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April 11-16, 2010


The defensive ranting that has appeared recently regarding brains, and credentials, and all things respectable got me to thinking of some great movies: First, The Godfather, and Fredo's line where he says, "I'M SMART!...NOT LIKE EVERYBODY THINKS", lol, what a great line, and a great delivery. He delivered pathetic as well as I have ever seen...until now. Then there was The Wizard of Oz, and the brilliance displayed by the scarecrow when he detailed what was needed to be brave, a medal, or "smart", a degree or certificate, etc. Me thinks the scarecrow was on to something.
John Payne [04-16-2010]

>Bill James: You are correct about our ages. I am in fact five years older than you (66). I just cannot believe that I do not remember your name. That is not really that much of an age gap, especially for folks from The Hollow. I'm probably experiencing a senior moment, LOL. Anyway, I'm glad you liked my description of the steps. Reading the posts on this site brings a lot of those kinds of memories to the fore for me. This is a nice site to visit.
John Payne [04-16-2010]

Jim, the C word is offensive to ladies and also considered quite immature for an adult man to use. Maybe in Ireland it is acceptable, but none of us are in Ireland. Funny, but I've known many Irish people and never heard such a claim...but I could be wrong. If it is true, Im sure that it is the same there as it is here, A GUY THING!...to belept among the guys and not shared with ladies. You know this as you were raised in the USA. As a woman who has self respect and respect others, I am asking that you not defend your use of that word or blame it on the Irish, rather that you simply admit to yourself that you reacted with disrespect. Everybody reacts and sometimes we kind of lose it when we do. It's time to simmer down and be a part of the group.
anonymous [04-16-2010]

I haven’t given much thought to G-town until over a year ago, when visiting my sister, Alice, in Fairless Hills over the 2008 Christmas holidays; I decided we should take a ride through the old neighborhood. Boy, did it bring back memories, such as, “Peruzzi’s Wall” (not sure of spelling), the old abandon mansion at the corner of Clapier & Erringer that we use to explore before it was torn down & made apartments, the smell of “honeysuckle” flowers on the fence of the house at the corner of Clapier and Morris Street when walking to & from St Francis of Assisi uphill both ways and, last but not least, Fernhill Park and “Dead men’s Hill”.
Bob Boyle [04-16-2010]

Dr. McKernan or is it Professor...lets just say JIM, Why don't you try to be civil on this web site and you may get along. In my opinion, When one uses bad language, make threats to people he does not know and talks below his so-called educational station, I would tag him as foolish...if nothing else. In my opinion, you have 3 options - either speak like the educated person you claim to be (Quite a number of times), continue with the rhetoric and face the ridicule you ask for, or sign off. I find most of the rhetoric boring and repetitive. I do not know you, so I have NO OPINION of you personally. Nick V
Nick Viglianese, 67 [04-16-2010]

I would like to have directions to the Philadelphia National Cemetery where I believe my relative is buried. He was a veteran of the Civil War.
Beatrice McKenney, Great Grand Daughter looking for Gravesite [04-16-2010]

Hey interested bystander lawyer, why did you sign "anon"?
anthonyg [04-16-2010]

For those who remember Pretzel Pete (hotta pretzels, coldda mustard!), if you belong to Facebook, there is a group dedicated to him there with almost 800 members. That number amazes me, and I joined myself. The group name is "I Miss Pretzel Pete". There are photos of him (taken from the rear), his refurbished cart, and his gravestone. Go there and search on "I Miss Pretzel Pete" or here is the link: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=173013622238&v=info#!/group.php?gid=173013622238
Dennis McGlinchey, Born & raised in East Germantown [04-16-2010]

Billy Fitzgerald I think the restaurant was named Al Brother's on Germantown Ave right below Wister St.
patty [04-16-2010]

To The Rose's, both of you: Yes, the Prof. did come onto my work site with threats of law suits. I am now off of this site.as,it has become a haven for 'venting' rather than it used to be/ light hearted comments about the good old days in "G" town.So, that having been said. I will see everyone at La Fontana's on May 16 @ 1:00 p.m. Thank you, God bless all of you who write here: Respectfully, Linda "F".P.S. I am soon to be anon.
L.Fontana, Montgomeryville, Pa. [04-16-2010]

Did you ever hear" If you can't stand the heat in the kitchen, get out of the kitchen?
A Firefighter [04-16-2010]

erda your right ... i loved their water ice and the lemon was wonderful ... but so were those ladies who waited on us they were always so funny and kind and just generally very sweet to talk to! rosemarie ps are you going to be able to make it to la fontana's on the 16th of may? i hope so ... tell mike to come with you!
rosemarie hite malageri [04-16-2010]

To the Professor, you state you are blue collar then MAN UP and let things go, I think you have forgotten your roots. The C word used by you was offensive don't try and put a different spin on it.
doc, GTN 55yrs [04-16-2010]

Kevin McKernan: You are the voice of reason and obviously, a reasonable person. I and many people on this site, admire that laudable trait in you. However,I do need your help. Dan Hartnett and I were labeled with The C-Word. Yet, I have been called provocative by The Professor since I jested with D.H. that he was professorial-he is happy with himself and he does not want to be a Professor. Like Professors, Dan does like Fine Wine and we will probaly buy a bottle when we have lunch at LaFontana's on May 14. I thought that The C-Word was a misogynystic and offensive term,now I just learned that it is a euphemystic term in Ireland. However,we are in The US and the lovely ladies did not find this word-laudable. One must be careful with language. In my callow youth, I was imbibing in a bar in Chestnut Hill and a guy was getting on my fudging nerves. I commented that he was a fairy from Mount Airy-All Hell broke loose. This former paratrooper was no sizzy and a very formidable opponent.One must be very careful what one says to an Irishman. Jimmy Binns[lawyer] from Mt. Airy,would not like being labeled with The C-Word. Jimmy was not that big but he was very good with his hands and he is now an excellent lawyer. I hope that you got my drift- I do not want to be provocative since I am a seasoned citizen. I also want you to know that I do not have a problem with intellectuals and leftist Professors. On Tuesday,in Princeton,I attended a Funeral for Dr. Norman Stander,an intellectual and former union-activist. We were not commensurate in our economic and political thinking but we broke bread together. I am looking forward to reading your comments-you are a well-rounded guy and not full of blarney. Do you like The Celtic Women-They are awesome.
JBS [04-16-2010]

Man I need another Germantown site to visit....quick!
Ed, Chester, VA [04-16-2010]

john bruce schmitt ha ...tooooo funny ! of course you and dan hartnett and any one else are welcome we would be so happy to finally meet you guys ...i would anyway! but, it is may 16th a sunday 1pm at la fontana not the 14th ... be there ! rosemarie
rosemarie hite malageri [04-16-2010]

I wish to retract my last message to the Prof. What I called him was my own personal opinion and was no better or worse than his angry tirades on this website or the responses from all the like-minded on this website. Will he sue us all? He later asked to be forgiven because he was "not himself" that day. I was "not myself" either because of the profane slur, but I, too, am entitled to my opinion. My opinion was in answer to his angry and insulting blog and the profanity that started all this. Please, Professor, give it a rest. You expressed your opinion and so did we. We just didn't agree with you. Didn't know that was illegal. As to the anonymous lawyer, why not identify yourself. We would like to check you out in the Lawyers Diary.
Rosemarie Rinaldi [04-16-2010]

Unending Goo stories, Professor rants and legal threats, Rinaldi hysterics, attacks and cheap theatrics are starting to get old. Lets get back to what this was intended for, Your Germantown Thoughts.
anonymous [04-16-2010]

looking for lois lentz carol ferry paul wall kgn. class shaeffer school 1940-41.
lou giorno, n orth wales pa 74 [04-16-2010]

TO A FELLOW ANONYMOUS: I don't recall any Hollow guy calling Goo abusive. I think that was posted by someone from another neighborhood who did not know him personally, but was upset at all the Goo stories. Those of us who knew him will all agree that Goo was not abusive.
Anonymous [04-16-2010]

PROF: First of all, my name is not Rosemary - it's Rosemarie. Secondly, check back further and you will note that I did not call you a pompous a-hole. I have never used that term in my life and, in fact, do not use profanity at all. I subscribe to the nuns' teachings that you only use profanity when you don't have the vocabulary to use anything else. As for the "c" word and how it's used in Ireland - you are now in the U.S. Behave accordingly.
Rosemarie Rinaldi [04-16-2010]

On my 4/14 response to the Prof re: free speech, I mentioned that he prided himself as being on the right - I really meant on the left. I believe he previously stated that the left was right and that was the source of my typo. However, right or left, we are all entitled to free speech in this country.
Rosemarie R. [04-15-2010]

The Hollow guys have gone too far. "Goo" was not a person to acclaim. By their own admissions people who have reported him here have said he was abusive. A bully whacking kids is no hero. Let him go. If he couldn shoot a jump shot he couldnt play bball. Amen. Begone Goo.
anonymous [04-15-2010]

John Payne, I remember you but you were a couple 'old heads' above me. I'm 61. You description of Moe's steps was perfect. It was exactly still all that when we sat on them.
Bill James, The Head [04-15-2010]

Rosemarie: You mentioned that there is a Happening and Luncheon at La fontana's in Hatboro on May 14. All are invited. Does that include men and intellecuals like Dan Hartnett and the controversial JBS? We will be on our good behaviour and use proper language. We are a couple of seasoned citizens and are mellow-but not yellow.
John Bruce Schmitt [04-15-2010]

When did GOO DIED ? AND HOW OLD WAS HE ? FRANK .
frank margiotti, north wales [04-15-2010]

Schmitty....Well said about the late Robert Guarinello! When I discovered this wonderful webb site couple years ago and reconnected with you and many of my Hollow,Fernhill and Germantown friends,my one desire was to visit the Goo in Wildwood.It was too late.He passed away couple years earlier.I regret to this day not keeping in touch with Goo and my old time friends from Happy Days.Goo was our Fonz!The last time I saw him was at his wedding,an event that I thought would never take place.He loved Marian and was very happy on that eventful day..........Dennis McGlinchey..I don't know you but can tell from all of your numerous posts on this site that you are a good guy.With that said,trust me when I say you would have loved the Goo.He was one of a kind.If you had been a Hollow guy,you would be telling Hollow stories,just like me.......Paul Borian
Paul Borian [04-15-2010]

Ted Silary....To this day,I have never been able to figure out the dividing line between Gratz/Germantown territories.My sister went to Gillespie Jr. High and Gratz.I went to Gillespie and Germantown.Go figure.There were a lot of tough kids at Gratz in 1954 so I opted for Germantown,a great school with a lot of cool kids.I made that decision on my own because I did not want to follow Goo at Gratz and score more points than him. He would have slapped me upside the head and barred me from his playground forever.....Paul Borian
Paul Borian [04-15-2010]

Let me make this crystal clear. A number of folks have been saying defamatory things about me on this website. It will not be tolerated. My lawyer agrees with me. I see a message from Rosemary Rinaldi-who called me a pompous asshole...another by Paul Borian calling me a "Strap" which means the same thing and still another by Joe Taylor who resents I am a Full Professor. He is not. I wrote to these people by the email they supplied with this site. I told them I would make a legal complaint against damaging remarks made against me and running my character and reputation down-this is a civil property right we all hold. And you all who know me know I will do that. Because I stick up for Constitutional rights. You cannot go around calling people out in public and ruining their reputation. Yes I was offended by JBS and DH-who at least understands the situation. JBS should apologize for his provocation. He started this all and had agreement from Dan H. I do not agree with right wing Latin American solutions..none ever worked yet. Those who cause hurt are also liable for their remarks. The webmaster understands my claim. And why I was outraged. Today Dennis McGlinchey defamed me further calling me a "wire basket case" assuming that Linda was right-she is an hysterical person. Asking my family brothers to intervene saying I was a "basket wire case"-how dare he? -this was outrgageous, intrusive and offensive to me and my family. I have written him personally-his remarks I regard as an assault on my general character. I am also using this opportuity to explain the "C" remark. In Ireland any man who disses another man is called a "C". It is never in any manner meant to refer to women. But You are mostly Yanks and I am Irish. I understand how this is with language.But still I think our women understand my demeanour. For the lot-I am as well as can be expected by a man divorced by his high school love thrown into the Vietnam war (I volunteered when I had orders to serve in Europe) and then who decided to work in an Irish Civil War for near 10 years. I am a respected Professor in Ireland and here. I am disgusted that Germantowners can only call me a pompous ass. I am blue collar and have always worked for the working clas. I am not a communist I am a socialist. I have had enough of the hysterical women and men on this site but I warn them all BE CAREFUL of what you say about me. I have been nominated for honours in Ireland this year. If anyone says another defamatory remark aginst me or my family. You will be prosecuted. I am currently proceeding with prosecutions of those who made wrongful character comments. I hope you all get it. Prof. Jim McKernan
Dr Jim McKernan, Professor [04-15-2010]

Let me make this crystal clear. A number of folks have been saying defamatory things about me on this website. It will not be tolerated. My lawyer agrees with me. I see a message from Rosemary Rinaldi-who called me a pompous asshole...another by Paul Borian calling me a "Strap" which means the same thing and still another by Joe Taylor who resents I am a Full Professor. He is not. I wrote to these people by the email they supplied with this site. I told them I would make a legal complaint against damaging remarks made against me and running my character and reputation down-this is a civil property right we all hold. And you all who know me know I will do that. Because I stick up for Constitutional rights. You cannot go around calling people out in public and ruining their reputation. Yes I was offended by JBS and DH-who at least understands the situation. Those who cause hurt are also liable for their remarks. The webmaster understands my claim. And why I was outraged. Today Dennis McGlinchey defamed me further asking my family brothers to intervene saying I was a "basket wire case"-how dare he? -this was outrgageous, intrusive and offensive to me and my family. I have written him personally-his remarks I regard as an assault on my general character. I am also using this opportuity to explain the "C" remark. In Ireland any man who disses another man is called a "C". It is never in any manner meant to refer to women. But You are mostly Yanks and I am Irish. I understand how this is with language.But still I think our women understand my demeanour. For the lot-I am as well as can be expected by a man divorced by his high school love thrown into the Vietnam war (I volunteered when I had orders to serve in Europe) and then who decided to work in an Irish Civil War for near 10 years. I am a respected Professor in Ireland and here. I am disgusted that Germantowners can only call me a pompous ass. I am blue collar and have always worked for the working clas. I am not a communist I am a socialist. I have had enough of the hysterical women and men on this site but I warn them all BE CAREFUL of what you say about me. I have been nominated for honours in Ireland this year. If anyone says another defamatory remark aginst me or my family. You will be prosecuted. I am currently proceeding with prosecutions of those who made wrongful character comments. I hope you all get it. Prof. Jim McKernan
Dr Jim McKernan, Professor [04-15-2010]

Here's an obscure question. Does anyone remember the name of a small luncheonette on Germantown Avenue in the mid-60's? My father had a law office on Germantown Avenue back then and I remember going there a lot as a young boy. The thing that most sticks in my mind was the owner's dog, a Schnauzer named Max, hanging out at our table looking for pets and handouts. I'm, writing a memoir about my childhood and any help would be appreciated.
Billy Fitzpatrick, Born in Germantown in 1958 [04-15-2010]

linda fontana and rosemarie rinaldi i would hope that a lawsuit is not forthcoming ... and i really doubt there is ....i believe and again i hope that all parties involved were just blowing off steam and that will be the end of it .... i definitely donot like the word used and voiced that ... but, i do know the man who used it and believe he regrets using it and as far as his suing someone i would hope that this is again just more of letting off steam ... rosemarie
rosemarie hite malageri [04-15-2010]

Dennis McG: Can it be that the reason you wondered if Goo ended up in jail is because his last name ended in a vowel? He was never a criminal. If you remember the TV series, Happy Days, the Fonz never had to hit anyone, yet he was tough and intimidating. That was Goo. The difference: Goo was well-read, intelligent, funny and a poet and he never instigated a confrontation. He was always ready to help anyone out if he could. We bummed many a ride from him back in the day. Those of you who are tired of Goo stories and claim you have neighborhood characters of your own, please feel free to tell us about them. It would make for interesting reading. We took a lot of flak for posting Happy Hollow stories and now for Goo stories. Feel free to add your own - nothing is censored here. However, from what I've read, there is always the possibility of legal action, so I will just sign myself ...
Anonymous [04-15-2010]

ralph spagnolia - are you looking for relatives and/or friends of the former idle hour bar owner? was your father's name billy or junior?
anonymous [04-15-2010]

Sue this ! Keep it pithy.
G-man [04-15-2010]

Ralph's water ice was the best in Germantown.. The lemon has bits of lemon in it and was soooo refreshing on a hot summer night..
Erda, From the westside of Germantown [04-15-2010]

Couldn't resist any longer . . . I have scoring sheets for Public/Catholic basketball teams going back to the 1949-50 season. As a junior in '50, "Goo" scored 30 points in Pub games with a high of nine vs. Southern. The next year, he led the 4-11 Bulldogs with a 10.1 league average (15-152) and a high game of 20 vs. Northeast. (A guy named Jones likely would have finished as the team's leading scorer, but he must have been a mid-year graduate). Meanwhile, 20 guys scored for Germantown in the '52 season. Numerous mid-year guys and/or suspensions/dismissals, I'm guessing. Nah, Paul Borian wasn't among them (smile). He popped up for the '55 and '56 seasons. Fifty-four Pub points in '55, then 93 in '56 (high of 14 vs. Franklin). Just wondering, where was the supposed dividing line between Gratz/Germantown territories? Happy Hollow is closer to Gratz, even though it's in Germantown.
Ted Silary [04-14-2010]

To Jack Brogan: Well said in summing up Goo.
John Payne [04-14-2010]

When JFK was in Germantown he was at home.I have never have been impressed by seeing one person in my life as I was seeing JFK. The most memorable show biz people I saw was the Three Stooges at the Thrill Show at Municpal Stadium along with 100,000 other Philadephians
Steve Donohoe, 62 [04-14-2010]

Is this the Germantown website or the Goomantown website ? Enough Goo stories already ! Every neighborhood has at least one "character". You Hollow boys are not alone. You should have come over to the east side of Germantown Av once in a while to see some real characters !
Anon., Brickyarder [04-14-2010]

everyone .... please dont forget la fontana's on the 16th of may at 1pm ... we are looking forward to seeing all of you who can make it, rosemarie
rosemarie hite malageri [04-14-2010]

TO THE PROF: I checked back to my responses to you and cannot see any defamation of character in them - only opinions. An attorney would say that you opened the door. Don't dish it out if you can't take it (and you did dish it out). As for my saying that profanity is a sign of ignorance - that was taught to us by our grade school nuns/teachers. Their reasoning: you lack vocabulary if you have to resort to profanity. Do you want to take on the nuns as well? Which brings me to Goo and the Happy Hollow crowd: Never did we girls hear a profanity. The guys had too much respect. If for some reason a profanity slipped out, Goo would be the first one to say, "Watch your mouth." Or, "Hey, there are girls present." And, incidentally, Goo could intimidate, but that's all he had to do. If you check with the guys, he never hit anyone except in self-defense, and especially did not hit young kids. He could back you into the wall and threaten, but that was about all he needed to do. The guy was a gentle giant among men.
Rosemarie Rinaldi [04-14-2010]

Ted Silary, You are right about some guys that got the scholarships to La Salle and couldn't "cut the mustard". I knew a couple that came to CD in their sophomore year. Like yourself, I think it has to do with the logistics of the feeder parishes. In the early years, 1958-1962, CD had a great cross country team, basketball team and soccer team. I used to go to all the basketball games, and one great memory I have of a CD basketball team, is when they played Overbrook in a pre season game. Overbrook's starting five consisted of Wally Jones, Wayne Hightower and Walt Hazzard. During the pre game drills, Overbrook looked like a NBA team, and I knew CD was in for tough game. CD lost, but not by too much and held their own. I also go to see Matt Goukas Jr play for St Joes.
John Fleming, Tampa Bay, Florida [04-14-2010]

Reminder ­ Germantown's Immaculate Conception's next reunion is October 10, 2010 (10-10-10). We had over 450 attend our 2008 reunion, filling the Irish Center to capacity. We moved to a larger venue (Williamson’s in Horsham) with a capacity of 600. Details of what’s planned can be found on the IC Events webpage at http://www.friendsofimmaculate.com/ . If you are from IC or a friend of IC and not on the mailing list, send me an email. The reunion mailer will be sent out late June/early July. If you know of anyone who might be interested, please let them know about this reunion.
Dennis McGlinchey, Born & raised in East Germantown [04-14-2010]

Richy: For your information, Goo never beat up little kids, never carried a gun at any time in his life and never hurt animals. He was intelligent and fair. See one of his quotes on this site provided for your perusal by John Brogan (4/12/10): "You have the audacity to doubt my veracity, or to insinuate that I am a prevaricator; you are one of the most low and despicable human beings I have ever had the misfortune to cast my optics upon. So assemble your penigranium and pick up your cambium and I'll sell you a product guaranteed to never rust, gravel or gambit." Goo Goo, circa 1956. The guy was an avid reader and super-intelligent even without those paper degrees that some seem to worship.
Rosemarie R. [04-14-2010]

jimmy, god bless you! you know no matter what ... at the end of the day you are my friend and always will be! love ya rosemarie
rosemarie hite malageri [04-14-2010]

Paul Borian/Tom Cusack/John Brogan - thanks for your posts shedding some light and explanation on Goo. It gives, me at least, a better sense of who he was, what he was about, why he did the things he did, etc. But, have to admit, I still have reservations. I suppose, as you say, I would had to have known him to fully understand and share the admiration and respect you feel for him. BTW, to be honest, when I asked how he turned out in adult life, I was expecting to hear he died in jail. That was where my impression was with the guy. You have to know that, when these stories come out and all those that knew him here laugh it off as “Goo being Goo”, folks who didn’t know him and his ways are getting a completely different impression.
Dennis McGlinchey, Born & raised in East Germantown [04-14-2010]

Professor McKernan, if what Linda Fontana is saying is true, you really need to stop your nonsense and get your act together. Your recent tyrade here wasn't your first here. And, probably won't be your last. You offended a lot of people here with that ranting post. Regardless of what went on that day in your life to upset your emotional equilibrium, fact is, you offended a lot of people here. With your widely self-proclaimed intelligence level, you should have the wisdom to know your apology should have closed your door on that episode. Why didn't it???? Maybe you're not so smart afterall. If what Linda says is true, you are an out-of-control live wire basket case. To all that I read here through the years, the McKernans of Germantown were a much-respected family. I know your brothers come to this blog. Yo guys, can't you help your brother?????
Dennis McGlinchey, Born & raised in East Germantown [04-14-2010]

Hey Prof: You're so smart - did you mean the brown bread was "slaughtered" with brown ale? Surely you know that the word is "slathered". But then again, what do I know? I'm signing as "anonymous" because I don't want to get sued.
Anonymous [04-14-2010]

TO L. FONTANA: Thanks for the heads-up re: a potential lawsuit against us "Rosemaries" from Prof McKernan. (No lawsuit against the men on this site who dissed him? Gender bias from the professor? Say it ain't so.) I would like to know the basis for his perceived claim of defamation of character since he was the one who "defamed" Dan Hartnett and JBS in the first place. Doesn't that count? He was also the one who "defamed" all women with his use of the "c" word. Will he say it was his freedom of speech? He should know that that freedom of speech works both ways. I worked as a legal secretary for many years and I can see this 'lawsuit' being thrown out as frivolous. I cannot believe that the man can spout such venom and when challenged, can be so offended and juvenile. And this from a professor! He prides himself as being on the "right" - does that mean that the "right" doesn't believe in freedom of speech or is that a leftist idealogy? As for his using your work webpage, isn't that harassment?
Rosemarie Rinaldi [04-14-2010]

One final defense of Goo: If you read the stories correctly, you will note that the younger guys dreamed up ways to "push his buttons", so for my money, anything they got, they asked for. As for the backhand, read further and you will find out it was with a soft cloth. Nothing to really hurt you. My recollection of Goo is his intelligence, humor and the fact that he would help you out anytime you needed it. As for his future endeavors, he managed and owned several restaurants, married, but had no children. He also had respect for women; I personally never heard profanity from his mouth. What the guys said among themselves never reached the ears of us girls. The Hollow guys were not wimps, but they had respect for ladies.
Rosemarie Rinaldi [04-14-2010]

hi gregg your comment wasnt taken as such ... but, like you i am entitled to share my thoughts ... however, with this being said it is good to hear from you and to see you are still alive and kicking, rosemarie
rosemarie hite malageri [04-14-2010]

Paul Borian: You and your buddies from The Hollow did a great job describing and defending Goo. I only knew Goo for 5 years and he was an unforgettable character. He took quarters from me when we shot for money. He never missed his 2-hand set and he grumbled when I told him that was no jump-shot. He retorted,"That's the way that I do it." He was always friendly and I never thought that he was a bully. He had runners for soda and I never played that game. My take on The Goo was that he was colorful and very human with some warts like most of us. "May Robert Goo Guarinello Rest In Eternal Peace"
Schmitty [04-14-2010]

Ralph Spagnolia did they call you Chipper and do you have a sister they called Sissy?
HELEN LEONE D'ANGELO [04-14-2010]

What is this Goos last name & age.Gregg Striano I was sticking up for you do not recall BO & I.Marie BOMMENTRE
marie bommentre [04-14-2010]

Hey Ted Silary ! Always good to hear from you on this site. I played baseball every day in the summer when school was out in Awbury park. We could always get 12-15 kids to play. That certaintly helped me develop into a pretty good player when I went into organized sandlot ball with the East Germantown Atoms and later the Ogontz Boys club. We had some really good ball players as you well know; Joe Dollinger, Charlie Sumpter, Billy Fagan, Danny Ellis, Vern Streck, etc. I played for 8 years in those organizations and my biggest thrill was making the all-star teams in 1965 and 1966. We played the 1965 game for the "Junior B" all stars at the Feltonville playground and I was fortunate to have made some good defensive plays at second base and had a couple of hits and a sacrifice bunt. I was later awarded the MVP for that effort. The following year was by far my biggest thrill; we played the "Junior A" game at Connie Mack Stadium. Again, myself, Vern Streck, Joe Dollinger and Charlie Sumpter started that game. What a shrine that place was; we got to use the visitor's locker room, we met Bobby Wine who was on the DL, and John Quinn, the Phillies GM, was sitting in the stands scouting all the players. They used the P.A. system to introduce us all and the echo of that thing was incredible because the stadium was only holding about 500 people that day. I still have the team photo of that day, and we were posed in front of the Ballantine scoreboard. It's hanging in my basement with all my baseball momentos. The Atoms played at Anderson playground on Chelten Ave, the home of the semi-pro Bombers. We loved that field didn't we Ted; all fenced in with light towers for night games. When I joined the Ogontz club, we played our games at Simon's playground(we called it Rodney playground)in West Oak Lane and later when we were in the Senior league, we played our games at 19th and Cheltenham behind a shopping center that had a great billiard parlor. My biggest regret was not playing for Cardinal Dougherty's team in 1968 or 1969; they won the city championship with guys I used to play against or with. I didn't play because I wanted to stay in the Ogontz organization because our team was so good and I was used to playing with the guys I mentioned. I think we would have held our own against Dougherty. Anyway, those were great days. I would love to see you at the I.C. reunion on October 10 at Williamson's in Horsham and relive some great memories of us in Germantown. Any chance you can make that? Pete Coyle will be there I know; we usuallly go to these things. It's not restricted to I.C. grads, but for Germantowners as well. There will only be 600 tickets for sale I understand,so if you're going, make sure to contact Pete and let him know. Take care of yourself and let me know if you find a good wiffle ball game; I'll get there and show off my "floater" pitch; still have it in my arsenal.
Bill Cupo, Immaculate and C.D. grad/Chalfont,Pa. [04-14-2010]

Hey Anon....Yogi is in the Hall of Fame.End of story ! By the way,I am in the top ten of all-time Yankee Haters.I rather be with the Satan then in Yankee pinstripes.....Paul Borian
Paul Borian [04-14-2010]

John Payne....Your description of Moe's steps was simply brilliant.I could not have portrayed that place in heaven any better.Thanks.....Paul Borian
Paul Borian [04-14-2010]

As an interested bystander I must say that Linda Fontana's blog deserves scrutiny. Yes the Prof has been defamed on this site and yes he has the right to protect his reputation. People here think they can say whatever they like but if it is defamtory--like calling the Prof foul things they better be ready to handle his complaint in court I am a lawyer
anon [04-14-2010]

Come on you guys forget about wiffle ball, lets get a half ball game going.
Richard Pio, Ocala, Fl. area. 59 born and bred in G-Town 1950-1995 [04-14-2010]

My name is Ralph Savatore Spagnolia. My grandfather was "Rams" Ralph Spagnolia he owned the IdleHour tap room, and the Ralph's water ice stand which was located at cheltem and bayton st. I would love know if there is anyone who knew him personaly. My father name was "Young Rams" William Spagnolia. I am glad to hear that my family has many memories to the people of Germantown back then. If anyone did know my family personaly email some stories to my e-address listed. Thanks
Ralph Salvatore Spagnolia, family [04-12-2010]

Charlie Scanzello, are you a former police officer? That name just hit me from my days in the court system.
anthonyg [04-12-2010]

To Bor: Those four steps, and the porch threshold above them,(outside the enclosed porch attached Moe's) hold a lot of history. Over the years they were a cafe table, as in the case of you and Goo with the dozen donoughts; a lookout post for someone to watch for car 143 or 144 when a crap game was in session; certainly a sub-station of the library, where the Philadelphia Bulletin and Inquirer were disected, discussed and discarded; a field office for the numerous Turf Accountants who perused the Daily Telegraph, looking for that subtle mismatch that could be turned into a payday; a sportcaster's booth wherein the day's sporting events were announced, predicted, and handicapped; a counsellor's office for all matters financial, laborious, religious, and romantic; and finally, a box seat where a guy could hang; observe the passers by, and just take in a small slice of life at a brief moment in time. A safe place.
johnpayne [04-12-2010]

JFK rode thru Germantown in 1959 sitting on the top of the back seat of a convertible. The motorcade came South on Greene St. and turned onto Chelten Ave. going West towards Gtn. Ave. When I saw him he was very young looking and this was prior to the close election in Nov.
Dave, Live in 59' [04-12-2010]

Rosemarie Rinaldi: & Rosemarie hite-Malageri: Just want you BOTH to know that anything you have said re: Prof.McK's writings here is now being targeted by him for potential law encounters. He has threatened to sue for defamation of character. He even went onto my personal work webpage and stated this. Also, if he re-reads what I wrote, he will have to agree that there was no slander there. It is my freedom of speech (right) in the wonderful Country of the USA..to feel offended by the use of profanity regarding women or men. thank you, LAF P>S> I will further have the Techs here block the Prof's emails to me from this day forward.
L.Fontana, Montgomeryville, Pa. [04-12-2010]

To Paul Borian. Yogi Berra was not a "great" player as you pertain. His batting avg-the usual measure of success was low and nowhere near the magic mark of 300. What we love about Yogi was his wit-a stupid, dry, ghetto mind. That is reason enough to aplaud him-please do not applaud his baseball accolades they were few.
Anon [04-12-2010]

FFK: You didn't need to be there for the Goo smack down; you were present for the trolley car K.O. on the way back from a basketball game. (the "He killed Joey" incident with the sailor.
John Payne [04-12-2010]

Upon researching my ancestry I found that Col. Isaac Franks is my great x5 grandfather.
Diann Franks, I'm an artist,photographer, musician& history buff [04-12-2010]

Is anyone else sick of hearing about "Goo"? I find the stories a legend of the Myth...variety/sort. This big fat guy whose was a real "A-hole" from the conquests that some love here-what idiots... does not need adulation. It speaks for itself. No more Goo it is as nasty as 'Poo'.
Anonymous [04-12-2010]

Paul Borian: During Holy Week,we heard about the sins of the professor and the holiness of Goo. Was Goo smarter than the professor? Was Goo braver than Gregg?Did he know numbers better than you and Dan MC. Did the ladies like and respect him.? Did he drop the f-bomb and c-note when the ladies were present? Did he really walk on water?
anonymous [04-12-2010]

rosemarie unless you are anonymous my comment was not for you. Gregg
gregg striano [04-12-2010]

FFK. Thanks for the kudos on the tunz.
john payne [04-12-2010]

Bor: I was in the gym that day. It was Cisco who stood up to the Guar, not Beany. "You have the audacity to doubt my veracity, or to insinuate that I am a prevaricator, you are one of the most low and despicable human beings I have ever had the misfortune to cast my optics upon. So assemble your penigranium and pick up your cambium and I'll sell you a product guaranteed to never rust, gravel or gambit." Goo Goo, circa 1956. Goo was a classic case of arrested development. He never got by his last set shot for Gratz High in his last game. Boy, could he soot a basketball. He was a complicated, often irrational guy who really knew how to make kids laugh. Sure, he snapped at times, but mostly, he was a positive influence on us. Look at all the people with Goo stories.To answer your question about this guy, Dennis McGlinchey, there is no way to explain a guy like Goo. He always had something cookin'. He could play the piano. He could tell a joke. He was Happy Hollow.
John Brogan, Historic early spring in Maine...global warming, Mr. Gore? [04-12-2010]

Charlie Joe Scanzello, please leave me an email so I can contact you. I grew up with You, Marie & Sil.
RB [04-12-2010]

Bob McCreight: Thanks for the call out. How is your brother Moon? One of my fonder memories is all the baseball that we played in the park, Waterview and East Germantown. You could never claim you did not know the time since the bells from the Immaculate chimed every 15 minutes. Where else did they have that?
Peter F. Coyle, Lafayette Hill, Pa. [04-12-2010]

To Dennis McGlinchey, Bravo. I was thinking the same. I do not understand idolizing someone who is abusive, verbally or physically.
Maryalice, still in G'towjn [04-12-2010]

Anthony Giordano...my man! Thankyou for your letters and Germantown interest, knowledge and love. I think of you guys, like David, and all your mischief now as poetry before the storm. And the storm hit all of us. Jimbo
Jim McKernan, Professor [04-12-2010]

Mark, I was too young but, as I heard it, it was when he was running for president in 1960. He gave a campaign speech outside the Orpheum. I heard they closed Chelten Ave to traffic due to the large crowd.
Dennis McGlinchey, Born & raised in East Germantown [04-12-2010]

Yea Goo must have been one fun guy to hang around with. One minute your talking and playing ball and the next Goo comes over and beats the little kids up and takes their ball and candy. Thats a fun day to share good memories about. Or when he gets older he carries a gun and shows how tough he really is. I wonder what he did with small animals, just twist their limbs off for fun. Come on hollow guys get real he cant be your hero. Did he ever get married and have a family of little goos kept in cages.
richy [04-12-2010]

Dennis McGlinchey … when I read your comments from April 10th regarding Goo and your changing impression of him based on some of the recent stories, I felt compelled to try and set the record straight, at least from my perspective. The way that you described your initial impression of Goo is quite accurate as far as I am concerned “… an endearing image emerged of someone beloved, respected, someone larger than life, someone you would tell your grandchildren about …” However, as you pointed out, some of the recent stories could have created the impression that he was more of a bully. In all the years that I knew Goo, I never saw any signs that he was a bully. However, I read the same stories that you did and can see where this impression could be created. Believe me, Goo was not a bully. But he was not without his rough spots, just like all of us have. He was full of hubris and macho (long before this term was created), and very protective of his persona. If someone wanted to mess with him, it’s coming right back at you. And I don’t have a problem with that. He did not go looking for trouble, but could handle it if need be, and he certainly was not a bully. Surprisingly, not much is made of Goo’s athletic skills, especially in basketball. Back in the fifties, the jump shot replaced the two hand set shot and the one hand stab. Goo was a product of the late forties/early fifties style of basketball and he did not have a jump shot … but he did have the most accurate two hand set shot I have ever seen. It rolled off his thumbs, low trajectory, nothing but net … from distances well beyond today’s pro three point line. He was always pretty accurate with his shot, but there were times when he was off the charts. I watched him in a game against a team that had some pretty good players (a couple of all-public basketball players were on that team) but the Hollow guys were just as good, and Goo was on fire that night. The cat quick guards from the other team were right in Goo’s face every time he got the ball, but he had moves that created enough space for him to get off his set shot … and when he did … nothing but net. As the game progressed, the other team’s guards kept forcing Goo to shoot from further and further out … and he kept making them. Pretty soon Goo is close to half court and those guards were daring Goo to take the shot. Without hesitation, Goo let’s fly one of the longest set shots I have ever seen and while the ball was still in flight to the basket, he turns around and starts walking down to the other end of the court with that exaggerated walk of his announcing to everyone that he doesn’t even have to look .. he knows it’s in. Of course the shot got nothing but net, and everyone in the place cracked up, even the opposing players. Priceless! Cocky? You bet. Full of macho and hubrus? You bet. But here I am fifty years later telling you this story. And you are right, Dennis … I also told my grandchildren this story.
Tom Cusack [04-12-2010]

Thank you Helen Leone, Rosemarie Malageri of Stafford Street, and so good to hear from Greg Striano… for your words, I love you guys.... Dan Hartnett, I appreciate your understanding...and invitation-perhaps some fine day we could have a soiree somewhere in Germantown. If we were in Galway I would you take you to my friend Mico Morans Thatch pub(he is the oyster shucking champion of the world) near Kilcolgan….where we would eat oysters, caught in the river below the Castle opposite the pub…and dine on the house made brown bread covered in salmon and slaughtered by Arthur Guinness’s delightful brown stout and crabmeat. All before a roaring peat (turf) fire that smells like the oak leaves of Autumn Germantown fires past. I love that place..I mean County Galway where I landed after the Vietnam War and whose people helped me see that “Left is Right”. They were not on the side of England (right-wingers) then …but on the side of the people rising up for democratic-not imperial government! If you don’t know it—the Irish Republic was founded by Socialist democrats like James Connolly-shot to death in his wheelchair by British army pigs who invaded Ireland..a people who did not care about national self-determination-which the Celtic Irish nation do. They,the Brits shot priests in their churches....Amen. James McKernan, Professor
Jim McKernan, Professor, East Carolina University, Greenville NC [04-12-2010]

Hey Bud Ballard, the outlaw biker gang you refer to could be the Henchmen.
anonymous [04-12-2010]

Does anyone remember the Chinese laundry "around the bend"? I don't remember if it even had a name other than the Chinese laundry. I can still recall the clean, fresh smell that emitted from it as you passed by the building. It seemed as though the door was always open. On occasion, I would take my dad's long-sleeved white shirts there to be washed, starched & folded ($.19 ea). Upon picking up the clean laundry, the owners/operators would wrap the shirts in plain brown paper & tie the package with string. I remember saving the brown paper & using it to cover my IC school text books. It was perfect....just the right size & grade of paper. It's funny the things I remember as a school child; e.g., cleaning my text books at the end of the school year, simonizing my desk, opening/closing the classroom windows with the very long window pole, cleaning the chalk boards and clapping the erasers. Today's school children sit in air-conditioned classrooms & use computers. They will probably never see a window pole nor clap an eraser; but hopefully, someday, they too will look back on fond memories of their school years and remember all the good things....just as I have today. Thanks for the memories.
Lorraine (Cupo) Kelly, ic 55; cdsh 59; fl [04-12-2010]

Paul Borian (The Bor): Paul, I hope you didn't think I was knocking Goo with my story. I wasn't. One mistake I made was that the "backhand" was with the cloth, (whatever the heck that was, a pair of bermudas, whatever); it was just a story. A thing that happened, and I knew people who read this and hung at The Hollow, would be able to picture it, and relate. To a stranger, it may make Goo sound a little off base, but like they say, "You had to be there". No harm, no foul. Speaking of Goo's cars, how about the white 58 Eldorado, with red interior if I remember correctly. As a young teen at that time, I was blown away by that one. Re: Gene, (my brother, Beanie), I never heard that story before, but it is quite believeable. Gene had a very firey temperment, as did many in my family. It's a "gene" thing I guess. However, most of us also received a fair dose of common sense, and weighing in at this corner at about 115 at the time, I wasn't about to challenge, Goo; not even The Bor for that matter. ;)
John (Junior) Payne [04-12-2010]

Gregg S: It is commendable that you are willing to stick up for your friend, which is what Germantowners do. You are absolutely correct in stating that he has the right to his opinion but so does anyone who prefers to remain anonymous. Both of your responses seemed a bit hostile. It actually sounds like you're trying to pick a fight with anonymous, which seems immature, not to mention bizarre, since we're pretty much all senior citizens at this point. While there are other websites that have been started by, and for, those in other areas of the city, ours, however, is unique because it is easily accessed by anyone interested in Philadelphia. It is a living history lesson written by the people who have experienced growing up here. Many school children use this site. We usually are respectful of those who post here regardless if they decide to put their name or not. Who cares? Thank you for choosing to give access to your email. I imagine anyone who would like to speak with you or Jim will certainly do so. I hope we are done with this online bickering and, get back to the neighborhood stories we love to hear. Anna: Thank you for letting us know about Dr. Chas. His comments were beautiful. His contributions were interesting and appreciated.
Lynne [04-12-2010]

Bob -- Joe Ryan was the best! I still see him occasionally in his capacity as a track official. In '63, he coached our 12-and-under East Germantown Rams team to the city final. It was played as a prelim to the Gold Medal championship game at Lincoln HS. Frank Moffatt and Joe Magarity were two of our main guys. I have no idea why I still remember this, but here goes: One of our wins that year was over a team called Awbury, by 39-4. The four points were scored by . . . Seamus McCaffery. That summer we moved to Oreland/Glenside and our house happened to have a pool. One day, guess who showed up unannounced. A group of maybe 10 kids headed by Joe! He led the way as everybody came barging in through a gate in the back fence and yelled, "Hey, Ted. We just happened to be in the neighborhood!" Ha, ha, ha. Joe was a great runner at CD, by the way. For a while he held the Catholic League record for the two-mile run . . . To John Fleming: The Prep/La Salle thing probably evens out because some decent athletes can't get in, or can't hang once they do get there. I often wondered why Dougherty wasn't more dominant in all sports, truthfully. Maybe its feeder parishes weren't as well organized as some others that sent kids to Judge, North, etc? Something to ponder, no doubt. Wiffle ball 4-ever!
Ted Silary [04-12-2010]

Charles Scanzello. How are you doing? Are you retired? How is your brother Sylvester? I was told he had moved down South. I would like to get intouch with Sylvester. My E-Mail address is oballard89@aol.com Bud Ballard
Bud Ballard [04-12-2010]

Dennis McGlinchey...As previously stated,you could love and hate Goo in the same day.Roy Rodgers was King of the Cowboys.Goo was the King of Happy Hollow.He was never a role model.Very few of us at the Hollow were role models.Most of us had thick skin and street smarts,two requisites to survive the Hollow characters led by Goo.Goo was quite intelligent and a very good athlete.Like most of us,he was very competitive,and combative at times.Most of all,he was very funny and could hold you in the palm of his hands.He was very entertaining and loved a big audience.He could really hold court.He was also a sensitive and caring person.He was a big guy with a big heart.He was likeable most of the time,even when he was beligerrant.How could that be,you say? Because,he was the Goo.Unlike most of us at the Hollow,Goo had difficulty working for an Employer.He was his own man.He loved the race track;Garden State,Atlantic City,and Brandywine.He loved to gamble.He was an entreprenour.He took ownership of Sal's Steak Shop and did well for a time.He was always looking for an angle,an opportunity,a venture.He was married for awhile,but did not have any children.He always wanted to have a son to play sports like himself.So you see,Goo was far from being a thug.He was one of us.A big fun loving guy,very entertaining,and one who loved having audience.It was very easy to forgive him if he slapped you upside your head.Dennis,if you would have had the opportunity to meet "The Big Bopper",you would have loved him......Paul Borian
Paul Borian [04-12-2010]

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