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November 21-30, 2010

Erda, the arrangements for Mary Neill Knopf are: Tomlinson Funeral Home 2707 Bristol Pike Bensalem, PA 19020 (215-639-0422) On Wednesday Dec 1st - calling hours are 9:00 - 11:00 A.M. ( no evening hours). The service will be at 11:00 there at the funeral home then interred at the Resurrection Cemetery
Sheila [11-30-2010]

hello SCHMITTY,first i must thank you for having the knowledge and tact with the help of the webmaster(if not the same)to keep the site interesting,flowing,and common.i grew up with johnnyboy MCGEEHAN i consider him my best friend at the time.i had a good relationship with his father and uncles mike, charlie, and corny.all lived within walking distance to happy hollow.CMM i knew your father mike as a kind and gentle man.i'm sorry you never got the closure that we all wanted that who ever murder your father was never caught and hung.(my sentiments).also your father gave my brother rocky his nickname after seeing aold JAMES CAGNEY movie which his character was name rocky sullivan.in mike's words was a do good HOOD.almost every day your father would have his coffee at joe's and talk baseball with me.BROGAN heard the goo post office story a 1000 times, love the way you tell it.keep posting.JBS thanks for kind words.hello johnnyboy and kevin McCARTHY.PEG please tell johnny iwas asking about him.thanks
dom raff, same [11-30-2010]

Over the years I have thought about why the Germantown barracks/apartments were such a happy place for me and I believe the major reason was the environment around me----just the same as what I read many of the other writers on this blog are saying in general about Germantown. In the case of these apartments, remember that the men were coming out of 3 to 4 years of personal uncertainty. Now they have started or renewed their family life with love ones and the dreams they had nurtured. Finding a nice place to live at a time when housing was difficult to secure plus the fact it was close to transportation near the center of Germantown and starting life on a different level, these were the real dreams of these men and their families, all of this together created a radiance of joy and happiness that encircled the place. Remember that happiness like all feeling is contagious. Some of the people I remember----Barbara Kehoe and her younger sister who lived across the hall from us. In 1949, I started Kinder at St. Vincent’s and Barbara in the 3rd grade would take me to school with her. During the fall they would burn the leaves in Vernon Park, when I saw the fire was very low I would run into the ashes & at that Barbara would take my hand and hold it the rest of the way to school (she was my first crush) Up stairs was Katie Hammill, she was about my age and my parents took us all on little trips around Germantown. Across the hall from her was Bill Murray, he might have been in 5th grade but to me he was like a high school student. On the mantel of their apartment they had one of those shinny big black panthers that was very popular in the 1950’s & 60’s. Across from our building lived the Lipshiz family who we were very close to, they had a daughter Chickie who was older than me plus they had a small boy. Mrs Lipchiz was one of those exhilarating people that you just loved to be around---I remember her as a person that was positive and happy all the time. Down a little was Mrs Wright, she had a small girl and their family was one of the first to have a car in the complex. Over in one of the buildings near Rittenhouse lived Francis McShay, who I had the privilege of meeting later when I was a paper boy working out of the station at the bottom of Tacoma St., I must add that I learned a lot from him and even though he lived in East Falls, he traveled to St. Francis of Assisi to finish the 8th grade with our class. I’ll end this with a little story of me and a boy my age who lived at the corner of Chelten Ave. & Pulaski Ave. I was 4 and I took my brother Joe who was 2 at the time for a long walk from our place which was near where Tacoma St. entered from Wayne Ave. We went down to Rittenhouse and then up Pulaski to Chelten Ave., here in the back yard of the corner house behind one of those old iron fences common in Germantown I met a boy my age (it’s funny how children make friends) but there we were the 3 of us playing in the dirt without a care in the world. Meanwhile my parents were going crazy looking for us, my mother going off in one direction and my father down to Rittenhouse and then Pulaski, not seeing us he did see a trolley coming down to the turn around. He asked the driver if he saw 2 small boys, the man replied that he did see a few children playing in the corner house down the street. I remember the time and also remember going back several times more to play with the boy, I don’t recall his name but I do remember he was a very nice boy and we had a lot of fun. That’s just a little of the memories of my life at the barracks/apartments. Sorry if I confused or misspelled names
Jack McHugh [11-30-2010]

Hope all had a wonderful Thanksgiving and pass on some food for thought concerning the First Thanksgiving: Interesting fact #1 - More than half of the Pilgrims that left England in September of 1620 died during that first winter. Famine had set in and resulted in starvation and disease and not a few stole food from their common storehouse. Their original plan had created an economic community called, the “common course,” whereby each member was to contribute as much as he could produce and then take whatever he needed to live. It was not unlike, “from each according to his ability, to each according to his need.” It did not work and was the very reason they were starving. When they finally ended common ownership and turned to private ownership of individual plots of land they put and end to the famine. Interesting fact #2 - Under the English law of that time, all territory in America belonged to the Crown. The monarch could keep any part of it as a royal domain, or grant it, by charter, to privileged companies or persons. When the Pilgrims decided to leave England they needed permission and capital. As farmers and working class people they had little capital so, they enlisted the aid of a group of private entrepreneurs who formed the London Company and sold shares to stockholders in order to sponsor colonization in America. They obtained a grant from the Crown and financing from merchants who considered their investment as a loan. The Pilgrims considered themselves bound in a “common course” to repay that loan as quickly as possible. The real moral of their story is that their experiment in collective farming (Socialism) failed and they were forced to turn to Capitalism to survive and repay their debtors and, secondly, it was risk-taking entrepreneurs (Capitalists) hoping to gain a profit who were the ones who actually funded the start of America. Would not the participants of that first Thanksgiving want us to know that the survival of the land of the free and the home of the brave depended on the survival of free enterprise, competitive Capitalism ­ and still does?
Joe McCormick, Immaculate 55', Card. Doughterty 59' [11-30-2010]

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The funeral arrangements for Mary Neill-Knopf are as follows: Wednesday from 9 AM to 11 AM viewing. 11 AM services at the Funeral Home followed by internment at Resurrection Cemetery on Humeville Road in Bensalem. Tomlinson Funeral Home 2707 Bristol Pike Bensalem, Pa. 19020 215-639-0422 There will be a luncheon for all family and friends immediately following the service at the cemetery.
Erda, From the Westside of Germantown [11-30-2010]

John Payne: I like the stories about cars from The Hollow guys. You and Jim Kehan drove Berkery's old tank and Big John must have been a nice guy and liked the boys from St. Francis to allow you and Jim to practice your driving with no license. Was Big John afraid of you since Brother Ken told me you,Jim K.,and Frank Klock were good with your hands. Big John was friends with John McCullough and that would have been a fair-one,you and Jim K. against those 2 legendary gentlemem. Those gentlemen liked big automobiles-Cadillacs and Town-cars. At The Continental,I talked to Mike Garvey who worked with John McCullough and Mike G. always drove a Caddy-the Business Agents usually had Black Cadillacs. You should have been at The Valley Forge Demonstration against Altemose with all those Cadillacs and Lincoln-Town-cars. Jack Brogan mentioned that Goo[hollow-legend] had an Olds,I remembered when he had a Caddy. A lady on this site,is looking for Helen Fowler and I remembered when your friend,John Fowler, had a beautiful Chevy Convertible. However,of all the Hollow guys,Ben Hom had the coolest car,a Thunderbird. You lived in California and liked music. I could see you in a T-Bird crusing up The Pacific Coast,listening to The Doors-L.A. Woman or Roadhouse Blues. You are now living in Florida and could cruise Alligator-Alley and listen to Roy Orbison's Pretty Woman with your lovely wife next to you. You could head to Highway 10 in Louisiana and listen to John Fogerty's Down in The Bayou or linda Ronstadt's Blue Bayou. You could head to The Mississippi Delta and cruise Highway 49 and listen to Highway 49 by Howling Wolf. In Virginia,head down Highway 81 and listen to The Killer,Jerry Lee Lewis and "Down The Line". Back in the day,Germantowners and you and your Hollow buddies liked to cruise and listen to rock&roll. John Payne! Chuck Berry would tell Johnny to be good and no more Junior Walker for you if you know what I mean-Bor gets it.
Schmitty [11-30-2010]

Kevin McCarthy,good to see you here!
Joe DiPasquale [11-30-2010]






FFK(FRANK KLOCK) [11-30-2010]

lou giorno is in the hospital .please say a prayer for him . frank.
FRANK, north wales [11-30-2010]

Oh yes Hecate's Circle. I use to smell the fumes as I was waiting for the "J" Bus, and it was not coffee! Peace, Love, and out!
Ed Farrar, Chester, VA [11-30-2010]

Joe Graber: I am with you, totally. A lot of people spoil their children and thus give them a sense of entitlement. Don't get me started on that subject..parents just have to know where to 'draw the line', and obviously you did that with perfection, because your son sounds 'like an awesome man'.And no man should be 'considered a sissy' or whatever, for helping out/ my dad was very much a MAN and always helped my mother to 'clean up'..and so I learned what I lived.....the same thing...everyone pitches in/ and yes, then there is more quality family time for the cook/hostess/ and her guests.amen...You didn't ramble, you made everyone think......Ciao, Linda "F">
L.Fontana [11-30-2010]

Bernard F.McKernan: So glad that you will be able to make the luncheon, Yahoo for you...my Christmas shopping isn't done, yet....either...but, I will be there with 'Bells' on. FYI and anyone else who forgot the date.....it is Sunday, December 12, at 1:00 p.m. The Place is LaFontana's on York Rd. in Hatboro...where we met the last time. Nope, you don't have to contact them, they know around 20+ "G"Towner's will (hopefully) show up...I am glad that you said you may bring a friend,as the more the merrier.....Most Respectfully, Linda "F">
L.Fontana [11-30-2010]

Not sure who asked, but the name of the coffeehouse on Chelten near Baynton, next to the train station, was Hecate's Circle.....
Dennis McGlinchey, Born & raised in East Germantown [11-29-2010]

JBS - sorry to have to say, but Magarity dealerships are no more. The Ford dealership in Chestnut Hill closed a couple years back. The Chevrolet dealership on Bethlehem Pike in Flourtown closed a few months ago, a victim on the economic downturn. As I understand, the family wanted to keep the buiness going, but GM pulled the carpet from under them and put them out of business. Not sure what the property is or will be done with the property. The legendary Bill Magarity Sr openened those dealerships in the mid 1970s.
Dennis McGlinchey, Born & raised in East Germantown [11-29-2010]

Good morning boys & Girls. it is with great pleasure that I announce that I will be able to join the Germantowners Christmas luncheon in December. Time off for good behavior, (No small feat for this writer) & a "honey-do" list from wifey that would make even Santa envious in length, has gotten me the green light, red light, all the colors of Christmas lights. .......At the risk of slighting anyone, I will only mention our good friend & coordinator Linda F. to let her know that i will be there & possibly a friend. I know that several women on the site have a hand in arranging the luncheon & if I need to contact fontana's directly, please let me know ok? Also, again please the time & date as I'm a Gtn boy with silly thoughts of sugar plums dancing in my head. I am the classic case of the kid who says: "The dog ate my homework". or translated, means i was too &%#@(*& busy goofing off to really apply myself & this is the best I could do & I hope it works!.....Do I hear "jug", detention??? ciao everyone.
Bernard f mc kernan, Annapolis Md. [11-29-2010]

Hello to everyone, First i want to say that i hope everyone had a wonderful thanksgiving get together with family and friends and a great meal to go with it . I did have the traditional italian meal salad, soup, raviolli, meatballs, and susage and, then the turkey with all of the trimmings and of course dessert ... it was a wonderful day with my family and the food (if i say so my self)was all good . :>) A first ! :>) Second... don't forget the g town luncheon on december 12th at la fantan's at 1pm .... If you havn't already done so please do let linda know if you will be joining us. The restaurant needs a head count to allow us to reserve an area just for our get together .. hope to see you there. rosemarie
rosemarie hite malageri [11-29-2010]

Thanksgiving was crazy, like always, but I wouldn't have it any other way. "Dinner" was a boxed lunch and since the meat was white, I'm guessing the sandwich I ate was turkey. Can't say I savored it. Wolfed it down was more like it, considering the hectic pace. King beat Germantown in OT. My grandmom's house was knocked down to build King (so was website legend Bill Cupo's) and my mom went to Germantown. A few weeks ago I wrote a story about Dobbins G-LB Ernest White and, hey, what do you know, he lives on the 1300 block of Haines, across from where my grandmom's house was (or maybe across from Bill's; didn't pin him down for exact address). Very respectful kid. Made me feel good to know they still raise 'em right in G-town. I hope everyone had a great weekend!
Ted Silary [11-29-2010]

I am sorry to say that I have more sad news.. We lost 2 more from our Germantown Roots.. On Thursday Paul Hayden passed.. Paul grew up on Penn St and worked for Funzy Brothers on Penn St behind the Boys Club as a Teen and early 20s.. Paul was a member of Yearsley Post 234 Honor Guard.. He married Mary Jo Graham 44 years ago.. They lived next the Penguin on the corner of Belfield and Penn. Moved to Levittown.. Relatives and friends are invited to Paul's life celebration from 6 to 8 p.m. Tuesday, and from 8 to 9:15 a.m. Wednesday at Beck-Givnish of Levittown, 7400 New Falls Road, with a 10 a.m. Mass on Wednesday at St. Michael the Archangel Church, followed by an interment at Resurrection Cemetery Last night we lost my dear friend Mary (Neill) Knoph. Mary grew up on Belfield Ave with her brother Frank.. Went to St. Vincent’s and Little Flower.. She marched with Yearsley, and was a P&M girl.. I do have any information yet on Mary’s services.
Erda, From the Westside of Germantown [11-29-2010]

Hello GTN.,Dom Raff told me about this site a while ago,I,ve been reading the archives sure brought a lot of good memories.A couple of names i haven't seen but came to me Sleepy Walsh and Hokey Belson, two Hollow characters.
kevin mccarthy [11-29-2010]

A Boy’s Christmas in Germantown. Christmas vacation when I was 16 I was in Sal’s every morning around 10:00 for the mailman report. Goo Goo was a Christmas mailman, and he arrived for his hour-long coffee break every day. He needed an hour to tell us about the mean dogs that almost killed him that morning, and about the women in nightgowns looking at him invitingly. “What a great job,” he told us. “While I’m standing here shootin’ the bull wid’ you J.O.s, I’m on the “PO” clock, makin’ $6.43 an hour.” The PO clock was inside the Post Office building on Coulter St Goo arrived at the PO at 4:30 AM every work day, punched in and started sortin’ mail. He told us he had devised a foolproof mail-sorting system that got him out on the street and ready to deliver faster than all the other mailmen, even the regulars. “That’s why I can take a long coffee break. I’m the fastest mail sorter in the history of that place. They ain’t seen nothin’ like the Goo at the PO before.” We believed that last part of the story. Goo Goo was twenty-three years old and exactly six feet tall. He told us he was the only person other than Jesus Christ who was exactly six feet tall. Goo’s last name was Guarinello. He said it was the only name in history with all five vowels. Goo could stick his chin out and make himself look exactly like Mussolini reviewing the Italian Army. He did great impressions. One was of George C. Scott in the movie The Hustler. Goo had Scott’s face and voice down perfectly when the actor says to the Paul Newman character, “Listen, Eddie, That’s my Cadillac parked outside the door in front of the fire hydrant?” Goo loved that line. Scott parked his car wherever he wanted to park his car. Goo Goo was a strong guy with thick arms and big shoulders. He had a tattoo on his bicep that said “MOTHER.” He wore glasses for reading, watching movies, shooting basketballs better than anybody I’ve ever seen before or since, and for playing rock and roll piano. He taught himself to play. Goo’s mail route was in Mt. Airy on both sides of Germantown Avenue. He knew the territory well, but after a week on the job he got bored. That’s why he drafted Sonny (Ed Kennedy) and Trout (Jimmy Raffaele) and me as helpers. I remember being crammed into the back seat of Goo’s 49’ Olds with ten or twelve fully packed, canvas mail sacks as we headed out. At first, the three of us did little. We helped Goo load sacks into his car sometimes, and then went along for the ride to Mt. Airy. Goo humped the mail up and down the high risers while the three of us sat in the warm Olds with the radio blaring Buddy Holley, Little Richard or Ike Turner. Three days before Christmas, on the drive back to Happy Hollow, Goo told us, “I bin’ working too hard, man. It’s my piles. I think I’m havin’ an occasional flare up. That’s what it’s called on this box here.” He pulled out a box with a yellow cover. In the box was ointment to put on his piles. None of us had ever heard of piles before Goo had them, but we knew that piles were awful because poor Goo Goo now climbed the apartment steps using a pathetic, bow-legged hop step. His every move was agony. He was so miserable we couldn’t even laugh at him. Goo couldn’t call in sick either, because that clock on Coulter Street was ticking away paying him $6.43 an hour. What could he do? Commander Goo made a big decision. The three of us became substitute, replacement Christmas mailmen the next day, and our new positions carried increased responsibilities. We delivered the mail from then on. We had to fight off the nasty dogs and search for but never find any seductive ladies looking for company. While we were delivering the mail, Goo Goo rested his piles on the front seat of the Olds and blasted WIBG out the car window. He sat on the seat with his back way down and his knees up. This was so he could, “keep the pressure off my ass,” he said. It was sort of like looking at a guy in a recliner. The whole time he was waiting for us to finish, he chain-smoked Kent cigarettes, “because,” he told us, “The micronite filter on these things is good for my asthma.” On Christmas Eve we delivered the mail in a snowstorm. I was frozen and my legs cramped up from all the steps, but I got the mail in all the right slots and returned to the car proudly along with my friends and our empty bags. The Olds was covered with snow and when we wiped off the windshield we saw Goo reclining, but with a bottle of orange juice, a bottle of Vodka, and three Dixie cups. Goo was just starting to drink his first Christmas screwdriver through a straw when he looked up and saw the three of us staring through the window. “What took you guys so long? Get in the car, will ya? The Christmas Party is startin’. And hurry up? I gotta’ get back to the PO and punch out.”
Jack Brogan, Became a Phillies fan again this past summer [11-29-2010]

schurr [11-29-2010]

JBS, Great time at Continental on Wednesday night, was glad to see some of my old friends from Germantown again. The music, the place and people brought back some really good memories.
Dave Linn, Continental Member [11-29-2010]

In reference to (JBS) soccer coaches at the Continental Post on Thanksgiving we failed to mentioned the other Tom Kehen who initiated a tiny tikes soccer program at the VE German Club over twenty years ago and is still coaching in this successful program. Also in attendance was longtime coach Paul Duddy with his wife Gail from North Penn & Lansdale Catholic. Two guys I learned a lot from growing up in G-Town.
Jim Coleman [11-29-2010]

Happy holidays to everyone. i was just sitting here feeling a little depressed because I was not in germantown for the holidays. Then I hooked on to this site and my blues melted away. Thanks for returning my good memories.
ANNE [11-29-2010]

Erda: Very sorry to hear of the passing of Ron Stoner. He and I were good friends back in the day. Many a good time was had at his house. His family was very good to us Majka boys. Although I hadn't seen him in years, I did know of his law enforcement efforts and often thought of him while I was working as a police officer, myself. I mourn this loss. It's like a piece of my lifetime is gone forever.
Ron Majka [11-29-2010]

I spent Thanksgiving at my Gf's. It was mostly her 3 childrenand spouses with my son joining us late in the evening. I'm somewhat disappointed in her children. 3 kids...One a teacher...one a med student and the other a law student..didn't do anything to help their mother cook...or clean up. NOT ONE of the significant others offered or helped clean up. My son, who didn't attend dinner due to previous engagements, spent more time helpin clean up than could normally be expected of someone coming so late. In the past, I've been accused of being weak and less than a man, for helping to clean up. I don't get it. If everyone helps with cleanup,doesnt that give more time to the host/hostess to spend with family? I guess I just raised my son differently. Her children nor their spouses did NOTHING despite knowing that she (MY GF) worked her butt off creating this fine meal AND ....was getting up at 4 AM for black Friday. What have we done to our children that they can't at least OFFER help cleaning up after Thanksgiving dinner? Sorry for rambling.
joe graber, 64 but dont look a day over 65. I swear. [11-29-2010]

Jane West: I trust that you had a nice Thanksgiving with your friends in beautiful South Carolina. I had a good time on Thankgiving-Eve at "The Continental". You and Husband Bill and I spent some wonderful evenings there. Bill and I always hung out in the corner near the pool-room,this spot was occupied by Walter Garvey from The Brickyard. The canon is still on the hill but the great canon is no longer with us-Hughie Canon who ran The Continental for many years. I was disappointed that John West,Mr. Continental,could not make the event. Tom McLaughlin is no longer with us but Commander Conway is a nice guy. I met many people and most of them were the younger brothers of people that I knew from past years. Tom Wilkin's brother was there and he is no longer a kid. Everybody had a good time in Old Germantown. This event could not take place in Logan where your old chuch was located-Holy Child. Jane! I had to let you know about this event since The Continental was a special place for you,Bill,and Brother John.
J. Bruce Schmitt [11-29-2010]

The name of the coffee house on Chelten Avenue was Hecate's Circle. That's were I met my husband.
May Flannery [11-29-2010]

Just wanted to thank John McHugh for the great information and the site with the pictures. Happy holidays to you, John!
Gillian Andersen, Teacher in NM [11-29-2010]

To Jim McKernan, Liked your posting about serving at St. Vincent's for the 6 AM Mass. My Parish, Saint Francis of Assisi had a "Workers Mass" of 5:30. Because I never complained serving it? Monsignor Peter J. McGarrity moved me up to Benidiction team leader. Go figure? I also noted your comments about receiving mail in Vietnam. Welcome Back. I spent Thanksgiving Day up in the Mountains of Bong Son with the First Air Cavalry Division and ate Turkey flown out to us by our "cookie". God Bless him and God Bless all of you G-Town Folks. Jim Breen. East Seymour Street.
James F. Breen, 63 yr. old from East Seymour Street. [11-29-2010]

Hey, Yo. Is this blog open to everybody, or just the general public. Cuz my future brother in law just threw our turkey out the back door. Pauli can get very mental sometimes. It's okay though cuz me and Adrian are heading out to the zoo. Maybe I can find another turkey there. Hey, yo, Happy Thanksgiving everbody.
Rocky Balboa [11-29-2010]

One early morning at Easter-time I was on my way to serve as an altar boy at St Vincent dePaul Church in Germantown. It was 5.30 I was slated for a 6 a.m. Mass I was perhaps 10 years old. I had to cross the railway tracks from Lena Street to Chelten Avenue when I came across, a priest-I thought- dressed with the collar and habit. It was my man Francis Sheridan-the guy we referred to as "the Mayor of Germantown" for his hellacious and bold manouvres. "Benny the Bum" others called him and I am delighted to see he is acknowledged by my brother Kevin. Fr. Francis put his hand out to me and asked for my loose change- coppers-I said "kiss me arse" I know ye of old. He said he was on a losing streak. I looked up and pointed to a place just beside us on the Avenue-it was the "Whosoever Gospel Mission" I said you can get in there. He had a grand imagination but also a love for liquor and horse bets which he mostly lost on. I once wrote a short story about him-it wasn't published, but then again I loved to get mail when I served in Vietnam.Happy Thnaksgiving! It is now 6 a.m the day after and I, and the dogg, are looking forward to the leftovers...BTW oysters in the dressing is a good idea..and you shall not need viagra-lads.
Jim McKernan, Professor, North Carolina [11-26-2010]

I want to write a little about an area of Germantown that holds a special place in my heart. It was a unique place in Germantown, a place that did not cover a full city block (between Chelten & Rittenhouse & Wayne & Pulaski). A place with a short life (1946- 1956). When WWII ended the USA had a housing problem for the returning GI’s, to help alleviate this problem the government revamped military barracks and changed them into apartments placing some on this land which was the property of the Germantown Poor House. Walking up Wayne Ave. a little towards Rittenhouse there was a small street on the left called Tacoma St., there was 4 or 5 very small houses on the right of this street, then the street turned down and out on Rittenhouse, on the right side here were the garages for the homes on Wayne Ave. and on the left was the field where the army barracks(apts) were constructed. Across the fields way up on the far left side was the Poor House. I remember seeing it but it’s funny that I have very vivid and happy memories of this area but I can’t tell you what the Poor House looked like or if people lived there the time the barracks/apartments were on the land. It’s like I had a deep psychology fear of looking at the place, maybe it was the name or the things I heard about it from the other children. I used to play in the fields between us and the Poor House but my eyes seemed to stop before looking up all the way in that direction. I found no pictures of it but go to the site http://www.phillyhistory.org/PhotoArchive/Search.aspx and you can see where it was. At address type in Rittenhouse St. & Pulaski Ave, -----search---- photo A shows the side wall on Pulaski Ave. the Poor House was all the way down near Chelten Ave., note the height, the Poor House was on top overlooking Chelten & Pulaski Ave. There were homes here on Chelten Ave below it. On the right is where the trolley turned around----this was the trolley that ran on Chelten Ave., you can see the tracks turn in and come out. This photo was 1956, my family moved away in 1950 but the street looked the same then. The ruins of the building was there and the trollies just made a loop in this area on the right side, in the center of this loop was an old metal barrel, it was into this barrel that the conductors threw away precious items to a child of 4 or 5-----old transfer slips, many times the full pack---- remember that they used different colors for each day. There was a big hill behind this turn-around and I would lay down in the weeds and wait for the area to be vacant of all trollies before moving in to remove my fortune. By the way, this whole block on this side up to Chelten Ave. at that time was a Pennsy fright yard, there was a fright station on the spot where the supermarket was build at Chelten. On Rittenhouse the opposite side of the street was a lumber yard, it had a big yellow fence with black letters. Photo B was taken in 1963, you see the entrance of the drive up to the Poor House, on the flat field above is the area where the barracks were and on this lower side of the drive notice that the land was as high as the top of the wall. Photo C, Pulaski Ave. in 1963---good view on how large the area was and how high the Poor House sat above the street. Photo G, a close-up of the entrance to the Poor House and the field on the left where the army barracks/apts were. For your info the position of where you find these photos sometime changes, over the years at times I only find 3 photos and the other one is in another area, so I hope you have no problems as they help you to understand the described area.
Jack McHugh [11-26-2010]

Joe McCormick > I couldn't figure out why you thought I didn't like your "syndrome" post, so I re-read my own response. Now I think I see. What I was trying to say is I would rather have a syndrome named after me than having a disease named after (oneself). Sorry my inappropriate use of english led you to a different conclusion.
John Payne [11-26-2010]

On Thanksgiving Eve,I was hanging out at The Contnental,Wissy&Hansberry, with many-many Germantowners just like back in the day. I was a back-door man since I listened to Willie Dixon and The Doors[Jim Morrison]. I entered The Continental horse-shoe bar from the back-door entrance and I thought that I was in a time-capsule since I thought that I was having a mirage and looking at Ed Burke Sr. It was Big John Burke and not his father but the resemblance was definitely there. John Burke was talking to two Garvey Brothers from The Great Garvey Family of The Brickyard. I counted at least 6 Garvey family-members present. John B. was talking to Mike and Charlie Garvey who I had known from my St. Francis days back in the 50's. Charlie Garvey was always a friendly guy and has been happily married for 48 years. Mike Garvey had worked closely as a BA with legendary Local 30 guys-John McCullough and Joe Crosley who had a gin-mill on the boulevard. Mike G. told John how Crosley's bar was held-up and the patrons puts guns to his head which was empty and sent him out in the cold with his birthday-suit and froze his toes off. I look across the bar and see a Henigan and I thought about Hank Henigan who would come there with Hank Crane[bar owner] after working at The Famous Cranes. James Wilkins from W.Bringhurst greets me and I was disappointed that Brother Tom could not make it from Cherry Hill. Tom W. and I spent many happy times at The Continental. I started to tell Dave Linn, the great soccer player from Dobbins how talented he was. Dave and John Burke look to the right at Tom Kehan,Duncan Hubley's great player from GA. I knew Tom's brothers,Jimmy and Ed. John Payne mentioned in a previous post how Jimmy K. drove Berkery's big automobile. This was good practice for Jim since he lives in 3 states-Pennsylvania,Florida, and The Jersey Shore. Later, Tom Kehan told me what a great coach Duncan Hubley was. Tom and Dave Linn also mentioned how great Bob Soley was, his Brother Charlie was also outstanding. Tom Kehan was also impressed with Rocky Raffaele from The Hollow who taught him baseball skills. Rocky Raffaele was rocky but very human. I started talking to a very outgoing guy by the name of Paul whose last name was Ondik. I should have known who he was since his brother could out-talk any Irishman in my St. Francis class[1955]. His brother was John Ondik who had an unforgettable personaliy. Rich Pio could not make it since he is enjoying sunny Florida but his brother did make it. Teri Ireland who posts on this site did make it and was having a great time. Charlie G.,John B., and I were talking to an elegant woman from center-city and she said that these big guys from Germantown had good personalities. John Burke was the biggest guy in the place and the bartender next. Joe Crosley left early and Thomas Goony Walsh could not make it. It would have been great to hear Goony and Thomas Cueball Cusack talk about their days at The Dunes in Somers Point. I fully appreciate the effort of Commander Conway and his friendly and competent team. The Continental is a Germantown Institution that is still surviving.
JBS [11-26-2010]

Denise, I'm not sure but my first haircut was on the little pony at Siani's barbershop by Ralph's father who had a handlebar mustache. Wasn't his name Ralph also?
My First Cut, Wayne Ave. Shop [11-26-2010]

TO EVERYONE! Sending best wishes for a very Happy Thanksgiving, one filled w/many blessings! It is that many of us have many fond memories of Germantown!
Linda Chiarolanza-Raven [11-26-2010]

Anon: I wasn't picking your post apart. I acknowleged that your intent may have just been an inquiry. I mearly pointed out that in reading it, with the questions being so direct, my first impression was that of hostility, (kind of like a challenge). That's one problem with written conversation; when tone, inflection, body language, facial expression, etc. are removed, words can easily be misunderstood. I take you word for it that your intent was strictly inquiry. For what it is worth, I wasn't the only one who got the other impression. Re: anon posting. That had nothing to do with my impression; I really don't care if a person posts annonymously.
John Payne [11-26-2010]

Joe McCormick..re: our syndrome..I got it. Thought it was funny. We're good. I was kidding when I said it was better to be named after a syndrome than a disease.
John Payne [11-26-2010]

Jack Brogan > I remembber Pat Sarnese, and Bob Lejuski. Big people. I guess Mr dutton and Jimmy Cannon were before my time. I would have been pre-school or first grade around that time. I do remember the ladies from that era, Mrs. Herzog, and Mrs. Ginder. They took care of the little kids, cub scouts, and hooligans.
John Payne [11-26-2010]

Kevin McCarthy; good to see you here
Bonnie Gatto [11-26-2010]

just a line to wish every one happy holidays,have a safe one no matter where you are GG
george greene, retire in gilbertsville pa [11-26-2010]

Happy Thanksgiving, everyone. As we grow older, we grow smarter/wiser & some of us, wider. I remember my mom cooking & baking for days before Thanksgiving. Thanksgiving dinner included: 1st course... escarole w/sausage & beans; second course.... "homemade" ravioli . The spaghetti sauce included meatballs, sausage, brasiolle (sp??) After that, came the 3rd course.... turkey with all of the trimmings (stuffing, potatoes, gravy, vegetables). Dessert, of course, was a "must". Now that I'm older, wiser, wider & DO THE COOKING, the menu has been trimmed to include turkey, stuffing, potatoes, a salad, vegetables; and, of course, dessert. Thanksgiving dinner always brings me home to Haines Street with lots of food; lots of family gathered around the table; lots of conversation & noise; and most of all, LOTS of love! Thanks for the memories.
Lorraine (Cupo) Kelly, fl; ic '55; cdhs '59 [11-26-2010]

`Coffee brewing, turkey stuffed and ready for the oven, Thanksgiving day parade on the TV, all this combined with the memories of thanksgivings past and the ghosts of family no longer here with us to make this a special time in all our hearts. God bless us one and all.

Oh Kevin, I remember Benny Sheridan and his wife Alice who used to visit my Aunt Millie O'Brien and have tea with her on Stafford St. How sweet was your warm story about Benny, one of the many interesting characters from our home town.

Denise, I take my grandkids to Ralph's in Glenside for haircuts. It's a nice place and it's fun to look at the memorabilia that so nicely displayed. They do a great haircutting job too!
Sheila [11-26-2010]

To D.Duckworth--I lived on Gtn.Ave.& Logan St Pistoria's cleaners-I didn't know you but taught at J.S.Jenks with your sister Jane Becker for many years-How's she doing? Lou Giorno
lou giorno, lou from burbs [11-26-2010]

Denise Duckworth Tumelty, I remember Siani's barber shop on Wayne Ave. I had my first haircut in the pony barber chair by Ralph Sr. in 1950. I still go to their shop in Glenside. Ralph A. Siani Jr. passed away 04/10/10 here's his obituary... SIANI RALPH A. JR., April 19, 2010, of Glenside, formerly of Germantown. Husband of Jean M. (nee Molony), father of Suzanne Bingham (Raymond), Gina Krier (Michael), Elissa Hummer (Mark), and Ralph A. III (Kristen); also survived by 8 grandchildren. Predeceased by 2 sisters Constance DiPalma and Marie Flynn. Funeral Mass Fri. 11 A.M., Church of St. Luke the Evangelist, 2316 Fairhill Ave. (at Easton Rd.), Glenside. Int. private. Relatives and friends are invited to his Viewing at church Thurs. 6 to 9 P.M. and Fri . after 9:30 A.M. In lieu of flowers donations to Glenside Rotary Special Athletes, P.O. Box 362, Glenside, PA 19038 would be appreciated. www.mayfuneralhome.com The shop is now owned and operated by Ralph A. Siani III.
Bill, Olney, 61 [11-26-2010]

Seeking John Fowler, brother of Helen. Please contact me by private email. I am trying to locate Helen. If any reader is in contact with John, please pass along my request. Thanks.
Catherine Manning Muir, SFA '57, CA '61, Temple '73 [11-25-2010]

John Payne: Mr. Dutton was the first leader at Happy Hollow that I remember. He was a retired Marine (we believed) and he ran a tight ship. I remember exercise classes and drill classes when I was in 3rd and 4th grade. He was the first in a long line of first class people who ran "The Playground." Some others were Jimmy Cannon, Pat Sarnese and Bob Lejuski. All of whom were great with kids. Denise Duckworth Tumelty: Thanks for the clarification on the word hooligans. I always thought the word meant relatives.
Jack Brogan, Ready for snow in Maine [11-25-2010]

My stuffing is made with bread,onions,celery cooked first,eggs,turkey broth,water & Italian grated cheese &cooked italian sausage. Marie.Happy Turkey Day
Marie [11-25-2010]

Happy Thaksgiving To All MARIE
Malrie [11-25-2010]

One Thanksgiving's Day, a very long time ago, a gentleman in a rumpled white suit told me that he and "Mom" were doing squab for dinner. Whoa! I thought, "what's squab?" And "why is this guy in a white suit( it was after Labor Day), black shirt with a very loud red tie, and walking around in white shoes with brown leather trim--like golf shoes--without the cleats?" A straw, panama hat topped off his exotic appearance. I have known two other gentlemen that favored white suits--both writers: Mark Twain and Tom Wolfe--This fellow was no writer. I had just met "Benny- the-Bum," or as some might have know him by his christian name: Francis Sheridan?, I believe. One more of those interesting characters that Germantown churned out in abundance. To a twelve yr. old, he was mesmerizing, full of stories and tales about the Bermuda triangle just off the coast of Florida where he and "Mom" attended race-tracks; tales of smokey cocktail lounges (I thought adults went to bars), and, of course, the squab story. After informing me that "he was a little short" but had a hot tip on some race, I considered, but declined to turn over my hard- earned paper money. Instead, I raced home to ask the parents why we couldn't also have "squab" for thanksgiving, like Mr. Benny? My good old dad said: "son, we don't eat pigeons in this house." Oh! Happy Thanksgiving!
Kevin McKernan, Santa Barbara, CA. [11-25-2010]

Joe McCormick: Sorry I took so long to comment on your post. Thanks so much for your kind thoughts. You attribute much to me that is undeserved. I will get in touch with you soon and we will definitely do that dinner. Happy Thanksgiving to you and the family.
Dan Hartnett, Former East Germantown [11-25-2010]

I would like to wish everyone on this site a happy Thanksgiving and hope that we all take some time to count our blessings.
Dan Hartnett, Former East Germantown [11-25-2010]

Denise, your deinition may be only one of the various senses in which the word 'hooligan' has been used. My enquiries suggest that there was a rowdy family of 'hard men' in East London by the name of "Hooligan" (Irish no doubt) and their behaviour was responsible for this usage. Nowadays it is often associated with the fanatics who support English soccer (football) as they tend to be ruffians at international matches in particular causing mayhem and riots. I tend to ascribe to the view that it derives from a family name. I do not think there is a Gaelic word 'Hoolie' meaning unruly-but there most certainly were Gaelic men named Hooligan who were most likely unruly!
Jim McKernan, Professor, North Carolina [11-25-2010]

Does anyone remember the name of the coffee house (during the 60's) on Chelten Ave. near the railroad bridge? Thanks, and Happy Thanksgiving!
Barbara Barrella Webb, Louisville Kentucky [11-25-2010]

Do the CONTINENTAL tonight !
Wissy & Hansbury [11-25-2010]

Kevin McCarthy: It has been many years since we crossed paths. Not too long ago,I was hanging out with Frank Murphy at The Buck Hotel. It was a St. Francis reunion. We always have a good time. I asked Frank about the McCarthy brothers and Bingo!-you posted on this site. I understand that you are retired and I see that you are living in South Jersey and rooting for the eagles. At first,when I saw Belmawr, I thought that you were living at The Shore, but that would be Belmar which is near Spring Lake which is an area where I spend some time. I like the shore in the fall. Frank told me that brother Denny is still working and that he sees him. Frank works for Bank of America and is a mortgage-lender. Are you still friends with the guys from the neighborhood-people like Chris Maher who was my classmate at St. Francis[1955]. I see your old classmate Ray Dawes at different Germantown events. I am still friends with your old neighbor, Pat McIlhinney whose uncle your father worked for before he opened his Real-Estate Business at Knox&Manheim and Denny later took over. Dennis sold our two houses on Hansberry Street when my mother married again. It was so sad when Brother Pat died so young, it really shook my brother Jack up. Kevin! Have a great Thanksgiving and give Dennis my regardsI
John Bruce Schmitt [11-25-2010]

I am hooked on this site. Keep writing & telling stories past & present.
Denise Duckworth Tumelty [11-25-2010]

Denise D. Tumelty: Yes, you nailed one of the several origins for "Hooligans." That's "The Way We Were" until that rascal, Sydney Pollack co-opted the expression for his 1973 movie starring Streisand and Redford with the same title. Back in Irish- Germantown, being called a little hooligan was the mildest of rebukes; you never, ever wanted to be called a juvenile delinquent.. or be called late for dinner. And that's the "Way It Was." Thank you for your research.
Kevin McKernan, Santa Barbara, CA. (Rowdy days are behind me) [11-25-2010]

Denise Duckworth Tumelty: I love the explanation of the word "hooligan". I think I've had that appellation applied to me from time to time. It's nice to see it being given a semi-civil status. So then, hooligans are no more than a group of joyous revellers being ranted at by a nosy neighbor who is just jealous that they weren't invited to the party. There, I feel much better already, or could this just be a bunch of blarney? :)
John Payne [11-25-2010]

Soccer Guy: My memory is better from the past and consequently,I remember the old-time coaches. I do know about the great St. Joe Coach,Tom Turner,since I am a proud graduate of Hawk Hill. However,being a seasoned citizen, I also remember Jack Dunn who was also a great St. Joe coach and Jim Murray played for him. Jim Murray and Duncan Hubley played together at Germantown Cricket Club. They are both gentlmen and Duncan Hubley is a very humble guy. I knew a great athlete from GA where Duncan went and he was not so humble. Duncan was an outstanding soccer player and coach. I would be remiss if I did not say a few words about the great coach from CD-Jack Smith. Jack S. went to GA where he was All-Inter-Ac. He left GA for North where he was All_Catholic. After leaving North,he was All-Public at GHS. Jack also liked to jump out of airplanes-he was a paratrooper. Jim Murray,Jack Smith, and Duncan Hubley were all good men and coaches. I believe Joe Lynch and Dr. Joe D'Angelo knew Tom Turner from LaSalle High where they all taught. Soccer is a great game. My wife was a scholar but she loved soccer since she came from Argentina. Are you going to the world cup in Ukraine and Poland? Many of my Ukraiian friends will be going-it should be interesting.
JBS [11-25-2010]

Ted Silary: I liked your salient comments about sports,soccer,Coach Murray, and other individuals from Germantown,Frank Klock,our poet, would say that your comments are pithy and Proustian, Incidentally Frank played soccer at GBC. The soccer guy mentioned other coaches but I only knew Tom Turner from St. Joe,my alma-mater. Your words about Jim Murray,The Prep soccer coach, were so very kind,he is a gentleman. You also talked about The Magarity Family from Germantown and now Montgomery Co.They were good athletes,personable,and big supporters of LaSalle. Everybody knew Bill Magarity Sr. since he was active in sports including golf at Whitemarsh. The Magarity Dealership is on Bethlehem Pike across from The Former Brennan's which was owned by Steve Brennan from East Germantown and a CD graduate. A lot of former Germantowners hung out at Brennan's and Crane's in Ambler-you knew many of them from covering sports. On Thanksgiving Day, I might go to The Prep-Malvern Game. I know that you will attend a few. Ted! Keep posting and may the turkey be succulent and the wine- Fine.
JBS [11-25-2010]

Dan: To further clarify my thoughts concerning the criticism of anonymous writers to this site; I was referring specifically to those that referred to them using words such as, "vermin" and "maggots". This, in no way, implied any criticism of you.
Joe McCormick [11-25-2010]

John Payne: It was presumptuous of me to name a syndrome after you. I apologize. I thought you would have found it amusing or I would not have done so. You had described this particular "syndrome" first and I thought you would be amused by it. If it was offensive to you, again, I humbly apologize.
Joe McCormick, Immaculate Grad 55', CD Grad 59' [11-25-2010]

-Does everyone stuff their turkey? Just curious....because to me, 'the stuffing' is the best part..yummy. Happy Thanksgiving to all of the wonderful "G"towners' on this site. Have a great day with family and friends.....after all the years I cooked for my family/ my daughter is having Thanksgiving at her home...yahoo. Linda "F">
L.Fontana [11-25-2010]

JP, it was just a question, why pick it apart. I meant nothing by it and it wasnt directed to you. I am sorry for your loss as I am CMM. It seems that anon postings are dissceted regularly on this site.
anonymous [11-25-2010]

To be clear, it is Ralph Siani, Sr. who passed away recently. His son, Ralph, owns a barber shop in Glenside at the corner of Keswick & Mt. Carmel. Ralph moved there from Wayne Ave. next to Kane & Brown. There are great Germantown memories in the shop, including ROSIE, the little pony chair where you may have had your first haircut. There are also some great pictures and Roosevelt Jr. High & Germantown memorabilia.
Denise Duckworth Tumelty, Ocean City, NJ [11-24-2010]

Kevin McCarthy; good to see you posted here. Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours.
John Payne [11-24-2010]

JBS > re: "the car". My recollection is not that of a nice vehicle, e.g., town cars or caddilac. I am remembering that the car was several years old, and somewhat beat up, but maybe Mr. B. used more than one. Also, if we were being followed, we were certainly oblivious to it, because as I mentioned, I wasn't even aware of the situation at the time. I think I was a young, or maybe mid-teen. Clueless.
John Payne [11-24-2010]

The origins of the word "hooligan" comes from an informal Irish gathering called a hoolie. When the party broke up and the boisterous guests left, they were referred to as "hooligans."
Denise Duckworth Tumelty [11-23-2010]

Some on this site have mentioned that they know Molly Mc Kee who is the sister of Paul Mc Kee,a classmate of mine and jbs, at the Prep. I would like to contact him. If anyone out there knows where he is or how to find him, please. Let me know, I would appreciate it very much. Thank You
Louis F Pauzano, Sr., South Phila. [11-23-2010]

Yo! Am very happy to be back in Philadelphia to spend Thanksgiving with my family. And what a story today about the Eagles' win over the NYC Giants! It makes a nice change from Catholics vs. Protestant sport battles in Edinburgh. Ed Burke, to answer your question, yes...when I am home I still go to Mass at St Francis on Sunday morning. And weep. Perhaps I may have swelled numbers from 25 to 26 people. Oh what lovely memories of the church aisles filled to bursting with kids and the nuns bustling about getting us in line to receive Holy Communion. I can't remember: were we well-behaved, or not? All the parents were in the basement church waiting to take us home for raisin sticky buns. Then turning on TV to watch Bertie and Bunyap (sp?). Must to now. Am hogging the computer.
Jeannie Sprissler, Thanksgiving in Philadelphia [11-23-2010]

John Payne: I agree with Jack Brogan Of Maine that was a great story about you and Jimmy Kehan driving one of Berkery's cars. I can envision you and Jimmy K. cruising around the bend near the junction in a big caddy or town-car. I find it remarkable you were driving one of Berkery's cars with no driver's license or owners car when the legendary Clarence Ferguson[PPD] was always out to get him. Ferguson spent a lot of time in Germantown with his squad and I crossed paths with him at various venues including The Continental where he was doing some surveillance but many substantial people hung out there-veterans and law-enforcement types. I will be hanging out at The Continental,the day before Thanksgiving where they will be getting a big crowd-all Germantowners. You and The Cisco Kid[your brother] should write a book about The Hollow,The Celebrity Room and all the characters that you gentlemen knew-including Goo, Rocky, Jack Flaherty and John Berkery. I am not trying to be flippant but I could see you having rapport with him since you both loved The Irish Culture. John! I have not seen you in many years but there is some resemblance. Do you have a gravelly voice? You are both very intelligent, John B. went to The Prep for a year before he headed to Mexico. Bob LaValle,thought he was brilliant especially after reading The Daily News and The Pottsville Heist. Jack Brogan mentioned the coal-baron's name,John Rich, in that famous incident. His real name was Giovanni Battista Recchione. His son,John Rich is a major car-collector and has an Auto_Museum. Like Bob LaValle, I was fascinated with the story. The Cisco Kid must have told you how voluptuous and gorgeous Lillian Reis was when she worked at The Celebrity Room and eventually owned it. You really knew that block across from The Hollow well. You knew Berkery's store which Jack Brogan called the cleaner's-Right! Nobody ever complained if their clothes did not come back on time-icluding Bob Durkin. Once, I took a suit to a cleaner at Rising Sun& Wyoming in the 60's and the place was torched. Did you ever hear of Marvin The Torch? You knew all the grocery-stores,steak-shops and the Bars-including Gillespies. You are correct that Bill Mulvey's father owned that bar on Wayne Ave. Bill Mulvey played ball with Joe Lynch and me at Fernhill Park. He went to The Prep[1955] and was a smart player like Joe Lynch. He did not like playing with Jim Katcavage and he had good reasons. John! You would have had no problems guarding The NFL Lineman since you are a brave man, you drove with Jim Kehan,in one of Berkery's tanks and were probaly being tailed by Fergie's squad. Incidentally, Frank Murphy's brother Jack was good friends with Big John, and he[JM] drove a Benz and Janis Joplin would have loved it- I know you get it and don't tell Frank Klock that I am confabulating since he wants us to be Proustian.
JBS [11-23-2010]

I regret having to inform you that another Germantown (Brickyard) Ron Stoner passed on Sept 11.. I received an email from his wife.. Ron Left Germantown when he joined the Air Force in 1966. He Loved Phoenix AZ and decided to stay.. He was retired after a long career in law enforcement in Phoenix.. This site reunited me with my old friend and I am glad I was able to meet him and his wife 2 years ago in Las Vegas.. His wife did not give me any details.. Ron is responsible for pictures I put up on St Vincent’s Classmate site and Brickyards site..
Erda (Armstrong) Graham, Grew up on the West Side [11-23-2010]

I went back to the 5500 block of Morris St---I lived there in the 50's---what a wonderful place it was---I was SO happy to see it has not changed -beautiful old homes well cared for--Woodlawn ave looks like a street in a village in Ireland---proud of GERMANTOWN!
vera carey canavan, St. Vincent's 1956--- [11-23-2010]

kevin mccarthy, bellmawr nj north catholic class of 61&62 [11-23-2010]

happy thanksgiving to each and everyone on our site whether it's large battles or small duels st.patrick's day or april fools from my heart to your heart comes the love of a friend.
FRANK KLOCK (FFK) [11-23-2010]

JBS. I was not that good a coach. I had good players at GA. Bob Soley, Tom Kehan, Arthur (Moe) Sweeney, and Rolf Piranian. All from Germantown. Duncan Hubley.
Duncan Hubley [11-23-2010]

JBS, you forgot a couple of other soccer coaches, Tom Turner, LaSalle H.S. & St. Joe's, Charlie Duccilli, Cherry Hill H.S. & Rutgers Girls, Hugh McInaw, C.D. & Temple, and Seamus McWilliams, Temple Girls.
Soccer Guy [11-23-2010]

Thanks for your kinds words, JBS. Jim Murray is a great guy. In his early years, the Northern Division was MUCH better than the Southern Division so the title games were often one-sided. It was hard to watch him experience so much disappointment. He has always wanted the best for his school in all sports; unfortunately, not all ADs who also coach are like that . . . As a side note, I wrote a story last week about La Salle's most recent FB title. The QB is Matt Magarity, whose uncle, Bill, was a guard for La Salle's 1963 CL basketball champs. The Magaritys, of car-dealership fame, lived on the 800 block of East Rittenhouse and every kid played ball in their driveway. To us that place was like the Palestra! smile
Ted Silary [11-23-2010]

Joe McCormic > I just had a fleeting thought about our affliction with "Payne's Syndrome". Maybe we should sign, "Occassionally Anonymous"
Occassionally Anonymous [11-23-2010]

anonymous - Your post to CMM questioning her pursuit of the circimstances surrounding her father's tragic death comes across as very hostile. I'm wondering if you realized that, or were just being inquisitive, and that is just your style of questioning. I can relate to CMM's pursuit. My mom was killed in our neighborhood when I was very young, and over the years I had yearnings to know all of the details of that situation. I can't call it an accident, because the driver of the truck (car?) passed a stopped trolley on the left side while the trolley driver was offloading passengers. At least that's a version that I only recently learned from one of my brothers. When you lose a parent prematurely, or from violent death that way, it can be devastating. What seems like it would have been reasonable at that time to you, may not have seemed possible to those affected at the time.
John Payne [11-23-2010]

Joe McCormic> Thanks for naming a syndrome after me. That's has to be better than having a disease named after you. :)
John Payne [11-23-2010]

Forgot to mention that I taught the Schenk's grandson in 6th grade at McKinley School in Abington. I discovered that when they sent in a fantastic sheet cake for some event. It is really a small world. Germantown is all over the place.
ddt [11-23-2010]

Stuff the bird with bread & vegetables ( carrots, celery, onions, etc) & yes it goes in the bird otherwise, it is not stuffing. It is dressing. BTW SFA has a special Mass the first weekend in October to celebrate St. Francis' feast day. they use the upper church through the warm weather - about Easter till November. it is still beautiful & has been kept in good condition. You are correct about the business connection between my father & Mr. McKee (Charlie). they were president & VP of Gassner's (sheet metal fabricators) at the corner of Wayne Ave. & Apsley. Unfortunately they did not own it. It was bought out by Leed & Northrup. I think the McKees had four children - Sally, the oldest then Paul, Mossie & Molly (I think were 2 different people - one's name was Martha Jane)
Denise Duckworth Tumelty [11-23-2010]

Bud Ballard: You are the master detective on this site and you found another Germantown guy-Larry Farrell. You,Frank Murphy,and Joe leone knew a lot about car movement in G-town. You must have liked John Payne's story about him and Jim Kehan driving one of Berkery's cars and no license and probaly no owner's card. John P. then described the car as a big tuna boat. HE then mentioned Haney et al. Jack Brogan talked about explosives. You knew Clarence Ferguson and he was trying to get the Blaney Bothers to talk. Vince Blaney was found in the water near Margate-he must have been fishing. His brother Richard started his Olds one morning in the Oxford Circle and there was a huge explosion. Ferguson went nuts and The Pottsville case was never solved. Lilian Reis and Ralph Staino have passed away and John Berkery,a very smart Germantown guy,is still enjoying life. Bud! Only you can figure it all out.
JBS [11-23-2010]

Jack Brogan, "Apples" a better driver than Monk & his convertible????
anon ; [11-23-2010]

Jack Brogan> To me that story seems so typical of the Hollow, especially the epilogue. Also, I thought I knew a lot of HH trivia, but I do not remember a Mr. Dutton. Was he one of the counsellors?
John Payne [11-23-2010]

Also Anonymous: You have given me food for thought. Evidently, I am not as funny as I think I am. Thank you for your candor.
Appropriately Anonymous [11-21-2010]

CMM, Why all of the investigating now and not back in 74 when it happened and was fresh. Phila had a very respectable police force then and should have been on top of a case like this. Didnt the family push it then or did someone drop the ball?
anonymous [11-21-2010]

30th Annual Thanksgiving Eve Germantown Reunion at Continental Post, Wissahickon & Hansbury on Wednesday, Nov. 24th, 6pm- ? All are Welcome for all ages, 21 & up.
Member in Good Standing [11-21-2010]

Dan Hartnett...Loved your humerous post questioning the wisdom of Anon sending messages in broken Italian....OOH E OOH AH AH WALLA WALLA BING BANG OOH E.......Paul Borian
Paul Borian, Always press one for english [11-21-2010]

Happy Thanksgiving to all of you Germantoners.It would be interesting to know what some of you guys stuff your birds with, and what kind of side dishes that you prepare. We still stuff the bird even though the word is not to, anymore. If you'd like to share, it might take away from all the bickering just for the week. Hope 'bout it kids. Peace for the week! Does anybody still go back to SFA for mass?
ed burke [11-21-2010]

Ted Silary: You are the Germantown-voice of sports on this site. You have known The Prep AD for many years,Jim Murray. He is not only The AD but also the soccer-coach. He has finally secured the soccer title for The Prep after 40 years. Jim Murray is from W. Stafford St. in Germantown. We have been fortunate to have 3 great soccer coaches from Germantown-Jim Murray,The Prep,Jack Smith[RIP],CD and Duncan Hubley,GA and Penn. Ted! Keep posting, Bor and I have rounded third and we need some good oxygen from this Germantown site.
John Bruce Schmitt [11-21-2010]

John Payne: What a great story. I saw the bomb squad from the court across the street as they crawled all over the "cleaners," next to Sal's. We all watched the police brush out the "delivery truck." I guess they were looking for explosives. When I was older I got to meet the guy who was ripped off in Pottsville, can you believe his name was Rich, and even fished off his boat. I knew about The Cisco Kid's involvement and The Celebrity Room angle, but your story is the best part of the whole thing. I'm sure Jimmy Keehan could drive. His father, Apples, was the best driver anybody at the Hollow ever knew. Jimmy was born knowing how to drive. You have a novel in that story. Write it, but don't include your address.
Jack Brogan, Who remembers Mr. Dutton at H.H? [11-21-2010]

JBS> You are correct about the "running around" relationship and age ranges of Frank Murphy and Chris Maher, but there is another connection; the ladies. Phil Gioioso (sp) married Frank Maher. Phil and my wife Cherry were best friends at the time. Then there was the relationship of the two Franks. I was under the impression that they were cousins. I know there were references to that relationship, but it may have only been a social tag, i.e., "bro". At any rate, we went to several outings together to Dredge Harbor, and the shore with the two Franks, Phil and Cathy, and on some occasions we were joined by Jimmy (Malia) O'Malley, and his wife. Re" the Wyeth's, they were certainly a very artistic family. There was a resurgence of their notoriety when the "Helga" portraits were released. Those were extremely well done, but an extreme departure from the more familiar bucolic paintings of Mr. Wyeth.
John Payne [11-21-2010]

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