the bar. Her family had a summerhouse at Ship Bottom on Long Beach Island, but that’s another story.
Del Conner [06-28-2011]
Gregg - thanks for your comments regarding certain long and winding essays. I swear the facts in some posts must be researched for days because no human being (unless they keep a diary) could recall so people and then recite the actual personal histories of these people. LOL. Lou - I remember AL Brothers - great seafood and clam chowder. It was near the Dog House and not far from the New Lyric Theatre.
Bob Eastside [06-28-2011]
Linda F.& Anonymous: In all due respect, I regret that you disapprove of lenthy posts on this great Web-site. In recent posts, I have responded to 3 of the superior and interesting bloggers on this site-Duncan Hubley,Ted Silary, and John Fleming. On this site, we have both superior athletes and bloggers. Duncan Hubley fits both categories. I knew Duncan from Fernhill where he was a superior athlete and an outstanding soccer-player for GA in The Inter-Ac League. In the following years, he was a legendary coach for GA and Penn and respected and admired by his players. We both contributed posts about the character and goodness of Dave Heil who was one of the nicest guys in Germantown. Personally, I still have pain when I think about the loss of Dave-he was a great guy. Duncan and I also submitted posts about great Germantown athletes when Ted Silary of The Daily News, requested information for his particular project. We are fortunate to have Ted Silary as a blogger with his vast encyclopedic knowledge of sports and especially high-school athletics. In my youth, I and many Hollow People read the Daily News- daily and pardon the pun. Paul Borian was addicted to baseball and The Phillies and I will mention Goo Guarinello who liked The A's and The Sport of Kings[horses] which also intrigued me. Lou Pauzano of The Hollow and I went to The Prep with Matt McCloskey whose grand-father owned The Daily News. Mr. McCloskey sold The Daily News to The Annenberg Family who owned The Racing Form which was great for handicapping the ponies and which I found invaluable. I also responded to posts from John Fleming who did the stats for CD Basketball and frequented great hot-spots in Jersey and Florida where cool people hung out. His great posts about the culture of Florida really resonates with me since it is so beneficial to Germantowners who live and play in Florida. Linda! John talked about St. Armand's Circle in Sarasota and women just love that spot but one must bring their credit-card. I say,"God Bless Germantowners and Bloggers", no matter their neighborhood,age,gender, and myriad interests and take on issues if it is civil,fair, and objective.
Lou - yes I remember Al Brothers seafood - they had great fried flounder. For some reason I also remember they always had a little Scotish Terrier that used to sit in their store front window. Do you also remember Eddie's barber shop between Garfield and Wister ?
BillyBoy - Eastsider [06-28-2011]
I can hear certain music and be trasported to the DANCE at St. Francis--first ''real'' romances! WOW! nice to remember.
vera carey canavan, St. Vincent's 1956--Little Flower 1960 [06-28-2011]
My man Bommie. Now thats a good story. Right Gregg? How about a bunk story Ed.
Hi Joanne, Yes, i remember those fire hydrant days ...good fun for sure and one of the few ways we kids could cool off ... Rosemarie
rosemarie hite malageri [06-27-2011]
Does anyone remember a seafood restaurant--AL BROTHERS--it was located on the East side of GTN. Ave.between Wister & Seymour sts.???? Lou Giorno
lou giorno, Mr G DOS [06-27-2011]
Del Conner and Bruce Schmitt, nothing personal, but gregg is right. You two are writing essays and taking up the page.
The Ladder 8 firehouse was located at the SEC of Germantown Av. & Bringhurst St. and Engine 19 was at Chelten Av. & Kenyon St., they both closed in the late 50's and combined at a new station located at Chelten & Baynton St.
Retired Firefighter, poi [06-27-2011]
Way to tell it Greg. Too many long posts. That is why I haven't been on lately. Just came on to comment about the shooting early this morning at Wayne and Roberts. The newscaster reported it was Germantown. I thought that area was Nicetown. No matter what, so sad. One man was killed and many wounded. He fired into a bar because he was booted out.
I have found it interesting that many facts about Germantown have been inculcated with a subtleness that we never noticed. For the last few years my mother has lived in a small town in western Penna., the first time I went there I saw that US highway 422 comes into town, when I saw the sign, rapidly without thinking I said that’s Wayne Ave. now, when we were small nobody called it US 422, but see that is one of those mentally kept pictures we have in our brain.
Jack McHugh [06-27-2011]
Jack Brogan,sounds like TALKIN WORLD WAR 111 BLUES
Mitch Henigan [06-27-2011]
Joe Leone is correct. There was fire house on the south/east corner of Germantown at Bringhurst. When the fire house was closed down by the city of Philadelphia. The property was sold and the old firehouse became a Beer Distributor.
ORVILLE T. BALLARD, sfa 1956, nechs 1960 [06-27-2011]
I have my wife to thank for bringing me to the Tampa Bay area. We knew when I retired, we were going to move to Florida. She was still going to work, for health benefits,until I was able to go on Medicare. To cut to the chase, she was able to transfer to the Tampa Bay area. I thoroughly enjoyed and embraced my living in the Philly area, and took advantage of all it had to offer, but it was time to move on. Previous to moving here, my experience in Florida was limited to the Miami Beach area, where my parents had a home, and of course Orlando. Most transplants here in Tampa, are from Michigan and Wisconsin. Legend has it, that they come down I-75 to Florida, while folks in the Northeast, Philly, New York etc. come down I-95. Some of us take I-10 to I-75. There is still an ample amount of Philly people in the area. There are a couple of bars that cater to Eagles fans during the football season and show the Eagles games on all their TV's, to a overflowing group of Philly transplants. I have met a few guys that also attended CD, including one that was in the same sophomore section as myself.
John Fleming, Tampa Bay, Florida CD'62 [06-27-2011]
Hey Ed, I'm from W Clapier and I also knew Tony T, his sister Marie and I think his brother's name was John. There were some endless party's up there on Musgrave.
Joe DePero, 54, levittown, st mikes 70. [06-27-2011]
I just listened to a program on the radio about a woman in Toronto who, 30 years after her father was murdered, received an email from the murderer, apologising. They later met and reconciled. I am posting the link here (http://www.abc.net.au/rn/360/stories/2011/3242397.htm) in case any of you who can relate to such a story, as I can, may be interested in listening and asking yourself, as the producers have, is that acceptable and/or is it enough. I lodged a comment on the site as follows: "Like Margo, my father was brutally murdered. It happened 37 years ago. His murderer was never arrested or charged. I don't know exactly what happened except that my father was a bartender in a neighborhood tavern in Philadelphia USA. It is likely that he was closing and someone came in wanting a drink; when my father said the bar was closed, he was hit over the head with such force that when he was taken to hospital, they thought he'd been shot. His brain stem was severely damaged and he never regained consciousness. He lingered for a month before finally be 'allowed' to die. I didn't know they were pulling back life support, so I wasn't there when he died. He was beloved, never hurt a soul and his death was a terrible tragedy. Recently, I asked the Philadelphia Police Commissioner for information and he assigned a detective to investigate. However, the file could not be found. All he was able to do is to find out that the man who reported finding my father, who was either the murderer or a Good Samaritan, is now dead. With no file and no witness, there is nothing more that can be done. I can relate very well to Margo's story and I think it is a good thing that the murderer of her father has apologised and they have been able to achieve some peace. However, I think that getting an email would not be the way it should be done; would be better to have an intermediary, such as a social worker or a priest to make the initial contact. That said, I just wish I had been given the same opportunity, instead of going on for the rest of my life not knowing."
Del Connor: You lived in a great Germnatown neighborhood betwween Fernhill Park and The Germnatown Cricket Club. You discussed The Tilden Mansion on Mckean Avenue and The Clark Mansion on Wissahickon Ave. The Clark Mansion's Garage was next to The Continental and that was a former mansion. There were so many beautiful old homes in Germantown. Many of the neighborhood kids played ball and drank beer in the fields bordering the Clark Estate. Your neighbor,Bill Haas, from Erringer Place, also played a lot of ball there. I liked your story and how you and your boys jumped the high walls on Hansberry St. and were not caught by the cops. I and some of the neighborhood kids practiced driving the jeeps at The Armory on Wissahickon Ave. which was across the street from The Continental. We became excellent drivers before we had our driver's license. Obviously, a lot of interesting stuff hapened near the corner of Wissy&Hansberry and I won't get into life at The Continental back in the day.
John Bruce Schmitt [06-27-2011]
In the very late 60s and early 70s I spent a large part of my teen years hanging out with friends on East Woodlawn Street, just behind Chelten Ave. This is an area of Gtown that does not get much discussion on this blog. I use to walk (often at night) from Haines to Musgrave, under the tracks, past Waterview Park, then on to Chelten Ave. I would then jump the fence behind the Gas Station on to E Woodlawn’s alley, up the steps to my best friend Tony’s house. To this day there is still a bend in the fence where years of hopping and climbing are evident. In the corner of the alley was the famous “Cave”. The Cave itself was nothing more than a small area under a rear deck in the corner of the alley. It was a place where the locals would meet, socialize, and hang out. Now many of you Hollow and other Gtown folk may not have heard of the “Cave” but a lot of people, to include those in surrounding counties frequented the Cave often. This included the local Police from the great 14th District who would drop by to say hello. There are many stories about the Cave, but one in particular is worth mentioning. Tony T and I use to play instruments in his basement adjacent to the alley and Cave. It was mostly myself on the Drums and Tony T on electric guitar. Sometimes other people would sit in and play along. Now it is debatable whether we were any good but most did not complain especially after a few hours of partying. A good friend even honored?? us by naming us “Tony T and the Sweethearts.” In the corner of the alley next to the Cave was a dimly lit lamp post. One you would find in any Gtown alley. Since we burned a lot of electric juice with our instruments Tony and I had this great idea to siphon electricity from the alley lamp post. We immediately went to work running an extension cord out of the garage, climbing the pole, and installing a receptacle and cord behind the bulb. The idea worked. When Tony jammed on the guitar the light would flicker and dim with every lick he played. This spawned another great idea. We removed the white light and replaced it with a black light. Now you had a pulsating black light going to the sound of the music. This added another dimension to our so called alley rock, however it was not well received by some elder neighbors who reported us to the electric company and shut us down. Our Rock Star fame was short lived, but I for one will never forget those good times at the Cave in Gtown.
Ed (Bommie) Farrar, va [06-24-2011]
John Fleming: You were a Germantowner but now you are a member of The Floridian Culturati. You are so informed about the cultural life of Florida- Tampa Bay,Ft. Lauderdale and Sarasota which is a magnificent part of Florida. The Ringling Family contributed so much to the development and culture of Sarasota. In my opinion, St. Armands Circle is one of the great spots in America to dine and feel the breeze and look at the Gulf with a foxy lady who just cam from The Shop-"The Foxy Lady" and grooved to Hendrix-I know you get it. Recently, I was talking to Matt Guokas, who lives in Orlando,and it is amazing how many Germantowners and Philly people live in Florida. The Senator of Florida,Connie Mack,has a Philly and Germantown connection. Connie Mack, his grand-father and the famous A's coach, lived in Germantown near Wayne&Lincoln Drive. Connie Mack would always wave to The Park Guard when he passed that corner. He was the oldest manager in baseball and he wore a suit in the dugout-he was a gentleman. Lou Pauzano,from The Hollow and I knew his grand-son from The Prep-Jim Nolen. The Nolen Family owned the Coal&Fuel Co. at Penn&Belfield. Jim Nolen also knew Biff Halloran from Norwood. I had some conversation with some street-smart people about Biff Halloran and one guy thought The Biffer is in a witness-protection program. We can only hope The Jay Gatsby of Germantown is breathing the breezy breeze of St. Armands Circle and is only talking to the statues now.
John Bruce Schmitt [06-24-2011]
Herb Adderly started at Germantown High School. The story of why he moved to Northeast High School is one that Paul Borian should tell. He told me and I never forgot it.
Jack Brogan, It was Rockaday Johnny sayin' tell your ma', tell your pa, our love'g gonna' grow, wa, wa. [06-24-2011]
Does anybody remember in the summer when somebody turned on the fire hydrants on those real hot days on Heiskell St. The cops would come and trurn them off and as soon as they left some good soul would come out and turn it back on. Just another good memory of growing up in Germantown.
joanne posimo [06-24-2011]
The fire house was at the corner of Bringhurst St. and Germantown Avenue. After it closed it became a beer distributor (? 1966?)
Arlene (Bloomer) McMahon [06-24-2011]
my most prominent belfield RC memory . . . chain nets on baskets INSIDE the gym. what was the deal with THAT??! ha ha
Ted Silary [06-24-2011]
Does anyone know the whereabouts of a Carmen DeSanto who lived on Topehockan Street. He was a musician and great guitar player from Gtown.
Ed Farrar, Chester, VA [06-24-2011]
Linda, You and the ladies from CA have good posts. We need more posts from you and Greg. Great minds think the same way.
Del Connor - I really enjoyed reading your memories. A good example of where the post wasn't directed to a few, where you didn't have to live the experience, or know the characters involved, to enjoy. Thanks for that, and for sharing those memories...
Dennis McGlinchey, Born & raised in East Germantown [06-24-2011]
Lou, I remember one at GTN AVE & Bringhurst st.
Joe Leone [06-24-2011]
I remember a fire co.on GTN AVE near WISTER ST -I could be wrong--please clear this up.Lou Giorno
lou giorno, Mr g dos [06-23-2011]
Hi George,hope you are fine it's been many many years since I last seen you,how is fast Eddie doing I hope fine,well take care,Sandy,Cowtown
A lot of kids from the west side of Germantown would play in what we called “The New Old Lot” after two previous empty lots we had played in were developed. It was an old estate with a mansion that had burnt adjacent to and behind the American Legion on Wissahickon Avenue and Hansbury Street. The story I remember is that it was going to be a summer camp but that the treasurer had taken the money and run off to South America. It had a small old swimming pool that was filled with stagnate water near the mansion, and a very big “L” shaped pool with a deep end for diving that was never finished right behind the American Legion Club. We used the second floor of the garage next to the big pool as a clubhouse and would also explore the burnt shell of the house. We would climb to the third floor of the mansion on the winding central staircase that near the top was burnt leaving just stumps against the wall. You had to hug the wall and not look down to get to the top floor. Did some early necking up there with neighbor Pinky McDermott one summer day. That led to a discussion later that day sitting on the steps of a side door to the old mansion about how babies are made. I recall us talking about different kids parents and commenting on which might still be doing the nasty even after they had had their children. Our conclusion was that not many of our parents were still doing that. One funny incident around that big pool involved my best friend Bob Moore. Being so big and deep the pool never filled up with rainwater or melted snow but the bottom was fully covered with water. One day we built a raft that brave Bob Moore volunteered to ride around the pool on. We cut down some tall catalpa weed trees that grew along the fence with the Germantown Cricket Club. They were soft, straight, easy to cut and light weight. Bob had one to use as a pole to push the raft but the rest of us with those long poles pushed him around from the sides of the pool. As Bob was in one of the deep areas all of a sudden a police car came roaring up the driveway from Wissahickon Avenue with a PA system and the cops yelling “stop right there”. We all dropped the poles and ran towards the Cricket Club. Looking back we could see Bob jump off the raft into green mucky water up to his waist and yelling, “wait for me”! We didn’t. Near the Cricket Club we jumped down from the high wall of the lot to Hansbury Street below. We then ran up Morris Street, crossed Manheim Street to hide in the basement doorway of the house adjacent to the alleyway that ran from Erringer Place to McKean Street. We were sure there were police cars roaming the streets looking for us. When we finally went home there was Bob sitting on his front steps, in clean cloths eating a Popsicle. The police had taken him home and his mother seeing how upset he was got him cleaned up and gave him a treat. Bob forgave us our cowardice and my parents, or those of the other fugitives with me, never knew of our close encounter with the police.
Del Conner [06-23-2011]
I tend to agree with Gregg Striano's comments....no offense intended towards anyone, though.. L A F
Jane Holt Rauscher: Good to see you still post here once in awhile..Last time I saw John was at the Valley Forge Mil.Acad. After that, I believe he was in the service, maybe overseas..last I heard...sorry that you still have not connected with him....Respectfully, Linda "F".
Duncan Hubley: There have been excellent posts about your old neighborhood near McKean Ave. and the guys that you knew from Fernhill Park. It is so sad that many of The Fernhillers have passed away-Dave Heil,Charlie Solly,Harry Brown,John Kohlmeier,Harold Kelly,Bob Schaefer,and Jim Katcavage. You knew many great athletes from GA and Fernhill but you did not know Herb Adderly who graduated from Northeast[10th&Lehigh] the same year that you graduated from GA. There was confusion where Herb Adderly lived. He grew up in Pulaski-town and lived on Alfred St. between Penn and Coulter. In good weather, you walked home GA and you walked through Pulaski-town and not far from Herb's house. You were correct that Herb later lived in the 5200 block of Wissahickon and not far from Dick Clark who graduated from GA with you in 1957 and he was always doing scientific experiments. You also played basketball with your corner-boys from Manheim U at The Armory on Wissahickon Ave. which was across the street. One of your friends from Manheim U was Dave Heil and he was a great guy. You and he were gentlemen and Ted Silary also thought that you were a classy guy-you always spoke well. I gather that you will be visiting Maine and stopping at Jack Brogan's Place and discussing our beloved Germantown. Duncan! Enjoy the summer and especially beautiful Maine and save your swimning for The Jersey Shore if you know what I mean.
Bruce Schmitt [06-23-2011]
growing up in the late 50's thru 1970 Belfield Rec ctr 21st and Chew was the place for sports Home to Baker league Industrial league basketball, Men and women softball leagues fast pitch and numerous recreation leagues tumbling,ping pong, baseball,basketball,track, you name it and we did it. Our favorite rivalry was with East Gtn (now Lonnie Young ) playground also a Summersville playground, any questions about this area I can probably help. I really enjoyed growing up there I still visit the area often.
Rick Hite, East Germantown/Summersville raised 1950thru1990 [06-23-2011]
Mike Deely Ship Bottom NJ,1957 apx please send email address,I am also interested in address for FR John in Japan LARRY
Larry Konzelman, Clifton NJ 69 [06-23-2011]
The Ringling Museum is a "must see" when in the Sarasota/Tampa Bay area. I have spent a few relaxing afternoons, walking the grounds of the museum. Besides the Ringling museum the Ca' d'Zan Mansion, there is the Circus Museum’s Tibbals Learning Center with the world's largest miniature circus, The Howard Bros. Circus Model. The model is a replica of Ringling Bros. and Barnum & Bailey Circus from 1919 1938. It was created over a period of more than 50-years by master model builder and philanthropist Howard Tibbals. I found the "Circus Museum" interesting, with its displays of Circus artifacts of the past, and easily recognized by us old enough to remember seeing the circus under the "Big Top". We usually end the day with dinner at St. Armands Circle. I first visited the Ivystone Inn, when my parents took the family after my graduation from CD. In later years, when they built the high rise hotel, I spent many nights having dinner at the top, which was called "The Empire Room". It had quite a nice view of Philadelphia, especially at night.
John Fleming, Tampa Bay, Florida CD'62 [06-23-2011]
Linda Lalli, I talk to Gene and Bob Boyle on occasion.Hopefully all 3 of us and our better halves can get together in the not to distant future. Hope all is well with you and your family.
Rich Patrizi [06-22-2011]
Gregory, Jump in any time with some new life! :>) Rosemarie
rosemarie hite malageri [06-22-2011]
did hank lawler have a younger sister ? i seem to remember she was a lot younger then him . boy he was some kind of foot ball player . a power full back that was hard to bring down when he was at full steam . frank .
frank margiotti, lansdale [06-22-2011]
Gregg Striano; hi gregg I don't know if you remenber me. Last time I saw you was at a affair for my sister Donna and Danny Diciacco's kids. At that time you going to france for classes to be a Chef.Well my son's girlfriend son grad. from H.S. and is persuing that career.I told him I talk to you and maybe you can him some advice in that field. Hope everything is fine with you,take care.GG
george greene, retired in gilbertsville pa [06-22-2011]
To JBS, Duncan and Tom, and anyone else who might respond: thanks for the help with the childhood addresses of Gtn-area guys. Much appreciated. The Kellys' place on Haines was right next to the one Chubby Checker bought (or maybe one bought it from the other? memory is a little fuzzy on that). Duncan, doubt you remember this, but I covered a couple of your GA team's games early in my career. You were always the height of class! The lists I'm working on, and a whole bunch of other historical info on Philly high school sports, can be found here: http://tedsilary.com/insidelinkspage.htm. Best wishes to all.
Ted Silary [06-22-2011]
Awhile back, someone asked for memories from some of the other recreation centers in Germantown, other than Happy Hollow. These are some of my memories from Waterview Rec: --Tommy Holian breaking his leg while making a tackle for Immaculate and the terrible snapping sound it made that was loud enough to be heard from the sidelines (circa 1956). --Big Joe Procopio hitting moon shots over the iron fence in left field and onto the railroad property. (circa '56) --Watching night football games under the lights when they used a neon yellow football. --Charles "Brother" Prozillo dominating on both sides of the line of scrimmage when he played football for Holy Rosary. (circa '58) --Mack Gundy skirting around end in a blur to score another TD for St. Vinnie's.(circa '58) --Norman Lackman gunning down opposing runners trying to take a little extra when he played LF for Waterview with that rifle arm of his. (circa '60 - '62) --Bill Hartman gobbling up everything in sight from his SS position playing for Waterview Rec. (circa '60) --Andrew "Bo" Bommentre getting beaned by a fly ball while innocently walking across the outfield and, after, coming to - asking: "...What happened to my quarter? Whose got my quarter...?" Waterview was the sports mecca for the Chew & Chelten crowd.
Andy Anderson, Longwood, FL USA - IC '58 CD '62 [06-22-2011]
John Fleming: You are a very eclectic person, having stopped at many ports in the navy, chilled out at various hotels and bistros on the east-coast, and you have frequented museums including The Henry Plant Museum in Tampa Bay. Henry Plant's bust can be seen at The Met in NYC. The Germantown Spirit permeates a myriad of venues. I appreciate your great post about Tampa Bay since many Germantowns go to Clearwater to watch the Phillies and fly to Tampa Bay. Another interesting museum is in Sarasota-The Ringling Museum with a very broad collection. I have an interest in sculpture and some decent pieces reside there-John The Baptist. We talked about Biff Halloran and he did own The Ivystone Inn in Pennsauken which you visited and mentioned in a previous post. Biff Halloran lived near Wayne&Lincoln Drive and up the hill at Wayne& Johnson was the McIlhenney Mansion. Henry McIlhinney,one of the greatest art-collectors in the world grew up and lived there. He had some of the greatest works of Renoir,The Impressionist. I am sure there must be information at The Germantown Historical Society about Henry McIlhenney and his Famous Family. Henry McIlhenney moved to a magnificent house on the 1900 block of Rittenhouse Square where his extraordianry art-collection resided. Many of the great Renoirs at PAM[our great museum] belonged to Henry Mc. The world is so small and this mansion was sold to Henry[Hank] McNeil who frequented The Jarrettown Hotel which was owned by my family.Hank McNeil was also a great art-collector and Gallery-owner in Philly and NYC. Hank had pedigree-dogs and we liked to wager on horses. Hank knew one of the biggest sports-accountants in Philly and there was a Germantown connection but I am not going there. I am happy that some bloggers only dislike my posts and only want to whack me mentally. John! Most Germantowners are open-minded and there should be a place for art and culture on this site. Google Joe Brown!He was a sculptor and a pugilist.
John Bruce Schmitt [06-22-2011]
I believe Herb Adderly lived on Bringhurst St. I say this because I met the people who now live in the house he lived in.
Correction: I think the last name of my friend that live in the Tilden Manor Carriage House was Carney. She was an extra in the movie Witness. At the begging of the movie she is sitting next to the little boy before he goes into the restroom at 30th Street Station.
Del Conner [06-22-2011]
I have many memories of tennis star Bill Tilden’s house on McKean Street. We knew it as Tilden Manor, but he called it Overleaf. As kids from Erringer Place and Schyler Street we would cut through the middle of the block of McKean Street by way of the gravel drive way of Tilden Manor and the walkway along side of the carriage house. This let us out not far from where Seymour Street ended at Morris Street. We would have to be careful not to drag our feet through the pebbles and make noise or the owner of the house, then an apartment building, would yell at us and make us go all the way around the block. Later this would be part of my Bulletin paper route. I would also mow the lawn using a gas powered rotary mower, and paint apartments in the house and the second floor apartment of the carriage house. With three jobs as a kid, and no athlete, I don’t have the stories to tell of Happy Hallow or Fern Hill park teams. One memory I have of the carriage house of Tilden Manor was walking to Fitler one rainy morning and seeing a young couple sitting at their warmly lit breakfast table by the widow overlooking the driveway. I still remember wishing I was that young man in that cozy love nest rather than walking to another morning of grade school. Years later, in the seventies, I had a friend that lived in that apartment and she, Carrie, would have great parties. Leaving a party there one night I noticed that the wall that ran along the alleyway from Erringer Place to McKean was falling down. As kids we would carefully walk the rounded granite cap of that wall which at some places was only a few feet tall but then would rise to about seven feet tall. Seeing two of those caps on the ground I grabbed two and still have them today. That wall was part of the old Steele mansion that once stood on the empty lot that we played in and knew as “The Old Lot”. Later when the adjacent Kern Dodge mansion was abandoned that would become “The New Lot”. Later both lots were developed as apartment buildings whose apartments I would eventually paint every time someone move out. But before that, the property adjacent the American Legion Post on Wissahickon Avenue was abandoned that became our “New Old Lot” to play in. I’ll post some funny stories about all of these lots in the future to broaden this site for those who were not athletes.
Del Conner, could not hit or through a ball [06-22-2011]
I lived on McCallum Street between Tulpehocken and Walnut Lane; I would enjoy hearing from anyone who knows that area (either currently, or from the past). We lived there between 1960 and 1976.
Gillian Andersen, Portales NM [06-21-2011]
To my brother John, Happy Birthday! Love always and many very fond memories. I wish I knew for sure where and how you are.
Jane Holt Rauscher, SFA 60, LF 64, Bell, Florida [06-21-2011]
Ted Silary Iknew Harold(Baseball) and Leroy Kelly quite well. They lived on Deacon Street off Wissahickon Avenue. Herb Adderly who I did not know i believe lived on Wister Street,and the moved to the 5200 block of Wissahickon Avenue just south of Queen Lane. Jim Katcavetch(sp.) lived in what we called the Plotnick apartments on Manheim street for a time after his football career.
Duncan Hubley, McKean Avenue 71 [06-21-2011]
Lived on Abbottsford Rd. Anyone from there ?
Linda (Lalli), Salem, OR [06-21-2011]
This site needs some new life same people all the time same long comments .
Gregg Striano [06-21-2011]
Steve,thanks for answering me back,I do recall Ken too,so sorry for your loss,does Billy Brown ring a bell too you,he lived on Stafford St. too going back in the late 1950's take care Sandy
The Kelly brothers lived on Deacon St. right off Wissahickon Ave. across from Fernhill Park.
Friend of a Friend [06-21-2011]
Jim (Hank) Lawlor passed away about 5 years ago from a stroke, he lived in Sea Isle City.
His Cousin [06-21-2011]
Responding to Ted Silary's request for address info ... I played basketball and baseball with LeRoy and Harold Kelly at Fernhill Park ... both were really nice guys and excellent athletes ... at that time they lived on Deacon Street right off of Wissahickon Avenue ... when they signed with their professional teams, I heard they bought their mother a nice house on Haines Street, right off Chew .. a very nice neighborhood .. and a wonderful gift for their mother.
Tom Cusack [06-21-2011]
Ted Silary: You are doing work on some great athletes-Bob Schaefer,Jim Katcavage,Harold[Pat] and Leroy Kelly,and Herb Adderly. Bob Schaefer and Jim Katcavage technically lived in Abbottsford Homes at Fox and Abbottsford Ave. and Duncan Hubley did not consider them Fernhillers since they only played basketball there. Leroy and Pat Kelly lived on Deacon Street near Wissahickon and Roberts and both of them played a lot of basketball and baseball at Fernhill Park. Duncan Hubley,Joe Lynch,and I played a lot of basketball at Fernhill with Harold and Leroy. We all got along with The Kelly Brothers but Leroy and Bill Haas[GA] did not like each-other and problems would develop. Herb Adderly and his brother,Charles, lived on Alfred St. in Pulaski-town not far from Penn&Pulaski. Herb Adderly moved to the 5200 block on Wisahickon Ave. when he started to play for The Green Bay Packers. He looked at my home on the 500 block of Hansberry St. where Bill Tilden,the great tennis player, also lived. Duncan Hubley lived on the 5000 block of Mckean Ave. and Bill Tilden grew up on that block in a very beautiful home. Germantown was such a beautiful place with so many great people and athletes and I get sad when I see my former beautiful Germantown neighborhood. Good luck with your project-you are truly a sports-historian.
John Bruce Schmitt [06-21-2011]
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