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March 20-31, 2011

How about some old Bulletin Boys posting memories of their routes, customers and the Branch at Tacoma and Seymore Streets? I started a few weeks before my twelfth birthday as a Bulletin Boy. Before that I would sometimes help my brother Al with his first route on Ashmead Street between Green and Germantown. We lived on Erringer Place near the Cricket Club, so that was quite a hike. His next route was our street. That route included the Manheim Garden Apartments and the new Congress Hall Apartments. It was one of the biggest routes that worked out of the branch on Tacoma. My route was next to Al's and covered Morris and McKean Streets between Manheim and Abbotsford. I loved that route and could still deliver it today with my eyes closed. When Alan left to work at the Drug Store on Queen's Lane near St. Catherine's, I took over his route on Erringer Place. I served the Bulletin all through high school. Also mowed lawns, and painted apartments. The Branch was a great place to hang out. Early Sunday mornings there would be guys lying asleep on top of bundles of papers sitting on the "folding tables". Saturday morning was when you paid you bill before delivering the Sunday magazine and funnies. You would be back at 3:15 for the afternoon paper delivery. Twice in one day! You would collect on Friday night. I think it was fifty-five cents for the daily and Sunday Bulletin. We also sold insurance and other magazines that I think were mailed to the customers. We did a lot of walking living at that far end of Germantown. Richard Pio and a few others kids lived even further than I from St. Francis. By the time we got home for lunch we had maybe ten minuets to eat and get back on the way to school. After school we walked home, got changed and walked back to the branch. Then with our bundles of papers walk to our routes and deliver the papers. Of course on Friday, you had to walk our route again in the evening to "collect". It certainly kept us in shape. My classmate (Murphy?), one of twelve, who lived on Pulaski had the Route on Manheim that covered the Manheim Garden Apartments on the Cricket Club side of the street. We would often walk together and help deliver each other's route. He had a blast. His older brother like mine had had his route before him. He passed it on to other brothers so the same families served that route for something like fifteen years. Tradition.
Del Conner, 60, now in Society Hill [03-31-2011]

Just read about the recent annual Krispy Kreme Challenge in Raleigh,N.C. The rules are simple and stomach-churning:run for two miles,eat a dozen Krispy Kreme doughnuts and then run back along the same two miles.That's four miles of running to burn off about 2,400 calories.Anyone interested in starting a Tastykake Challenge to raise funds to help our beloved,but financially troubled,Tastykake Baking Co.? Paul Borian
Paul Borian, A Butterscotch Krimpet to you ! [03-31-2011]

Cathy Muir: Your CA'61 yearbook: how much are you offering?
Regina Sprissler Davidson, London/Scotland/and Germantown in the good old days [03-31-2011]

JL, to me, the news came either from John Facenda (local, WCAU, Channel 10) or Walter Cronkite (CBS, also Channel 10). Also, I was very tuned in to current events, and I remember distinctly the trials (1951) and executions (June 1953) of the Rosenbergs, the death of Stalin (March 1953) and the fall of Dien Bien Phu (May 1954). We watch PBS Newshour every evening (delayed one day for broadcast here in Oz). It's the best news and current events program going and there's nothing on a par with it here. Tonight, however, I'll be watching 'The Good Wife' after crashing all day on a rush translation. I need some brain rest.
Cathy (Manning) Muir [03-31-2011]

Mike Deely: I commend you on your salutary comments about some of the great bloggers on this site. John Payne,our Pool-guy and Frank Klock,our poet, also post excellent blogs. Jim Murray is not and never was a journalist and he is the soccer coach and AD at The Prep. Your brother,Father John Deely is living in Ireland and The Deely Family has a great connection with Ireland and The Tradition and Culture. I am pleased that you and Dan Hartnett have no animus towards the Jesuits which would indicate to me that the Jesuit presence in Ireland is not anathema to both of you. The great Jesuit Poet,Gerard Manley Hopkins, lived in Dublin and taught at a University there-probaly The Catholic University. I do know that he had his Funeral-Mass at St. Francis Xavier Church in Dublin which is a beautiful church-it is a Jesuit-church. St. Francis Xavier Church in Fairmount is another beautiful church with beautiful glass-stained windows. Incidentally, The Prep has a connection with Belvedere College High School in Dublin. My mother was very Irish and she would have been saddened to hear Mrs. Joyce's comments about not having a Mass for The Great Irish writer,James Joyce. It is interesting that so many bloggers on this site have a penchant for Irish Culture and History. My father was German-American and taught German. His cousin,Rudy, had a bar in your old neighborhood. It was called Rudy's and was located at Ogontz&Medeary. In the 60's, I stopped there for a visit and there were no Irish patrons and Rudy spoke to me in German and nobody had any idea what we were talking about. Mike! If you are in the vicinity of Lawrenceville,NJ, you can come to a reception at Moore Library at Rider University. This event will start at 4:30 on April 19. If Dan Hartnett shows up, there has to be Fine Wine. I would not want to get him angry and Jack Farrell always talked to him in a mannerly fashion-Jack was one big roofer.
J. Bruce Schmitt [03-31-2011]

ATTENTION! ACHTUNG! Attencione!LISTEN UP! This site is being taken over by 4 or5 people--I'm sick and tired of the same people writing on this site with their boring stories about people most of us don't know. COME ON FOLKS, GET YOUR THINKING CAPS ON & make this site truly about GTN YOUR THOUGHTS.If this pattern continues this website is going to lose many bloggers because of a few individuals- I for one,am getting disinterested with the same people using this site like their personal e mail-C' mon people,get moving-sincerely Lou Giorno.
Lou Giorno, Lou NECHS 53 [03-31-2011]

When the family moved to Germantown, circa 1945--some say invaded-- there were approximately four, fine, well established Black families living in the neighborhood. One of these families, Mr. Willie's, lived next door to us. My bother Jim and I spent a lot of time at Mr Willie's during the early 50's, much to the annoyance of our sometimes politically incorrect father who would ask: "What the Hell is the attraction over there? Those people don't have a pot-to-piss-in." Well… we had a pot and a place to piss, but Mr Willie had a brand new 21 inch, RCA TV-- in a handsome wooden cabinet. We got a new 21" Philips TV shortly afterwards-- nobody outdid the old man--on the "layaway plan," from a store up on the Ave. (Remember when America still made stuff?) They laid your purchase away, in the back of the store, until you paid it off. This was good but not as good as another practice used at the local grocer's store where one could select food items and say: "Put it on the book!" Settlement would be made on payday, sans interest. We didn't do the book; Mom was a pay-as-you-go lady, old style, that would always be telling us "Mind your pennies, the dollars will take care of themselves." I was never sure about that philosophy but these examples did serve to introduce me into the world of finance during those innocent times. It's been quite an evolution from those layaway plans to today's weapons of mass financial destruction--Derivatives. When our big, magic box finally arrived, we only needed to make one phone call to announce the TV was here…the party-line we were on spread the news like a grass fire. We didn't worry about "Big Brother" listening in on our calls back then; the nosey Mrs Q.... was the bane to everyone's privacy. And that's how it was-- in our town-- Germantown, during the early 50's.
kevin McKernan, Santa Barbara, CA., Old St Vincent's and CD [03-31-2011]

Lisa, remember that disaster, the Prom. The car broke down on the Roosevelt Boulevard; we got soaked in the rain and ended up eating dinner, 1 AM, at Linton's Restaurant instead of going to Sciolla's to see Johnny (Chances Are) Mathis. This Blog has strange memories and stranger memorists. Schmitty is the godfather, nothing escapes his purview (also JBS, his initials). Half of what he says isn't true because most of the people he talks about have died and can't complain. Most people will want you to write about 1957 and Happy Hollow and will complain about you if you delve into Catholic dogma, foreign countries, politics, or anything south of Broad and Erie. Persist, however, in adding your voice. Be that deer on Chelten Ave. Leap, (just watch out for the trolley tracks).
Joe Lynch SFA57/LSCHS61/Sho-do-sho-be-wah. . .In the still of the night. . . [03-31-2011]

Duncan, your note made me think of the street you lived on. The best thing about that corner at the center of our lives was how little things changed from day to day. Sal’s Steak Shop was open most of the time. Nick’s Bar was open. We hung around the corner all day and most of the night. Kids in high school, got off the #53 trolley at Wayne and Logan every day between 3:00 and 4:00 in the afternoon and real life began. Didn’t matter which of the high schools the kids went to. Everything and everybody that mattered to us was on the on that corner. Goo Goo was our leader, so whenever he came up with a get-rich-quick scheme or a plot to “Household Finance” a newer car, or to rehearse a new system to bet the horses at Garden State, we applauded. “This could be big, Goo. What about a Cadillac, Goo?” He got a nice one. Powder blue Eldorado convertable. Coolest car I ever saw. Once he showed up with a half dozen one-inch paintbrushes and a dozen small bottles of black paint. He had a brown paper bag crammed full of number stencils. The stencils were made of copper and the numbers were three inches square. Everybody on the corner that morning, seven of us, became curb painters. He drove us to a street of semi-detached houses, mostly one click up from the small row houses most of us lived in. It was a block up from Vaughn’s on Morris Street, across from Fernhill Park. Without asking the owners permission, Goo told us to, “start paintin’ them curbs. Don’t let that paint drip nether. We ain’t got any more.” We were three on a team and each team moved up one side of the block and down the other, painting the street numbers on the curbs in front of the houses. Goo sat in his 49’ Olds smoking Kent regulars, the ones with the Micronite filter on the end that he assured us was good for his health. We leap frogged up one side of the street and down the other side painting the house numbers on the curbs in front of the houses. When the street was finished Goo Goo climbed every doorstep and rang every doorbell. In is business guy voice he said, “Mam, we just painted the house numbers on your curb. Donations are accepted.” We never found out how much he made from each collection, but it couldn’t have been much because we didn’t go back and do the next block the next day. I always wondered about one block with new numbers and the next with no numbers. Goo didn’t worry about that a bit. Curb numbers were over and it was on to the next thing.
Jack Brogan, Why is everybody always pickin' on me? [03-31-2011]

Erda, So happy you can make it on the first i am looking forward to seeing you again. Rosemarie
rosemarie hite malageri [03-31-2011]

CMM - you learned a life lesson the hard way.... There are just some things in life you don't get rid of intentionally, like your high school senior yearbook. It is a part of your personal history and worth that dollar..... Classmates.com sells HS yearbook reprints. I checked for your class and unfortunately they don't have it for 1961. Maybe they will have it in time. Hope you find one....
Dennis McGlinchey, Born & raised in East Germantown [03-31-2011]

Dennis: That is the Continental Beauty Salon, I worked there for a while and Mario and Jay were the owners.
HLD [03-31-2011]

When I moved from Honolulu to Brisbane in 1989 I had to offload a great deal of 'stuff' because it was so expensive to ship ($1 per pound). Among the 'stuff' I offloaded was my CA'61 yearbook. There is a '58 yearbook on eBay but no others that I can find. If anyone has a CA'61 yearbook they no longer want or knows of anyone who might want to sell theirs, please let me know (by private email). Many thanks.
Cathy (Manning) Muir, SFA'57, CA'61, Temple U... [03-30-2011]

Anybody ever hear Bobby Benson and the B-Bar-B Riders on the radio in the late 40's and early 50's? We had a huge, wooden radio, a piece of furniture, large as a Lazy-Boy, that we tuned into for evening shows. It was broken, so you had to stick your thumb into the damn thing to move it around to the station you needed. That and The Bulletin were our conduits to the outside world before TV. We hardly knew anything about politics or crime or city goings-on because the news was condensed to 15 minutes with Douglas Edwards or John Cameron Swayze on TV. I think Dinah Shore (See the USA in your Chevrolet.)led us into John Cameron. Anyway, we sure didn't know much about Korea, MacArthur, Truman or the Cold War. Or perhaps I was too young. That's a possibility.I credit Bobby Benson and the comic section of The Bulletin for my inner world of today. Who da'known?
Joe Lynch/Taller When Prone [03-30-2011]

I live on keyser st.in the 70's and at Wayne and Penn in 60 and 61.This is for harold
dottie g [03-30-2011]

Dave Linn I was sorry to hear of the passing of Bill (Big Daddy) Murphy. While I didn't know him personally he did ref a lot of our games in the CYO leagues that I played in during high school foe SFA. He was surely one of the best refs I ever had call one of our games. Richie, SFA '64, NC'68.
Richard Pio, Born and bred inG-town 1950-95, now in Ocala Fl. area [03-30-2011]

Richard Pio, Sure count me in. I was just recently visited a car museum in Ocala, and its a relatively short drive. How about somewhere in or near The Villages? As you probably know, there is an overabundance of great restaurants in that area.
John Fleming, Tampa Bay, Florida CD'62 [03-30-2011]

I remember going shopping on "The Avenue," at Rowell's, walking down Maplewood Ave. past all those small shops, and having dinner at Horn & Hardart's. I painted a Halloween window at the Penn Fruit on Wayne & Chelten Avenue one year with Catherine Manning and we saw a deer run across Chelten Avenue from the used car dealership and slip on the trolley tracks. It was sensational in those days (late '50's) since deer were usually happy to stay away from populated areas. I went to Cecilian Academy in Mount Airy.
Elisa L. Sheronas, I am 67 and I grew up on Hansberry Street, right off Wayne Avenue, at the end of Newhall Street.. [03-30-2011]

No disrespect but Bruce Schmitt did you maintain a diary growing up ? I just curious because the level of detail in your postings is beyond amazing. I feel certain no one could approach with perhaps the exception of Dan Harnett and Jim McKernan such descriptions of activities so many years ago. The three of you should consider writing a book about Germantown with your incredible knowledge not to be exceeded by anyone.
Frank Westside [03-30-2011]

DAN Hartnett: I concur with Mike Deely's comment that you are one of the great bloggers on this site. I really connected with the blog about The Indians and the great works that The Black Robes[The Jesuits] did with The Indians. The Jesuits did the whole 9 yards, working with The Indians in Canada,The US,Central America,and South America. Like you,I saw movies about The Indians and The Black Robes. In the 80's, my wife,Ludmila, took me to see the movie-"The Mission". The star was Robert DeNiro who was a former slave-trader who killed his brother because his love was in love with his brother. He then joined a Jesuit Priest in fighting the Portugese who exploited The Indians. The venue was Iguazu Falls in Argentina which borders Brazil. Iguazu Falls is one of the most beautiful Waterfalls in the world. The former Jesuit Missions are near The Falls. Joe Lynch,another great blogger on this site, visited Buenos Aires and Argentina and I hope that he visited The Jesuit Missions and Iguazu Falls. He might have even heard The Tango and went to The Colon and listened to The Opera. You and Joe L. are into culture. You have read my post where I mentioned that there will be a reception for Ludmila at The Moore Library in Lawrenceville on April 19 at 4:30. Ludmila was multi-cultural and she also connected with The Irish Culture since they suffered so much like The Ukrainians and The Indians. We always celebrated St. Paddy's Day and her friend,Marita, studied in Dublin,at Trinity. Professor McKernan who is the younger brother of your new friend,Bernie, informed us that Trinity was primarily for Protestants. The Jesuits also have a presence in Dublin and they have The Beautiful St. Francis Xavier Church there. Gerard Manley Hopkins,The Famous Jesuit Poet, had his Funeral Mass at this ethereal church. You went to The Gesu Church in Rome and it was such a moving moment for you. You went to Roman and at 17th&Girard,next to The Prep is the magnificent Gesu of Philadelphia-it resembles The Gesu of Rome. I visited The Jesuit Church in Puebla,Mexico, and it also resembled The Gesu of Rome. Ludmila made a presentation at this venue. I always liked churches from an aesthetic and architectural perspective. Dan! Keep posting and another Irishman from East Germantown,Mike Deely, thinks that you do a great job and he is very astute.
JBS [03-30-2011]

Frankie Baggs: I received the package. Thanks. A return package is en route via snail mail. Great pics, especially the the grouping of the future Rockettes. Cher had fun trying to remember names. I was able to fill in a few. ;), The stuff on Calico Bob was interesting. I never knew about that place. That must have been during my California years. Two days to go until your own celebration of entrance into the material consciousness. Hoist a brew for me, and have a great day. PS, got my butt kicked in 14.1 today. The good news is that it will increase my handicap.
John Payne, without his lifelong friend, Puff could not be brave...so [03-30-2011]

There also was a very nice shop for the,Mother to be on Maplewood ave.,does anyone recall Royale shoes?Marie
Marie Bommentre [03-30-2011]

Rosemarie, I will see you on May 1st Erda
Erda (Armstrong) Graham, From the Westside [03-30-2011]

Roy Bateman, got the joke. It's first used in the First Book of Gulliver's Travels,page 2, by Jonathan Swift.
Joe Lynch/Sometimes a cigar is . . .just a cigar. [03-29-2011]

Regarding that photo of the Maplewood Avenue shop, there was a music shop on that street. I bought a harmonica there back in the late 60s. That shop looks like the music shop that I remember, but another thinks it is the Continental Beauty Shop. Anyone know?
Dennis McGlinchey, Born & raised in East Germantown [03-29-2011]

Can anyone familiar with the Continental Beauty Shop on Maplewood Avenue confirm if this was the shop? The sign can't be seen here. The shop was at 54-56 Maplewood Ave. The PhillyHistory site lists this property as 22 Maplewood Avenue, but looks to be a beauty shop and the feeling is they may have mis-labeled it. The beauty shop was from at least the 1950s thru to the mid-1980s. http://pub3.bravenet.com/photocenter/album.php?usernum=199947123#bn-photocenter-1-1-199947123/56678/1/163273/
Dennis McGlinchey, Born & raised in East Germantown [03-29-2011]

Helen, So happy you will be coming to the G-Town luncheon on the 1st .... Can't wait to see you again. It will be fun to chit chat and it will sure be great to see everybody else again, rosemarie
rosemarie hite malageri [03-29-2011]

Hi Vera Carey Canavan, It is good to read that you will be joining us on May 1st ... we usually have a great time and the food is good too ... see you there, Rosemarie
rosemarie hite malageri [03-29-2011]

Joe Lynch:On our Germantown-site, you have posted many blogs about various characters and subjects dealing with your penchant for books,movies,and film. Suddenly, you mentioned basketball and venues where you and I played. Basketball occupied much of your earlier years before you became a member of The Literati. I would be remiss if I did not respond to your analysis of previous games and characterization of players including JBS. You were a student of the game of basketball and you have to know the difference between a charge and a defensive foul. I also quite adequately know the meaning of charge. General Alexander Haig went to The Prep,my alma-mater,and he was always in charge. At St. Francis, you and I read The Charge of The Light Brigade by Alfred Lord Tennyson. Years later, I visited Yalta where this charge took place. The McKernan Brothers from St. Vincent's,the venerable Catholic School on Price St., had a relative who fought in that battle. You and the Irish Lads on this site,might enjoy that comment. However, charge is not a word or a concept that resonates with me. I don't even like The San Diego Chargers. The only team that I liked in California was The Oakland Raiders when they had Rich Gannon,the great quarterback from The Prep. A charge in basketball occurs when a player runs into the defensive player. I never had the speed of Leroy Kelly or Ken Twiford,Duncan Hubley's friend from GA but I usually was a step ahead of the defender. When a collision occurred, it was because I was getting fouled. Your congenial friend,Bill Haas, fouled me frequently when I went left and entered his zone. There was probaly an element of intensity in my game but I was no different than those Hollow guys-Larry Rinaldi,Paul Borian,and Matt Fasano. You remember Paul Borian as a great hitter but he had a game in basketball-especially defensively. He could really guard Ollie Powers-All-Inter-AC from Penn Charter. He had more difficulty with Larry R. since Larry had great speed and it was a foul when there was body contact and not a charge. I do know want to engage in a riff and I surmise that you get my drift. You mentioned a Biddy Basketball game that we played in our youth. I remembered that game and I was very disappointed since we lost to the kids from the burbs. You and Pat McIlhinney were on that team-2 great base-line shooters. In the beginning of the game, I had easy drives[no charges] and I thought that was going to be an easy victory. They must have changed the zone to a 1-3-1 and driving was impossible. The base-line was open and you and Pat MC should have had big games. Your shots were off and Hughie Mooney told me to throw them up. Another Biddy Basketball Game was played against Norristown Boys Club with Ralph Skag Cottman. I had a decent game but Ralph had 60 points. Years later, I'm reading The Daily News,Ted Silary's favorite paper, and I read that Ralph Cottman had made All-State. You were a very good player and you knew how hard it was to make All-Catholic. I had to laugh when you mentioned that we played against girls. At SFA, I played with 2 good shooters, Pat McIlhinney and Frank Sharpy[the rags] Felice and our rebounder,The Mole-Rowland Adomoli. Mole liked to trash-talk the opponents and call them girls. With his colorful vocabulary, I did not know whether he was talking about real-girls or female cats. Joe Leone and Dom Raffaele will tell you that MOle was a piece of work. You got along with St. John players much better than Mole-especially your friend,Joe Cunnane. Joe! Keep posting and Don't give up the fight-Bob Marley.
Bruce Schmitt [03-29-2011]

Anonymous, thats a good idea, I am very familar with that area. It might be a good idea to schedule the reunion in the afternoon so as all the old heads (John Payne, John Fleming) to name a couple won't have to drive at night. LOL Richie, SFA '64, NC '68
Richard Pio, Born and bred in G-town, 1950-95, now in Ocala Fl.area [03-29-2011]

Mike Deely: Thanks for your kind comment!
Dan Hartnett, Former East Germantown [03-29-2011]

Anonymous (3-28) One week of each month (especially "in season"), leave busy downtown Deerfield Beach (Broward Co.) & head for the hills of Hernando (Citrus County). If you would like to plan a reunion of former Germantown neighbors, just give advance notice as to a specific date, time & place. Post it on this site & let's see how many of us could/would reconnect. I, for one, think it would be "cool"(??)
Lorraine (Cupo) Kelly, fl; ic '55' cdhs '59 [03-29-2011]

TO: Rick Williams (The Monk) of Germantown (The Cave). Rest in Peace Brother. Have a seat in the upstairs Orange with the rest who passed.
Ed Farrar, Chester, VA [03-29-2011]

Joe Lynch, Thanks for stirring up a fond memory....Randolph Scott. I was in love with him; but, of course, he didn't know it! He was my favorite of all the cowboys....slightly "ruff'r n' tuff'r than Gene Autry or Roy Rogers (my opinion). However, when Roy & his "Sons of the Pioneers" sang "Happy Trails To You", I would then wish I were Dale Evans. Thanks for the memories & happy trails to you.
Lorraine (Cupo) Kelly, fl; ic '55; cdhs '59 [03-29-2011]

YO ! "HOWIE" ! Did you get my Birthday Card ??? frank.(they never broke MY thumbs!)
FRANK KLOCK [03-29-2011]

Will see you all MAY 1!
vera carey canavan, St. Vincent's 1956--Little Flower 1960 [03-28-2011]

I feel you pain Del. MASTER BATEMAN
ROY BATEMAN, SFA Class Of 68 [03-28-2011]

I have fond memorys of growing up at 5035 Keyser st.and moving to a back apt.at 4941 Wayne ave in 1967 where I lived till 1969 when I got married and moved to Austin Tx.Moving to Texas was not from fear the way things were changing in Germantown but at 23 years old it was time to try something new.
Raymond H. Rabold, I live in San Marcos Tx. I moved to Austin Tx in 1969 [03-28-2011]

Sony is reissuing on DVD some old cowboy movies with Randolph Scott and Forrest Tucker, among others. I remembered "Frontier Playhouse" at 6 PM, after Howdy Doodey, and how important it was to see Johnny Mac Brown and Lash LaRue (He had a whip.). Hopalong and Gene Autry were for Saturday and matinees--special times for little boys. My absolute favorite was Gene Autry and the Thunder Riders, a sci-fi western, of all things, with people living under a mountain. Every time you heard thunder on a sunny day, Gene and Pat Butrum were in trouble.I HAD TO see every serial at the New Lyric. Roy was also a TV regular. How many plots could revolve around a plane, a jeep and "Happy Trails. On Thursdays, the Lone Ranger shot silver bullets and rode Silverj, his horse, at 7:30. In fact, the whole week, for a while, was dependent on Westerns. Even Yosemite Sam in the cartoons. A boy could grow up with a Manifest Destiny view of the West with all those cowboy heroes and caricatured "Injuns." We obviously weren't being taught "The Trail of Tears." Philly had its own western, live, everyday: "Action in the Afternoon," WCAU studios at 4 o'clock. Minimalist plot, one-dimensional characters on a 9-inch, b & w screen, Dumont TV. No matter, anything taking us away from fractions and memorizing the Southern States for Sister St. Urban (SFA)gave us momentary joy." "A fiery horse with the speed of light, the sound of thunder and a hearty Heigh,Ho, Silver." Then Cathy, Tommy and I went to our beds. God's in heaven; all's right with the world.
Joe Lynch, 200 shot, trail model, Range Rider B B gun. [03-28-2011]

JBS: I enjoy your many posts on the Jesuits. Many people don't know the major parts that the Jesuits played in our early history. You used the term "Black Robes" which is what they were called by the Algonquin, Iroquois and other Indian tribes. There was a really good movie called "Black Robe" which was about a Jesuit priest that is loosely based on Father Isaac Jogues and some of his companions. It contains terrific filming. An author named Frances Parkman wrote a history titled "The Jesuits in North America" which chronicles the explorations, accomplishments, hardships, sufferings, and martyrdom of some of the Jesuits in the early 1600s. Some of the names I remember are Brebeouf and Laliment. In the later 1600s Father Marquette and Louis Joliet (with several other explorers) discovered the Mississippi River and canoed down much of it, as far as the Arkansas River. They were the first Europeans to do so or to even see the Mississippi. The Jesuits had even made contact with and worked among the Sioux Indians who were then in Minnesota as well as the Hurons, a thousand miles inland through untamed wilderness. They came in via Quebec and the St. Lawrence River and accomplished these things when the English were just getting a foothold in New England and had not penetrated 100 miles. Fr. Isaac Jogues, who is now a Saint, was kidnapped by the Iroquois who kept him captive, tortured him badly and burnt off parts of his fingers. After a year he escaped with help from a Dutch captain who was trading with the Iroquois and made it back to his native France. After recovering, he returned and eventually went, at his own request, back to the Iroquois. They martyred him with a tomahawk to the back of the head as well as his assistant, Rene Goupil (unsure of exact spellings). The details are far more than I can tell here and the stories are full of almost unbelievable horrors. The Jesuits kept detailed records of all of their activities and undertakings and frequently sent copies back to France where they can still be studied. They provide exhaustive detail regarding the tribes and their cultures as well as their activities. God bless Ignatius of Loyola. I have been to Mass in Rome at the Gesu Church where he is buried about 20 feet from where I was sitting. I felt honored.
Dan Hartnett, f [03-28-2011]

why not have a germantown reunion in florida seems there is a lot of us from gtn.how about meeting at the quality inn at weeki wachee route 50 and route 19 hernando county fl
anonymous [03-28-2011]

Moose Hermann> I think Rowells is now an Uzi store, but if you don't want to go high end, there are some dump bins with Saturday Night Specials, and num- chucks. Flak jackets and kevlar vests are on the third floor. Enjoy.
John Payne, Badges! Badges! We don't need no stinkin' badges" [03-28-2011]

anyone remember the Murphey family who lived across the street from St. Francis. the kids were Winky and Billy
anonymous [03-28-2011]

gregg striano, still in philly [03-28-2011]

Continental post is a member of facebook. For those of you who would like to friend us. Please do. We will keep you up to date on what is going on at the post during the coming months.
Paul Amendolia, Royal st [03-28-2011]

John Bruce Schmidt, your vast knowledge and litany of the Jesuitical universe needs one corrective footnote. Our most revered graduate at University College, Dublin (The Catholic University established by John Henry, Cardinal Newman) was one James Joyce, the great novelist. He did not, as you stated, take studies at Trinity College Dublin-(The Protestant University). In fact there was a total ban on Catholics attending Trinity (established in 1588 by Queen Elizabeth) until well into the 1960's at the risk of excommunication! I was a professor in the Faculty of Arts and Celtic Studies in Educational Theory at University College Dublin from 1980-1992.An outstanding institution of higher education. Joyce hated Catholicism so much so that when he died in Zurich and a parish priest called around to his wife Nora (of Galway)and asked if he could arrange to say a Requiem Mass for the novelist Nora's reply was "I couldn't do that to him"!
Jim McKernan, St. Vincent De Paul Grammar School, 1959, Professor [03-28-2011]

John Fowler: It's great to see an old Germantowner from St. Francis,North, and The Hollow post on this site. Paul Borian, The Old Jock from The Hollow, loves to read posts from former Hollow people. You were on that great SFA team of 1957 with Joe Lynch and Bill Haas. They were such great team-mates-always passing the ball,falling back on defense,always looking for the open-man,and placing the team above their personal glory and point accumulation. Off the court, they were so humble and self-less, always concerned about other people and arrogance was not part of their personality.John! I can only be talking about Bill and Joe. They were like brothers and no sibling rivalry or jealously. They did not even hit on the same girls. As a younger guy on that SFA team,you were so fortunate to know such quality kids. However, they could be very human. One day,at Fernhill, Bill Haas had an altercation with Leroy Kelly,a Gratz football player,and I broke up the fight. Joe Lynch was so happy that his good friend,Bill Haas, did not get his head busted up by Leroy who became an All-Pro Running Back for The Browns. Bill and Joe were sort of chick-magnets at Fernhill. One day,easy-going Joe Lynch gets in an altercation with Lin Wilson,a very big kid. It was off the court at Fernhill and it had to be over a girl talking to Joe. I had to break up this fight. Lin Wison was angry at me and confronted me at a later date. I am a reserved guy but I was forced to defend myself. Joe Lynch was the king at Fernhill and his friend,Neal McElroy would play ball at The Park. Neal was a soccer player and he would kick me when I would go for a rebound. Joe joked in a previous post that I played with boots. These boots were not meant for walking but Neal never kicked me when I had boots. Joe liked to watch the submarine races on The River Drive but I liked to watch The Crew Races since Crew was a big sport at The Prep. One afternoon, I am watching the crew races on The Drive,and Joe's Friend,Neal McElroy is having a problem with Dave Corky Calhoun,The great basketball player from Penn. I helped Neal out by begging Corky to chill. John! There were so many characters from SFA and our mutual friend,John Uhland was also a character. Another character was Rich Cogshall. When you see him, he has a good story about a blind-date that he had in Kensington. He arrived early and the date was not ready. The Mother yells," Hurry Up and Brush Your TOOTH",your gentleman has arrived. John! I am looking forward to be reading your posts.
Bruce Schmitt [03-28-2011]

My father gave me some advice that I've been turning over in my mind for years. 1)You can love a rich woman as easily as a poor woman; 2)Never sleep with someone crazier than yourself; 3)Girls are like trolley cars--miss one, catch the next; 4)Marriage is a great institution, but who wants to live in an institution?
Joe Lynch/love is a matter of chemistry, sex is a matter of physics [03-28-2011]

I am going from religion and Christ now, to my Jo Jo Deems story. One sunny afternoon back in '61 (I as 11 yrs. old) I guess, I was sitting on top of the batting cage where the Acme lots used to be looking down on a neighborhood game of hardball. We always played ball there. As the innings progressed I happened to lean over the side and spat on the ground, or so I thought the ground. Instead it hit Jo Jo Deems. Though I never knew him personally, his reputation was nasty. You did not want to mess with this guy. When I saw what i had done he looked up at me with that Kirk Douglas sneer (ever see Kirk at the end of the Detective Story sneering at the criminal with the gun in his hand?). You'd know then what I mean. Scared to death what he'd do, he looked up at me, cursed me out and said if I ever did that again he'd climb up and throw me off the batting cage. Now you want to talk about something incredibly stupid, a few innings later, still on top of the cage and not thinking I did it again! I spat on Jo Jo Deems. I looked down realizing what I had done. I became numb. I just could not believe I did it again. Jo Jo, with his face red as a police car (in those days they were red), couldn't climb up the cage fast enough. I could not move. I was literally frozen in fear. When he got to the top and me expecting any second to be tossed into oblivion, he stopped. Looking me over I guess realizing I didn't mean it and seeing how young I was compared to him (he had to be 4 or 5 years older), he instead worked up this huge lunger and spit back at me. I don't know if it ever hit me or not because all I could see was that welcomed sight of him climbing back down to the ground cursing at me. This time I was smart, I climbed back down the other side making sure I'd never spit on him again. The next time I saw him about 6, 7 years later sitting in the Dog House next to the New Lyric I tried to "bud up" with him by asking for a match, so I could light a cigarette. He looked at me, gave me a match but didn't say a word and did not look like he wanted to, at least to me. He went back to his newspaper and I figured I'd better leave. So JoJo, if you ever see this post, thank you, and I really mean it, for not throwing me off the batting cage that day.
wayne doneker, My Jo Jo Deems story [03-28-2011]

J. Bruce Schmitt: I enjoy your postings but none more than your latest wherein you urge "God Bless America"..It's so gratifying to see an American who is proud of being an American, and not one apologizing to every "tin horn" dictator he meets..(I'd better get off this subject matter before I go ballistic..) I thought Haig was from Philly (even G'Town)but I wasn't sure...You mentioned a Jim Murray in your last note. Wasn't he hooked up with Eagles in some form or fashion?..This "homepage" is unbelievable. I've met a young man who lived 2 doors up from Grandfather's house (at different times) on Shedaker St..I've met the grandson of our St. Benedict's Parish Sexton on this page..I find that when I posted an inquiry about the "Lyons" family and it's relation to the Post Office, I hear from the children of my Dad's best friends...This is like a "gift".Some of the postings are unbelievable; e.g. Lorraine Cupo Kelly's "apologia" was unbeatable...The writings of "Lynch, McGlinchey, Hartnett, Barrett et al are great...One could get an "education" just by viewing this page...Thanks again for your kind note and if you & yours would remember to say a prayer for my brother Fr. John Kevin Deely, OMI, it would be deeply appreciated...Great experience visiting this "homepage"...Mike Deely
mike deely, older than dirt [03-28-2011]

Wayne Doneker,Thank you for sharing your testimpmy. I was born again Sept.3 1978.
Dot, Liveed in Germantown 1947-1971 [03-28-2011]

JBS> Just reviewed my last post to you. Oops, misspelled noches, sorry, better stick to Ingles. In addition to my spelling gaff, I had one of my more common goofs, and sent it, signed anonymous.
John Payne [03-28-2011]

JBS, One of your old timers from Rox. and the Prep just passed away and was pretty well known. Billy (Big Daddy) Murphy who owned the bar on Henry Ave. until he bought the Ale House on Germantown Pike in Lafayette Hill. He was also a college basketball referee in his day.
Dave Linn [03-28-2011]

Lou, I guy from E. Gtn., I think his name was Billy McSparron hit a ball over the left field fence to Penn St.
GBC-er, 1950's & 60's [03-28-2011]

Has anybody been in the old Rowells store lately? What is in there? I remember it as a rather fine store along the order of John Wanamakers if not s tsdf better.
Moose Herrmann, Penn & Magnolia corner [03-25-2011]

HLD: Thank you.....for those kind words. I can't wait to see you again at the luncheon...
L.Fontana [03-25-2011]

Kevin McKernan: Thanks I enjoyed your paragraph re: re-visiting your old stomping grounds....I used to work for a Home Security Co. and had to venture into old "G" town...in '1998"/to try to make a sale for a system...needless to say, I was scared poopless...when I finally had to exit my car. The looks I got made me feel so uncomfortable, like I was invading their turf...so, I can full well appreciate your experience,too.Sad, but true..Germantown as 'we' knew it, exists NO more...(LAF)
L.Fontana [03-25-2011]

Hey Sheila, I hope you can make the G-Town luncheon this time around ... its May 1st at 1pm la fontonas .... Rosemarie
rosemarie hite malageri [03-25-2011]

Mike Deely: Your last blog was excellent-so broad and steeped with interesting information. You are not just getting older but better. I appreciate your kind words about that venerable Jesuit Institution at 17&Girard. Back in the day, some of those Jesuit teachers could be tough. After all,The Society of Jesus was founded by a former General-Ignatius of Loyola. General Alexander Haig went to The Prep. Colonel Brian Reed also went to The Prep and he captured Saddam Hussein in Iraq. Joe Lynch from LaSalle should have gone to The Prep and he would have acquired an attitude of gratitude since I passed him the ball countless times at Fernhill Park. I am impressed with your avid interest in basketball-especially about Butch Van Bredakolff who was the legendary coach at Lafayette,Princeton and The LA Lakers. Butch started coaching at Lafayette where my wife,Ludmila was A Professor of Foreign Languages and her friend Marita Krivda,Dolph's sister, was a Librarian. Marita's husband,Michael Poxon, has blogged on this site. Butch also coached Bill Bradley at Princeton. St. Joe College beat that Princeton team when The Legendary Jack Ramsay was coaching. St. Joe had other great coaches-Jack McKinney,Paul Westhead,JimLynam,and Jim O'Brien[Ramsay's son-in-law]. Getting back to Butch, at LA, he coached Wilt Chamberlain,Elgin Baylor,and Jerry West. Butch and Doctor Jack were 2 of the greatest coaches in basketball. Digger Phelps was a great coach for Notre Dame and he went to Rider. Sonny Kennedy from The Hollow and SFA might have know Digger of Hazelton when he played for Rider in the 60's. However, I am so happy that Father John Deely is doing The Lord's Work in Ireland and not teaching at The Jesuit University[Sophia] in Tokyo. As you know,The Jesuit Order has been hated over The Centuries and it pleases me that Father John has such good rapport with The Black Robes,The Company. Dolph's sister,Marita Krivda Poxon, studied at Trinity in Dublin, as did James Joyce, The Great Irish Writer and Poet. Prior to Trinity, James Joyce studied at Jesuit Institutions in Ireland. This is not a good topic since Joyce was not known for his deep faith. The Jesuits also missed the boat with Fidel Castro when he studied with them In Santiago,Cuba. My wife,Ludmila, visited Cuba in the 60's when she was a Vassar Professor but she was totally anti-communist since her parents had suffered under Communism and Fascism in Ukraine. Mike! The US is not perfect but it is the greatest country in the world. "GOD BLESS AMERICA AND GERMANTOWN"
John Bruce Schmitt [03-25-2011]

QUESTION --for all you guys who played baseball at the GBC's Bacon field--I know of only one player who hit a ball over the left field fence (Fred Loffredo)-please let me know if you know of anyone else. Lou Giorno
lou giorno, lou Nechs 53 [03-25-2011]

Joe Leone: I remember George Deems being in my class and I was a grade ahead of you at SFA. Obviously, he winded up in your class. You are correct that Dorothy Eastburn was a striking beauty. I remember when she and Bill Durant were an item but he died very young. I am surprised that she did not go after you or Al Patrizi since you were better looking than that other guy. Margie Tippett in Cusack's class was a beauty and Sabina Cunningham was an incarnate beauty in my class. We were so fortunate at SFA since all the girls were better than average and had great personalities. Joe! I hope to see you at The Buck on April 19.
JBS [03-25-2011]

Jack Brogan> That's a nice family history. You are a lucky guy. It's nice that the sisters stayed so close after coming to the U.S. Maurice? An Irishman named Maurice? Sure and is he puttin' on the airs?
John Payne [03-25-2011]

Schmitty: I think I would enjoy attending one of the gatherings of the Germantowners, maybe one day. A bit of disappointment for you..I haven't had or kept the faith since sometime around eigth or ninth grade. I just defend other folks right to believe, or not, as they please. I probably did an inartful job of trying to express that thought. As for the Spanish interest, Florida of course has a great representation as a result of its history. My command of the language is probably limited to fifty words and ten phrases, but I get the most out of them. :) Buenos nochas.
anonymous [03-25-2011]

My experience is different when I return to the old neighborhood as my mother still lives in the house that I grew up in. Sure the neighborhood has changed in its make up and I like Kevin McKernan is the stranger to all of my mothers neighbors, it is still aesthetically beautiful with all the trees and flowers . I can still go home. Richie,SFA'64, NC '68.
Richard Pio, Born and bred in G-town 1950-95, now in Ocala area [03-25-2011]

Hello everyone. i do not plan on beating this thing about religion to death but the good news (the gospel in Greek) is religion does not get you into the kingdom of God. You do not have to worry about what religion you are when you go off into eternity. That's the good news. Jesus sometimes railed against religion telling the religious Pharisees, "because of your religion (or tradition) you negate the commandments of God." If people really knew the Bible and what it has to tell everyone it would do 1 of 2 things; make people very upset or make people realize they need to run to Him. There is a lot of unbiblical teachings in MANY churches because many priests and pastors (not all) are just as biblically illiterate as most Christians are. Though they may be gifted orators many are not proclaiming the gospel message because of political correction. I know, I used to be illiterate as well. I went to Trinity Lutheran church on the corner of Queen La. and GTN Ave. for years. i was confirmed (like Catholic catechism) there. Never once was I told or taught that Jesus was God. The Bible does in both the Old and of course the New Testament. Before He came to earth He was the pre-incarnate Christ or YHWH of the Old Testament. In Revelation 1:18 He refers to Himself as the Almighty. I do not knock anyone. I only learned these things in the early 90's and I am 60 years old now. I could die any minute but I have peace because I know where I am going when it is over. Religion does not give you peace especially when the the tests come back positive from the doctor's office. If you know Christ, He comforts you in such storms. Everyone has to know when it is their time to seek. Jesus said (John 3:3) "you must be born-again to see the kingdom of heaven." Remember, it doesn't matter who you are or what you have done. You may even have innocent blood on your hands, He accepts anyone who seeks Him. Their is no such thing as the unforgivable sin. The Bible says the only unforgivable sin is to reject Christ. You can change that. The path to heaven is not religion but relationship. A relationship with Christ. Please forgive me if I have angered anyone but the most loving thing I can tell my fellow "Germantowners" is that we are all sinners and we all need the Savior. Please run to Him.
Wayne Doneker, Religion no, Christ yes! [03-25-2011]

I will never forget my first encounter with the sisters at St. Francis. I attended Fitler for the first four grades and the first two weeks of fifth grade. I was from a mixed marriage; my father was Episcopalian my mother Catholic. On that second week of school in fifth grade my mother enrolled my brother David, sister Susan and I at St. Francis. We were downstairs with Mother Superior and I was sent upstairs by myself to class. I knocked on the door and walked into Sister Agnes (Ignatius?)'s class. I said I was to be in her class. She asked my name and I replied, "James Conner". She replied "no it isn't" then "are you sure that's your name?" I was mortified! She said that couldn't be your name". I was really frightened now. Sister Agnes then said, "James Connor please stand up." He did. There were three fifth grades and she couldn't believe that we were both in the same class now. It would get confusing when she called out James Conner. She would say Connor "or" or "er" Of course it would often be "master Conner" or "master Pio" or whatever. I can't remember his first name, but the one exception was a guy named Bates. He alone would be called "mister." James Connor was the smart one. My mother's name is Agnes and Sister Agnes would get very mad at me when I misspelled her, their, names. I would often put in an extra "a". In passing back the test if I got a good mark it was only because I had been given his test. We two James Connor / Conner's were "Milk Boys" for the class and became friends. I was a choirboy and loved sitting in the balcony at the church. I think Sister Agnes was the choirmaster. Always envious of the alter boys like Richard Pio who got off from class a lot to work special services. To attend North Catholic I would take the H Bus to Hunting Park Avenue to get on the trolley at the beginning of the route to go all the way down Erie Avenue. Getting on there I always had a good seat before everyone else transferred at Broad and Erie from the Wayne Avenue and Germantown Avenue trolleys. The kids from Germantown were so far from most of the students who attended North it was like we were from the suburbs. Guys would ask me where that accent was from! Who remembers a few times when there was a problem with the trolley and we walked to North from Broad and Erie? Who remembers Father Butler, his night stick and his Patton like introduction to the freshmen from the auditorium's balcony overlooking the schoolyard? I remember his jeep that he would pull in front of the trolley on the way home and pull guys off that were smoking. Jug! The trolley operator would yell "you can't do that!" He would also shave heads in the cafeteria until someone called the health department and he had to do them in his office. Can you imagine someone doing any of that today?
Del Conner [03-24-2011]

John Payne, thanks for asking. Joe Lynch's mom, Kathleen, was my mom's sister. She was the best human being I ever knew. Named my daughter after her. Kathleen was my mom's sister. When we were little kids, every day at about 10:30 in the morning my mother would walk out of 4634 Fernhill Road and down the street to 4614 for tea with her sister. Around two, Kathleen would walk up to our house for tea. Joe's Dad, like the sisters, was born in Skibbereen I think. My father was born in County Tyrone in the six counties of the Northern Ireland. I had the pleasure of travelling in Ireland with Kathleen Lynch, Joe's dad Maurice, my mother and sister and others to both the houses where our parents were born. Both houses are still in the family. If you and Cherry go, find the church. They have all the records. We found out that my mother gave herself 4 or maybe 5 years on Ellis Island. Her brother Michael said, "God save us, I myself was born in 1910 and I was the baby of the family. Perhaps your mother Agnes and I are twins." She was born in 1905 or 1906. My father lived and died married to a younger woman. Only she was an older woman.
Jack Brogan, I don't need a weather vane to see which way the wind blows. [03-24-2011]

Well, Liz Taylor died the other day. In the old days, nuns and old wags would scold her many divorces and Hollywood lifestyle, but to young boys, she was the beauty we aspired to. You needed a scorecard for her husbands and hospital visits, but when she was on the screen you knew you were in Hollywood, Opening Night. That role in A Place in the Sun and that kiss with Montgomery Clift I tried to copy my whole life.She burst off the screen into your consciousness like no one else. All these years her personal life was a movie, and we didn't even know it. She was a one person "fanzine." Who's this Jennifer Aniston girl?
Joe Lynch/Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf? [03-24-2011]

Jack Brogan: the anonymous posting re: Ireland was from me. John.
John Payne [03-24-2011]

John Payne: I commend you on your beautiful words about Margie Tippett whose persona was so prepossessing and humble. Margie and Sister Pat were in that great SFA Class of 1954. Jack Brogan and Tom Cusack were blessed to be in that class with so many wonderful classmates. You were also in a great class at SFA[1958] with many members of your class posting on this site-Frank Klock,Jack McHugh,Dave Byrne,and now one of Goo's favorite players-John Fowler. I am happy to see that you still have faith,and at the same time,you survived one tough confessor at SFA which prepared you for moral and theological challenges. Living in Florida, has given you an interest in Spanish. I wonder if there are many Hispanics in the old neighborhoods in Germantown. I would conjecture that your old classmate,Jack McHugh is proficient in Spanish since he lives in Texas. When I visited Miami and San Antonio with my wife, I only heard Spanish. I spend a lot of time at Spring Lake,The Irish Riviera,and Gaelic is only spoken on St. Paddy's Day. I hope that you found a good Irish-tavern on March 17. I regret that you are not able to make some of the mini- Germantown reunions which are a lot of fun. I would have liked to see you at The Reception for Ludmila at The Moore Library at Rider on April 19. Incidentally, Sonny Kennedy went to Rider and played basketball there during The 60's. Mr Hollow,The Bor,says that Sonny has quite the palate and his wine-collection is impressive-Pura Vida. I empathize with Sonny K. and Jack Brogan with the passing of their good friend,Margie Tippett. It is so difficult and painful to deal with the loss of such a good and wonderful friend.
J. Bruce Schmitt [03-24-2011]

Billy Deems was in our class of 57. they lived at 321 wister the pink building was called the ship. I used to deliver the Bulletin to them there
Ray Dawes, st fr 57 north 59 gtn 61 nicoletties 64 [03-24-2011]

Going back "Home" need not always be traumatic. Believe it or not, I have found humor in past visits, one of which I thought I would share with you. Unlike Dennis McGinchey's friend that sat in her car and cried over what had happened to her old home, I once stood across the street from my old homestead examining a factory door panel on which the brothers and I had carved our life and loves into. One brother, (PJ), had actually carved a small novella recording the longest, and in his opinion, the greatest hose-ball game ever played at that site. The rest of us carved the usual hearts with names of girls now lost to the mist of time. Four decades and countless coats of forrest green paint could not conceal our etchings. About this time I was surrounded by a gang of the new neighborhood kids that demanded to know who I was and what I was doing in THEIR hood. When I told them that my family had once lived here, one skeptical punk said: "That's impossible. I've lived here my entire life (12-14 yrs.?) and don't know you." After a little "stink eye", we both moved on, me smiling at the thought of "THEIR" neighborhood? Maybe you can't go home again...(Tom Wolfe).
kevin McKernan, Santa Barbara, CA., St Vinny's '58, CD '62 [03-24-2011]

Albie Deems lived on rubican st.he worked at that junk yard on collom st.
anon [03-24-2011]

John Fowler, tell some Schmitty stories on the Blog of moving picks, hard charges,intentional fouls, pulling on the shorts, stepping on the toes, elbowing the weak--and these, my friend, were against the GIRLS. Schmitty wanted to win in those days. I once toured with him at the GBC in some foreign land on a team called The Little Kings. We had neat gold uniforms but no cohesion. He had 24 points and I had 2 on Biddy baskets, 8 feet tall. We both may have been overage but it was a big crowd and I think Bud Alexander needed us to fill out his roster. Sorry, Bud, we lost, but I still remember the pride of the uniform that had The Little King on it bouncing a basketball. I always chose Schmitty on my side. D'ya think I'm crazy? He usually wore shoes; he never seemed to have his sneaks with him. By the way, we used to put our GBC club ticket in our sneaks when we had a hole in one of them until we could afford a new pair. That is the truth. John, help me out here! You must have a Bill Haas story.
Joe Lynch SFA57,LSCHS61/Don't Sing It. Bring It. [03-24-2011]

Footnote: My parents were one of the last families to leave "G" town/ and got practically nothing for their lovely home, they put so much into.They moved into the Northeast section of Phila...along with two of my mothers sisters and their families. This happened after it wasn't 'considered' safe to walk outside in "G" town anymore/ I got married and also moved out/ but, went to the burbs...did we all go 'too fast', who knows...but, let's be thankful we have so many nice memories of our childhoods/growing up when and where we did. L>A>F>
L.Fontana [03-24-2011]

Jack McHugh: Interesting about the SSJ nuns habit. Never knew any of it. I do remember being taught all the clothing and articles used by the priests at Mass.
John Fleming, Tampa Bay, Florida CD'62 [03-24-2011]

RAY DAWES, I didn't have a sister named Marie.
John Fleming, Tampa Bay, Florida CD'62 [03-24-2011]

Frank Westside: Yes you are correct, as most did move to the Northeast, or was it the Great Northeast? LOL. To be honest I was sort of including the Northeast, with the term "suburbs" I think for the folks from Kensington, the big move to the suburbs was to Juanita Park, as for the first time, they would have grass to cut.
John Fleming, Tampa Bay, Florida CD'62 [03-24-2011]

Beautifully said Linda - we are all one in spirit.
HLD [03-24-2011]

John Brogan> I did not realize that your parents, or at least your Da, was born in Ireland; I think I also read that Joe Lynch's mom was born there. Since you two are cousins, I'm guessing they were brother and sister. It's nice that you went over to visit, and actually saw your dad's home. Cherry and I have not made that trip yet, but plan to do so. I do not know if I will be able to locate my grandmother's home. That was a long time ago, and I have very little information.
anonymous [03-23-2011]

Some months ago I was in western Penna., I went into the county museum of one of the counties out there and as I opened the door of the museum what I saw standing on the other side of the door was a mannequin dressed in the habit of the Sisters of St. Joseph. The mannequin was holding a card which first of all explained that the building used to be a convent of the sisters for 68 years and that the nuns first came from France then St. Louis, then Chestnut Hill, then Flushing, NY, and from there came out here in the 1860’s, then it went on to explain what the habit meant----the triangle headpiece represents the Holy Trinity, I alway wondered why they had such a large head piece and the other nuns I saw had a short rounded one, the habit has 7 pleats in the front represents the 7 gifts of the Holy Spirit and the 5 knots on the belt signify the wounds of Jesus. The sisters probably told me what the habit stood for but I didn’t pay attention to it at the time----well that was my loss.
Jack McHugh [03-23-2011]

How many of you guys wore your GBC membership card on your belt loop to show that you were a cool cat? I remember most of my friends doing just that as a form of recognition.
lou giorno, lou NECHS 53 [03-23-2011]

Lou, you can say that again!
Sheila [03-23-2011]

Hi Margie!
Joe DePero, 54, levittown, st mikes 70. [03-23-2011]

John - thanks for your observations on potential reasons folks made a massive exodus from Germantown. But, most did not move to the suburbs they moved to Northeast Philly and other less expensive areas - not the suburbs. In those times a great number of Germantown families could never afford the suburbs.
Frank Westside [03-23-2011]

John Fowler> Welcome to the site. Glad you were able to find it. Type your name in the search box, and you will find several references to you among the past blogs. Some are even favorable! LOL :)
John Payne [03-23-2011]

JOHN FLEMMING was marie your sister.
RAY DAWES, 57 st francis 59 nc 61 germantown 64 nicholetties [03-23-2011]

To John Fleming: Thank you for your candidness re white flight. We were one of the last families on the block to leave. Life on E. Stafford St. sure had made a major change. For years my mother missed her Germantown rowhouse, but she learned to love her little suburban twin. Still have lots of fond memories, though.
Steve Swift, E. Stafford St. [03-23-2011]

Our family moved from the Germantown/West Oak Lane area when a brick came "flying through" our front storm door. At the time (1968), our family consisted of 2 young boys, ages 4 & 5. My husband was at work when the incident occurred. I remember calling him and describing how upset & frightened I was. There was no reason or provocation for the violent act, just bored boys looking for some neighborhood action. We took action.....put our house up for sale & moved to Bucks Co. In our Bucks County neighborhood, there was & STILL IS a sense of community. That same sense of community is what I remember growing up in "old" Germantown....something that, I think, has disappeared from the present day Germantown. One more note....Dennis McG... The 4th Commandment (Honor Thy Father & Thy Mother) made it difficult for a child to tell his/her parents he/she didn't want to attend the school of their parents' choice. I guess if a psychology professor were to analyze we Gtn. grown-ups of today, he/she would blame all of our adult problems on our parents....which is basically what you did. They (the psychology professors) seem to blame EVERYTHING that's wrong in our adult lives on our parents. I, for one, appreciated my Catholic school education & respected my parents' choice to educate me in that system. I enjoyed attending IC & CDHS. I still remember the names of the Sisters who taught me. They not only taught me the academics, but they strengthened the values, instilled in me by my parents....values necessary in being a good person. Thanks for the memories
Lorraine (Cupo) Kelly, fl; ic '55' cdhs '59 [03-23-2011]

My guess is that we all could spend hours debating what happened to our old neighborhood. Urban flight certainly had a lot to do with it, as did block busting ( common in the late 60's) and people just merely looking for a better place ( quieter, less congested etc. ) The fact is we all remember our neighborhood so fondly because we remember our youth so fondly. Those we shared " special moments" with, family who has left us and friends that we thought we would maintain forever. But in all reality, everything changes and we must change too. So remember your youth, be thankful for the moments and praise those who shaped our lives. Maybe we all changed more than Germantown did.
Bob D'Angelo, NC 65 Marshall U 71 [03-23-2011]

[if Catholicism does not work for you, go find what does work for you…. Instead of wallowing in anger, which is so pointless, find the peace within however way it comes, even if it comes from a belief in nothing. Life is too short….] Perfectly said, I could not have said it any better myself. That is a very Christian attitude. It shows a lot tolerance. Too bad that religions are tolerant except to other religions.
John Fleming, Tampa Bay, Florida CD'62 [03-23-2011]

John Fowler, Nice to see you here! Hope all is well with you and yours.
Dave Byrne, sfa 58, nechs 62, [03-23-2011]

Frank Klock: Like you and many bloggers on this site, I was so saddened by the loss of The Beautiful Margie Tippett. I was also deeply touched by the heartfelt words from you,Jack Brogan,Dom Rafffaele, and John Payne about "Margie". She was truly a beauty but as we all knew,"She Was Much More". I was a grade behind her at St. Francis and when she walked down the hall, her radiant smile permeated the entire floor. Her smile was charismatic and everybody liked her-both girls and boys. Frank! AS you know, Margie was an outstanding athlete for SFA and Little Flower. When I saw Margie play basketball on the court, I was in awe of her since she had so much talent,strength and tenacity. I really enjoyed Jack Brogan's blog about Margie's experience with the shot-put. I was fortunate to have known Margie and her friends from SFA, including another beauty, Sabina Cunningham- Sonny Kennedy would agree with this remark. "May Margie Tippett,Pat Payne, and Sabina Cunningham Rest In Eternal Peace"-3 beautiful ladies from SFA. Margie's sister was Connie who was another great athlete and person. Margie was a great role-model for Connie and other younger girls. Jean Masterson was a classmate of Dom Raffaele and myself, she was Margie's cousin and another outstanding basketball player and jump-shooter. Margie had a great influence on younger women-players-at SFA and Little Flower. You know my friend,Pat MCIlhinney, a great jump-shooter,and we often talk about the great women-athletes from SFA. Pat MC and I always knew you as an upfront-guy and I must have been confabulating to think that you would submit a post anonymously. Frank! I was not as tough as you[intellectually] and some of the tough shots that I took,must have affected my cognitive thinking. You and I,with our Jesuit-education could jump into the religious fray on this site,being only fair football players,we must punt. My memory has not completely faded,since I remember the last time that I talked with you at The Pub at 29th&Allegeny-this was in the70's. Later I talked to Jack Gallager who was Joe Gallagher's brother-John Fries cousin.I am also happy to see your old friend,John Fowler from SFA, get on board with this Germantown-train, I know that both of you could function at The Junction[Wayne]- you are our poet. I had a friend from The Prep by the name of John Uhland and John Fowler saved his life on the golf course[Plymouth] when he gave him mouth to mouth resuscitation. At SFA, Ava Fowler was in my class before she went to CA and eventually became a nun. I gave you some G-town and SFA info to chew or digest. Frank! Keep posting and The Hawk will never die.
J.Bruce Schmitt [03-23-2011]

To 'Everybody"..I believe that there is good in everyone, until proven otherwise...whether you are of the Catholic faith and were raised that way, what is of the utmost importance here is to never give up your 'caring for Jesus'...with all of this controversy swirling around us regarding the 'bad apple' priests who have done irreparable damage to some souls.....while they're supposed to be respectable men of the cloth..."this too shall pass", but, not without scars to many ...including some of us Catholics who won't ever get by it/Let's all bow our heads and pray for this world, which is in great need of prayers.....for SO MANY reasons. Most Respectfully, Linda "F".
L.Fontana [03-23-2011]

John Fleming: "Your words ring true", and definitely struck a chord...of reminiscing...I am in agreement with you. Sincerely, Linda "F"
Linda Fontana [03-23-2011]

I dont agree totally with frank westside .... for those who sold their homes so quickly out of fear of harm or prejudice or perhaps both yes they jumped the gun but there were those of use who stayed and then left because we were harmed not because we wanted to leave.
rosemarie hite malageri [03-23-2011]

Thanks to Bob D'Angelo for sharing that wonderful story and to the webmaster for sharing that link. The Baptist Temple Church in Blue Bell is not far from where I live and pass it often. A newer modern building that never even occurred to me to have such a vast history. Remarkable story....
Dennis McGlinchey, Born & raised in East Germantown [03-23-2011]

Anonymous, I was a schoolmate of Georgie Deems at St Francis. The family lived on Collom st. I remember what a shock it was to some people when joe-Joe deems married Dorothy Eastburn who at that time was one of the prettiest girls in Germantow.
Joe Leone [03-23-2011]

EVERY religion works for the people it works for. Many of us were raised in the religion of our parents. Some of us walked away from that religion to find other spiritual paths that worked for us. I no longer choose to build up my spiritual path by knocking down someone else's. Besides, all prayers fall on the same being..and there are many different paths to that entity.
Peggy (Gillespie) Berkey, Colorado Springs [03-23-2011]

anyone remember Buddy's Luncheonette on greene street across from Vernon Park and greene street bowling alley where tommy martin set pins?
anonymous [03-22-2011]

To Anonymous : I remember the Deems Family, I think Albie was the youngest, there was Arthur & Rosie too . I can't imagine anyone from Brickyard not knowing at least one of the Deems, they were a big family .
Dolly, NE Philly [03-22-2011]

J. Bruce Schmitt: Many moons ago there was a writer for the Inquirer, Bulletin or Daily News by the name of Foxx..He once wrote an article about how once 2 Philadelphians met for the first time, they'd soon ask "what Parish are you from?"Those times are gone forever, I guess..It is interesting to realize that you're a grad of St. Francis (Green & Logan sts.?) My Dad and his Family were all grads of that institution..You mention a "Jim Murray" from G'Town and his connection with the "Prep"...His name rings a bell, but I can't place him.. As for St. Joe's reputation, I've never heard a bad word about the school. All I ever heard about that place was "that's where the best & brightest" go...Maybe the bad "raps against the "Hawks" may well be attributed to that nasty bile called "envy"...Lawrenceville & Rider University..What a combo..Beautiful country and not far from one of my favorite Universities..(They came close to pulling off one of the greatest upsets in NCAA tournament history, but it was not to be...Alas and Alack...I think Digger Phelps played and/or coached @ Rider..(My memory is really getting bad)..I do remember meeting Butch Von Bredakoff (former Coach @ Princeton)several years ago on LBI..He bought a boat rental place on Cedar Bonnet Island right on the door-step of LBI and his main helper was his son who at that time was playing for Vanderbilt...Butch coached for several years @ Princeton...Where he coached afterwards is "foggy" at best..I think he even coached in the NBA but I don't remember the "time-line"..As for Father John Deely, O.M.I., he was in Ireland when the event happened..Fr. John is semi-retired and teaches "Irish History" to "hearing-impaired" students..Most of his students were in the Dublin area while Fr. John visited our Family in Galway..When news hit about the quake & and Tsunami all hell broke lose...Fr. John got all of his students back to the "homeland" but as is usually the case, more are suffering from the plight of their relatives, real estate and fellow country-men...Yesterday, Fr. John rode his bike @ 36 miles (roundtrip) to administer the last rites to an aged woman dying of breast cancer..(She was a parishoner)He tells us that food vanishes by noon over there from shelves....I think what Fr. John and his "flock" really need are our prayers...Every once in a while, if you get a chance, toss up an "Ave" for Fr. John and his parishoners....Thanks, Mike Deely
mike deely, older than dirt [03-22-2011]

I recently commented on some remarks made by Bill Cupo. I would like it understood that, not only do I not have an axe to grind with Bill, but I know him and his family well and have the highest regard and personal respect for all of them. He said "X" and I said "Y". It is a respectful exchange of views. Please don't line up on one side or the other and make a disagreement into anything more than it is. I think there might be a minority that would stoke a religious war.
Dan Hartnett, Former East Germantown [03-22-2011]

The talk about altar boys reminded me of my cousin Eileen. She came to live at our house from County Tyrone in Northern Ireland. I think Joe Lynch and I were half in love with her. She had red hair and a great figure and she worked as a waitress at Lintons and made more than my sister who was a legal secretary. Eileen got married at St. Francis of Assisi, and I was an altar boy at the High Nuptual Mass at 10.00 on a Saturday morning. Forty years later I visited the house where my father was born in Plum Bridge, County Tyrone. I walked into the tiny house and there on the wall was a picture of that wedding. P.J. McGarity, who celebrated that mass and who also came from Tyrone, was in in the picture and so was I, down at the end of the line. The hair went up on my neck when I saw the picture. I was thinking about my connections to the Old Sod, when my mother said, "They knew you were coming. Don't get so fulla' yourself."
Jack Brogan, Sittin' in La La waitin' for my ya ya... [03-22-2011]

A friend from Montreal sent me this story to me today. It deals with a a piece of Philadelphia history. I had never heard this story,so I thought I would share it. A little black girl, named Hattie May Wiatt, stood near a small church from which she had been turned away because it was "too crowded." "I can't go to Sunday School," she sobbed to the pastor as he walked by.Seeing her shabby, unkempt appearance, the pastor guessed the reason and, taking her by the hand, took her inside and found a place for her in the Sunday school class. The child was so happy that they found room for her, and she went to bed that night thinking of the children who have no place to worship God . Some two years later, this child lay dead in one of the poor tenement buildings, of a disease common in that era. Her parents called for the kindhearted pastor who had befriended their daughter to handle the final arrangements. As her poor little body was being moved, a worn and crumpled red purse was found, which seemed to have been rummaged from some trash dump. Inside was found 57 cents and a note, scribbled in childish handwriting, which read: "This is to help build the little church bigger, so more children can go to Sunday School." For two years she had saved for this offering of love. When the pastor tearfully read that note, he knew instantly what he would do. Carrying this note and the cracked, red pocketbook to the pulpit, he told the story of her unselfish love and devotion. He challenged his deacons to get busy and raise enough money for the larger building. But the story does not end there... A newspaper learned of the story and published It. It was read by a wealthy realtor who offered them a parcel of land worth many thousands of dollars. When told that the church could not pay so much, the realtor offered to sell it to the little church for 57 cents. Church members made large donations. Checks came from far and wide. Within five years the little girl's gift had increased to $250,000.00--a huge sum for that time (near the turn of the century). Her unselfish love had paid large dividends. When you are in the city of Philadelphia, look up Temple Baptist Church, with a seating capacity of 3,300. And be sure to visit Temple University, where thousands of students are educated. Have a look, too, at the Good Samaritan Hospital and at a Sunday School building which houses hundreds of beautiful children, built so that no child in the area will ever need to be left outside during Sunday school time. In one of the rooms of this building may be seen the picture of the sweet face of the little girl whose 57 cents, so sacrificially saved, made such remarkable history. Alongside of it is a portrait of her kind pastor, Dr. Russell H. Conwell, founder of Temple University and author of the book, "Acres of Diamonds".To this day, the Temple sports teams have a diamond trim around their uniforms to honor the founder of the university . This is a true story, which goes to show WHAT GOD CAN DO WITH 57 CENTS.
Bob D'Angelo, NC '65 Marshall U '71 [03-22-2011]

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Anonymous - I do remember Albie Deems,and frankly had not thought of that name in many many years. I recall he was a mysterious character that no one really knew. If I recall he appeared to be unkept and I always felt a bit sad for him, as he never seemed to have any friends or be accepted by anyone.A complete outsider living in a place that we felt was special, yet I am sure no one ever approached him to see who he was. Very sad ! I am also extending my sympathy to the family of Margie Trippett. I did not know her, but by all accounts she must have been a special person in the lives of many people on this site. Remember, if you influence one person in a lifetime, you have fulfilled your destiny !
Bob D'Angelo, NC '65 Marshall U '71 [03-22-2011]

Frank Westside: So true..we did leave "Germantown" of our own free will/and should have 'stuck it out'.Immaculate Conception Shrine, the beautiful stores, the Italian, Irish and Polish, etc. traditions COULD have all been preserved and handed down to our children, via our row homes..that were so special to us.Thanks for the 'wake up call'...Linda "F"
L.Fontana [03-22-2011]

Ray Dawes: It'll be great seeing you and your bro again...glad you can BOTH make it...Linda "F"
L.Fontana [03-22-2011]

John Payne: Very funny, I need a real 'head count'...not in spirit.(lol)
L.Fontana [03-22-2011]

Naomi: thanks for the confirmation of three...in your party .coming to LaFontana's...Linda "F"
L.Fontana [03-22-2011]

Duke, My husband and I are both Yearsly Alumni and now belong to Reilly Raiders..have a number of Old Yearsley folk in Reilly for..We practice at the Knights of Columbus in Glenside on Limekiln Pike This Saturday at 12 PM and check out the web http://www.reillyraiders.org/ for the whole schedule. I am not sure who you are looking for but I will introduce you to some of the older folk.. In the last year we have lost 2 old Yearsley Jim Hennisy and Dick Worst.. Jim's wife is active with us Peg.. she shared Yearsley Drum Majorette with Theresa.. We also lost Dave (PUNKY) Wise this past year from Yearsley.. Not sure if any of those names mean anything to you.. Email me.. Erda
Erda (Armstrong) Graham, From the Westside [03-22-2011]

Naomi, thank you for that answer. You cleared up some of the questions I had.
Gman [03-22-2011]

Found this site awhile ago and after bouncing around I found John payne who advised me that I can leave everyone a short message without putting them to sleep! I have started to communicate with many of you older guys and in time I hope to catch up with everyone. Keep in touch and stay well. John Fowler
John Fowler, Lancaster Pa/Millersville Area [03-22-2011]

Dennis Mc Glinchey Yes I do have happy memories of the old neigborhood. Boxing at the gtn. boys club,swimming ay the pool naked. going to the New Lyric movies on Sat. afternoons.Was able to go after I earned the money by going junking,old newspapers,bottles and rags to the junkman on Collom St.Rember Bitners bakery on Gtn. Ave.and Wister st.Could go to Connie Mack stadium for 50 cents,knot hole gang.Yes I am one who left Gtn. after army service met a Trenton girl and moved to N.j.Such a great neigborhood to be raised on. Bill Leonardo
Bill Leonardo [03-22-2011]

Changed our Facebook page name from GBC and Indiandale to Germantown Boys Club and Camp Indiandale to make it show up in searches better.The user name and link remain the same. Thank you to all those who have visited the page and "liked" it, and a special thanks to those who have contributed. http://www.facebook.com/GBC.Indiandale
John Kazalonis [03-22-2011]

John Payne, no worries mate. AS J.P. Donleavy wrote in his brilliant 'The Gingerman'... "a pint of plain is yer only man"! And whyever not? I would have expected all Irishmen and women to have a few jars as it was St. Paddy's Day, or the day after,when the 'hair of the dog' is required.
Jim McKernan, St. Vincent De Paul Grammar School, 1959 [03-22-2011]

Does anybody know the whereabouts of Louis (Fly) Corrado? Also any status on Brother (Charles) Prozzillo?
anonymous [03-22-2011]

John Payne, oh so well said.... As a practicing Catholic, I have encountered so much anger against Catholicism, in life, in posting boards, etc. It seems to be most keen with former Catholics….. My point to them has always been, if Catholicism does not work for you, go find what does work for you…. Instead of wallowing in anger, which is so pointless, find the peace within however way it comes, even if it comes from a belief in nothing. Life is too short….
Dennis McGlinchey, Born & raised in East Germantown [03-22-2011]

When are you GTN bloggers going to learn or understand that arguing & discussing relgion & politics is a no win situation.You can never sway people from what they believe in thier hearts & minds.Again, you can argue & disagree,but you'll never change thier minds. Lou Giorno
lou giorno, Lou NECHS 53 [03-22-2011]

The only problem I have with Catholicism is that Catholics think everybody is or should be Catholic. When you say you're not, you get one of those "what a shame" looks. In fact, I actually had somebody say that to me! It kind of makes me want to be just as rude to them.
anonymous [03-22-2011]

Linda Fontana: This site is getting more interesting by the day with religious comentary from Bill Cupo,Dennis McGlinchey,John Fleming, and Dan Hartnett interjecting the connection between relationships and religion. Your comments about spirituality really resonated with me. You posited a profound and rhetorical question about how people meet. I met my wife,Ludmila, in Princeton,NJ, a bastion of liberal thinking. One might find it quite paradoxical that a Jesuit-educated Catholic from Germantown would connect so well with an Orthodox-Christian Professor from Argentina. Ludmila was born in Germany, my father did graduate work at The University of Berlin and I lived in Germany during the 60's. Ludmila grew up in Argentina and I had a former girl-friend who had worked for The US in Buenos Aires. I knew a lot about Argentine-culture and music before I met my wife. I studied Caesar and I learned that Gaul had 3 provinces and I never wanted to be provincial. Smooth talking Irishmen like Sony Kennedy and Jack Brogan,along with Paul Borian who could out-talk an Irish-men, ruled at Happy Hollow where many nice ladies hung out. A reserved guy like me had no chance. You have been reading posts from Joe Lynch. He along with Bob Kephart had the ladies infatuated at Fernhill. Obviously, I just played ball at The Park. At Wagner's Ballroom, Tom Cusack and Al Patrizi ruled. I had to venture East of Broad where I met some interesting women, some of whom were Ukrainian. I learned about The Ukrainian culture at any early age. At GBC, Mr. Rigg's interest in Indians must have permeated the air since I got hooked on Indian culture and Ludmila was a student of The Indians of The Americas. Our mutual friend, Dan Hartnett used the word Zeitgeist in his previous blog and I can tell you there was an element of Zeitgeist in our relationship. Coming from Latin America and being Ukrainian, Ludmila liked to dance. I'm no Cusack, but I am a Germantowner and we like to dance. I grew up in G-town which is 5,000 miles from Buenos Aires but we connected spiritually,emotionally,and intellectually. There is a reception at Rider University on April 19 at 4:30, you and our fellow Germantowners are cordially invited. If our theologian-friend[Dan Hartnett] attends,we must order some good wine.
J.Bruce Schmitt [03-22-2011]

Frank Westside: [But, we might all ask ourselves the same question - why did all our families move out of Germantown ?] There are a few sociological reasons why this took place, mostly families wanting a better way of life, then living in a one bathroom row house in Philly. For many years families didn't have much of a choice as the suburbs were still rural areas. After WWII with all the returning GI's, automobiles being more affordable and Levitt developing planned communities with affordable housing, shopping centers etc, the exodus began. Folks enjoyed the benefits of having 2 bathrooms, driveways to park their cars and barbecues on the weekend. As my generation of baby boomers became more influential, the growth of the suburbs grew at an amazing pace. Even the major Department Stores opened in the suburbs. I would also be remiss if I didn't mention "white flight" as a factor. Back then "Blockbuster" was not a term for a place to rent movies.
John Fleming, Tampa Bay, Florida CD'62 [03-22-2011]

Joe Lynch: I am not being judgmental. I always subscribe to the saying, yes another "old one", you go to your church and I will go to mine, and my case, its not church. I don't feel its necessary to go to a building nor follow man made rules to enter into eternal happiness. I did find it interesting that you didn't defend the existence of cafeteria/buffet Catholics. If you find joy and peace of mind by going to Church and following those doctrines you find to your liking then I say unto you; Pax Vobiscum
John Fleming, Tampa Bay, Florida CD'62 [03-22-2011]

Bill Cupo: I am not trying to be contrary but I noted your comment suggesting religion and war. The 20th century was the bloodiest in history. The forces behind it were militarism, Communism and Nazism. Communism and Nazism were both atheistic. Most authoritative sources will attribute about 160 million deaths to communism alone.
Dan Hartnett, Former East Germantown [03-22-2011]

John Fleming: It is a very fair question you ask "Why do people find Jesus only when they hit rock bottom"? I didn't see it so much as "finding Jesus", but rather finding the Catholic manifestation of him, as I had gotten to avoidance but not outright denial. To more directly answer your question though, it is because traumatic events can concentrate the mind and can cause you to face up to essential questions that you no longer have the luxury of avoiding. The best example of course is impending death. Some may rethink the larger questions of life as a practical matter and will consider Pascal's Wager. Others will understand that they want to know the truth of it no matter where it leads and deal with it as such, as was my case.
Dan Hartnett, Former East Germantown [03-22-2011]

JBS> Thanks for the good wishes on St. Patrick's day. I need all the luck I can get. A passing acquaintance of mine who is about fifteen years my senior was raised in an Irish Orphanage, which lends to the authenticity of the following anecdote. While passing each other one day, I said, "top of the morning to you", to which she responded, "And the rest of the day to you sir". When asked about that response, she told me that was a very typical response to the phrase I had used. So, put that in your things to know journal. On a sadder note, I was very sorry to hear about Margie Tippet passing. Que Bonita! She was a beauty in more ways than one. While her physical beauty was enough to cause any ten to sixty year old to have his heart skip a beat, she was even more of a beauty in her interactions with everyone. I don't recall a time when Margie was not smiling and pleasant. My last contact with Marge was at my sister Pat's funeral last year; and while she was more petite or frail than I remember, the same sparkle eminated from her when we chatted. May she rest in peace. As for your own soul mate, I was very impressed when reading your account of her credentials, and her passion for life via art, which no doubt was a gift from her father, the sculpter. You are a lucky man to have spent the years you did with her. Lastly, as for my vocabulary and/or typing gaffs, this worked out well, as I got to learn a new word, "yeaning", which is indeed a word, which brings us to the word, serendipity. Muchas Gracias.
John Payne [03-22-2011]

Margie Pio> LOL re: your altered boy, Rich.
John Payne [03-22-2011]

Margie Tippett died. It is difficult for me to get my mind around that. I've been thinking of how to describe her as a teenager but, the cliches come one on top of the other. Beatiful blonde doesn't capture Margie Tippett. Friendly, honest, open. She was all of these and more. She was like a sunny day. One time Monk McCauley and I convinced her that she could make the Olympics as a shot putter. I was on the track team at school and so was Monk, and what could be so hard about coaching the shot putt anyway? We talked her into a practice session out in left field at Happy Hollow one warm spring afternoon. We were directly under the "Danger, Keep Off" skull guy up on "The Rocks." The best part of this deal was the opportunity to hang out with the most beautiful girl in the neighborhood of course, but she didn't seem to know that. We had a shot putt and I showed her how to throw the thing while Monk was out toward center field measuring each attempt. Margie threw that lead ball high and far. Monk yelled, "You're already better than the CYO Champion. Now, one last try." Just as Margie released that last try Monk was still measuring. He lifted his head and at that instant the shot flew between his knees and plunked down two feet behind him. If he hadn't lifted his head at that moment, we'd have had a dead Monk on our hands. As it was Monk was as white as the skull guy. Margie retired from the shot putt that day. We all did. Rest in Peace, Margie.
Jack Brogan, She ain't skinny. She's tall. That's all. [03-20-2011]

Hello G-towners! To Dennis McGlinchey especially; I didn't think my post was an angry one directed at the Catholic church; I'm not angry at the church or the priests or nuns that taught me. In fact, Fr. James Dorr of Immaculate was one of the most influential people in my life, the others being my dad and my brother-in-law. I'm merely stating that I'm no longer interested in anything that has to do with religion. It causes too many problems in the world including war. I was responding to the post about being an altar boy and I guess I vented a little too much. Immaculate in Germantown was and still is a beautiful church that I have fond memories of. I served many a Mass there along with weddings and funerals. Weddings were my favorite. It was a sure thing to get $5 from the bride and groom. They usually sent an envelope back to the sanctuary with money in it to be split between the altar boys. My favorite wedding was the one I served where my sister Lorraine and brother-in-law Dan were married. I served that wedding with my cousin Dom in November of 1962. That wedding almost didn't take place because my brother-in-law was in the Marine Corp and was being discharged when the Cuban missle crisis broke out. He was finally allowed to be discharged in time for the wedding. Funerals were another story. They were depressing to say the least. If I remember correctly, 4 altar boys were needed to serve Mass at a funeral. I remember during the part of the Mass when you had to change this huge book to the left of the priest and this book sat on a wooden rack that just added to the misery. One of the altar boys tripped on his cassock and dropped the book and the rack it was on then fell down a couple of steps. Needless to say I was laughing while most of the people in the church were crying. There was another incident when the guy holding the incense, spilled the contents on the Persian rug and tried to pick up the hot piece of coal and the ash with his bare hand because it was burning a hole in that rug. My fondest memory of being an altar boy were the picnics that Fr.Dorr took us on. In 1964 we went to Washington D.C., not long after the assasination of JFK. His grave still had not been finsihed; the only thing there was the eternal flame and the hats of all the services placed on a big mound of dirt. Very moving! We also went to Fisher's Pools a couple of times as well as West Point Park. Anyway, I hope this post was a little lighter than my last one and I'll get back to the memories of Haines st and Germantown. Take care!
Bill Cupo, Immaculate and C.D. grad/Chalfont,Pa. [03-20-2011]

John says (March 18), with some disdain, that there are too many of us who are "Cafeteria Catholics, going through the motions of Sunday morning mass, picking and choosing doctrines that suit us. We select our beliefs in some buffet line, which doesn't really, to John, make us Catholics at all. We stand in a garage, so we think we are automobiles (old analogy); that is, we go to church, so we think we are Catholics. He, on the other hand, has seen the Way, the Truth and the Life, and so he can comment on the spiritual lives of disaffected, seemingly bored Catholics. I, myself, have a lot of respect for pagans, atheists, these "fallen away" Catholics and other pilgrims on the road to Kingdom Come, regardless of their path. WHO ISN'T ON THE ROAD GOD WANTS HIM/HER TO BE ON? This is my way of looking at things. "Upright Catholics" are often in-your-face and all to ready to judge others. I myself fight to take that plank out of my eye before I judge others. "Be kind because everyone you meet is having a tough day."
Joe Lynch/Imprimatur/Nihil Obstat [03-20-2011]

To Jim Smith, Thanks for the shout out for Irish families. Rosaleen MC WILLIAMS Rotondi
rose mcwilliams, rockledge [03-20-2011]

Wow, a lot of angst ridden folks out there, particularly concerning the topic of catholicism. I think you either have the "faith" or you don't. If so, good for you; be at peace, be smug even, in that you have arrived at the answer. If you do not have, or have never had the "faith", let it go. You need not talk someone else out of whatever it is that gives them solace. It took me a while to get here, but I am a lot more comfortable now. No more need for anger, or defensiveness. The Desiderata prayer still does it for me.
John Payne, ...my way or the highway... [03-20-2011]

Some people are using this site like an email message to thier friends--I say, email your friends and stop using this site like an email- we are tired of reading your non-GTN correspondence to your friends. Lou Giorno
lou giorno, Lou NECHS 53 [03-20-2011]

Del Conner. Well hello. While I was talking to the President of the Aubury Aboreutum, your name came up. My wife and I were attending a recent talk and slide show about that famous Quaker enclave. I recall helping to incorporate your Pennsylvania Fireback business years ago. Your Great Oak fireback is a classic. Also, your love of historic houses is well regarded and appreciated. Now you are with another involved with another notable home in Society Hill. We have a caretaker for historic house in Fairmount Park we are involved with. He is also an artist and art teacher, working with metals, too. Salrut!
T Michael Poxon, EastOakLane [03-20-2011]

John Payne, Rich is correct, he is an altered boy...
Margie Pio, sfa 64 lf 68 [03-20-2011]

I'm sadden to hear of the passing of Margie Tippett.May she find peace and happiness in heaven.Dom RAFF 99 bottles of beer on the wall and so on
dom raff, same [03-20-2011]

remember delmar morris, darrows drug store. chelten and morris. allens dept. store. flaicos resturant on chelten ave. cherries dept. store. painting holloween pictures on store windows.
dottie g [03-20-2011]

Hello Gtn-towners Years ago I took a ride with a friend to see the old neighborhood....It sure has changed The house my family lived in on Stafford St burned to the ground. It was so strange to see NOTHING where our row home stood. Talk about a hole..It took me a long time to get over that one. Thank God, we still have the memories of good old Germantown.
Naomi Vitelli [03-20-2011]

Linda Fontana, My 2 sisters will be coming to the luncheon we me on May 1st. Thanks.
Naomi Vitelli [03-20-2011]

G-man, Hi, I lived on W. Woodlawn Sreet near Chelten & Morris. In the early 60's we moved to E. Stafford Street. Joe Gallo's mother was a Vitelli-Joe G. changed his name to Vitelli. Peter Vitelli -was married to my mother Anna Biehl Vitelli. Joe, Donald, Tony, Raymond are cousins....a large family.....
Naomi Vitelli [03-20-2011]

Linda F. did you need confirmation on males who will be attending in spirt, or only those who will be in person. :)
John Payne, If you cook it, they will come.... [03-20-2011]

linda the dawes brothers plan to be there May 1.
Ray Dawes, St Francis 1957 NC 59 Gtn 61 [03-20-2011]

SCHMITTY-------- FRANK WESTSIDE is not me. I'm not the Anonymous type. GOD be with dear Margie Tippet and all her loved ones. Frank Klock.
FRANK KLOCK [03-20-2011]

does anyone remember Albie Deems
anonymous [03-20-2011]

Del,did you have a older brother Allen? we use to cruise Ridge ave. on week ends and hung out at Rich's gulf at manhiem / wissahickon and we also would go to atco and race your father's volvo ( believe it or not ). Hope he is doing well. Do you still sketch the flinstones? Erringer pl. is one of the rare streets that still looks respectable in g-town.
Rich Patrizi, sfa'64 nc'68 living in south jersey [03-20-2011]

Wow, St. Patrick's Day has given the Blog some confessions and admissions of guilt, which we Catholics are good at. I think the Blog can hold it. "You Can Go Your Own Way," is a song by Fleetwood Mac. Live it. Learn it. Love it.
Joe Lynch,/ Et intro ibo ad altare Dei. . . [03-20-2011]

Happy spring to one and all! Personally,I am not ready to put away the ski's,and start up the lawnmower.I am not ready to apply crabgrass preventer on my lawn.BEWARE THE IDES OF MARCH.I sense cold and snow to return to the Pocono's next week.I am all psyched up! "It aint over till it's over"....Paul Borian
Paul Borian, Rockin Robin has returned to the old oak tree outside my window....Tweet,Tweet. [03-20-2011]

Mike Deely: It is great to have an East Germantowner from St. Benny's blog on this site- Fox News would say that this site should be fair and balanced. You are correct that I went to The Jesuit High School at 17th&Girard-The Prep. You are friends with The Gannon Family and Rich Gannon was one of the great football players from The Prep. He played in The Super Bowl for The Oakland Raiders. I understand that he has A Charitable Foundation and is very connected with His Faith. His Athletic Director was my classmate- Jim Murray from Germantown. Another classmate and friend is Rev. George Bur S. J. who is The President of The Prep. Many members of my family went there including my Father,Urban, who taught there. I do not bring up the name of my High School all the time since some of the bloggers on this site toss sarchastic darts- they call this advanced sport-nutting. They probaly learned about this fascinating game when they read Freud. With your background in theology and teleology,you posited an interesting question-Where are you situated? I surmise that this is a geographical question and not a question of morality and ethics. I believe that St. Augustine was one of the first theologians to delve into situation-ethics. I have heard Jesuits talk about this topic. I live in Lawrenceville NJ, which is where Rider University is located. Michael Poxon mentioned that he will attend the Reception for my wife,Ludmila, at Rider University on April 19, at 4:30. He would like to meet you and you could tell him about the significance of Catholic Parishes in Philadelphia-What Parish Are You From? I went to SFA and I never became an Altar or Choir Boy but I liked my clasmates since they were good people. It was extrordinary how the nuns could control such large classes. I am also impressed with the talented writers on this site and many of them were taught by the good nuns. At St. Francis, Sister Grace comes to mind. I hope Father John is doing well and the situation is under control in Tokyo.
J.Bruce Schmitt [03-20-2011]

Jim McKernan; The senior moments persist. I tried to write a post to you about the "victrola", and some how I managed to sign it with your name. One might think I was imbibing in a bit of the brew, alas, not so.
John Payne, I guess I need to fosuc, fusoc, FOCUS. [03-20-2011]

Bill Cupo; Angry at your parents for sending you to Catholic School???? I think not. I would think that they like most of our parents at the time, thought they were doing the best and right thing for you, at the time. It was at a time that most of them bought into what Catholicism was all about. It was our generation, mainly the baby boomers, that started to think for ourselves, and not go along "with the program". Speaking for myself, they really never "got me". Yes I went along with the program for 12 years, because it was the easiest thing to do. I was never really a "rebel", in my life, but I didn't follow blindly. After high school, I just simply slowed faded away, with no guilt or fear. I try to live a good life, and hopefully if there is an after life, I will get a just reward. I guess I am more or less of follower of Pascal's Wager.
John Fleming, Tampa Bay, Florida CD'62 [03-20-2011]

Dan Hartnett: Interesting read about your "Journey Home" back to Catholicism. The one question I have always had, why is usually only when people hit rock bottom do they "find" Jesus and become born again? I am not being skeptical and glad for those that have found solace and comfort in Catholicism or any religion. At least their faith and belief is real, rather then the vast majority that follow blindly out of fear.
John Fleming, Tampa Bay, Florida CD'62 [03-20-2011]

Linda: What nice memories of St. Josephs Day and the homemade ravoli and other treats.
HLD [03-20-2011]

Bernie: Happy to hear of your recent good check up at Sloan Kettering. I know that drill well - made the trip with my husband for many years and it's a great feeling after hearing good news to walk out of the hospital and onto the street and find a little place to eat. I'd say you had a fine St. Patricks Day! Good health to you.
HLD [03-20-2011]

I believe we al agree that Germantown sure is not how we remember it based on individual visits back to the Old Neighborhood. But, we might all ask ourselves the same question - why did all our families move out of Germantown ? II have my own opinion but maybe we should all consider our own reasons. We "loved" Germantown but no one stayed. Unless your job took you to another state - exactly why did you move ? We left now we mourn the condition of our old neighborhood. Hey - most all of us ran way from it so maybe we are as much to blame for the end result.
Frank Westside [03-20-2011]

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