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September 2008

To Frank: What a wonderful testimonial to Bob Colesberry you offer. While I was unfamilair with him I did a Google search and found several links offering biographical information. The following link does a nice job of tracing his Germantown roots. Please enjoy and thank you again for sharing your uniqu recollections. http://www.hbo.com/thewire/behindthescenes/robert_colesberry.shtml
Mike Buchanan, Kennett Twp./Chester Co. [09-28-2008]

TO TACKY: Do you remember my father, Gabriel Chiodo? I remember (as a child) him speaking about you. I think you might be the same person. We lived at Church Lane and Belfield Avenue.
Margaret Chiodo-Keller [09-28-2008]

Right on Michael and I feel the same way but was not raised Catholic. It was just a feeling of common sense regarding life. As a mother of 4 I cannot imagine making that choice.
Wilma, Bucks Co. 65 [09-28-2008]

Michael, Your message of 09-26-08 is out of bounds. You have no mandate to discuss anyone's religious belifes-nor even speculate about them. We are all Americans but not all Catholics. Get it? I'll discuss civic virties anyday but we do have a thing called separation of church and state in this nation guaranteed by the First Amedment-read it and shutup.
Jim McKernan, 62, prof. U of North carolina [09-28-2008]

My man Tacky, I am happy to know you are well. Do you remember "Moon Day" in 1969? You and I and Flanno at the Italian Club playing the jukebox drining up my last few days before going to the military-Flanno just back from the war's madness? Someone loved Tiny Tim's "Tip Toe Through the Tulips" I think we wore the record out....and by day's end..our astro guys were on the moon. Hope ye be well Jimbo
Jim McKernan, 62, educator NC [09-28-2008]

hi tacky thanks for responding ... i thought you were the person who hung out with vic ... how are you doing ... hopefully you are well ..., rosemarie
rosemarie hite malageri [09-28-2008]

John Bruce Schmidt, I want to say how much I thoroughly enjoy your messages-always insightful, never critical in a negative sense, and informational; and I come away knowing and "seeing" more than I did before. You are to be saluted for your knowledge-gained as I understand it, empirically, from your many travels-and to places off the usual tourist routes. Thankyou. Keep up this substantive record. This helps me understand the world better. Regarding Balaclava, and the "Charge", I wish to make it clear that there is not an inconsistency in my thesis-as one "anon" critic asserted-that i admire slaughter and then want our troops home-there is no logical inconsistency in my position. Rather, It is my strong thesis-universally accepted, that the English Commanders (Lord Lucan and Lord Cardigan)-at Balaclava-made a stupid order to “charge the valley-take the canons and hold”. They were surrounded by superior numbers and artillery, and they knew this...yet chose to ride into the Valley of Death. Recall the poem's lines "ours is not to reason why-ours is but to DO and DIE" The fact that so many died is indeed a tragic mistake. I did not glorify the slaughter. I glorify the commitment of the chargers to battle orders. What is admirable, and has come to symbolize universal admiration throughout the world-and that is why pupils still learn Tennyson’s Poem ...I learnt it as well as a young lad at St. Vincent de Paul in Germantown...(crafted by Tennyson I understand on a train journey after reading of the battle in a London newspaper three weeks after the event) is simply that-courage is admired and valued. The Chargers did not flinch, but carried out their battle order. The French Grand Marshall Gen. Bosquet, who backed up the Chargers attack, is said to have remarked “The charge was ‘Magnificent’ BUT, it was not War… it was “Madness”. In our present campaign-It was the similar blunderous order to start a war on dishnourable grounds-e.g. "the belief, or rather lie, that the Iraqis had Weapons of Mass Destruction. They did not and our Commander(s)Bush and Powell, errored which is costing life almost daily and will continue to for "the next 100 years" if we elect McCain. The same false basis of an attack which is doubted as ever happening,to this day, on the USS Maddox, cruising in the Tonlin Gulf during 1964 prompted President Johnson to start that war. Some battles are worth fighting because they are "just" even the eventual casualties can be tolerated e.g. WWI & WWII but not frivolous misguided adventures of forign polcy like Vietnam and Iraq. When our leaders learn diplomacy fewer soldiers will perish. I, as an individual, will vote for preserving the lives of our servicemen-and I have not "told" anyone whom to vote for...you must use your power of reason to decide...and that is the purpose of our education system...I have lost one student I taught to the blunders in Iraq, and my son's wide receiver, on his high school football team, has just returned with no legs. May our commanders learn the courage to make wise diplomacy not blunderous decisions like going to war on spurious grounds. P.S. an interesting footnote to the Charge is the fact that a Captain Nolan, of the 17th Lancers, who delivered the confused order-rode out ahead of Lord Cardigan to try to stop the Charge-Cardigan interpreted this in his autobiography as an attempt to steal his glory and would not be headed off. This was at about the time Capt. Nolan was hit with grapeshot and artillery fire -his horse falling on top of him. It is reported, in several sources, that it was Charger Barney McKernan, my ancestor, who joined and "took the King's shilling" as he was starving in Famine Ireland in 1845, when he joined up was the one reported as the charger who cradled (Nolan) in his arms and gave him comfort as he lay dying. Peace. Prof. Jim
Prof. Jim McKernan, Vietnam vet, 62 yrs. North Carolina [09-28-2008]

Frank, I went to school with Bobby Colesberry, and I think you would have made a good movie star. See you at the next reunion.
Dave Linn, Fitler Grad [09-28-2008]

Thank you Susan
Michael [09-28-2008]

if your 14 year old daughter or grandaughter happened to get pregnant from a rape what would be your view on abortion (or the "morning after pill")be then? I think sometimes its best to leave the judgement up to god when that person has to stand before him.
anonymous [09-28-2008]

My family lived on West Clapier Street from 1942 to 1969. We loved the house. We lived next to the Sommer mansion. It is now historic.It used to be Lucy Knight Independent School in 1760. The mansion itself was owned originally by Louis Clapier the man the Street was named after. Any information on this would be appreciated. Thank you.
Helen K. Ianuzzi (nee Harthausen), Northeast Philly 62 years of age [09-26-2008]

yes rosemarie had the gas station atpenn & belfield hung with your cousin vick
tacky [09-26-2008]

anon of 9/24 I was under the impression that the good Professor was a Roman Catholic. I was obviously wrong. I'm Roman Catholic too and I cannot in good conscience vote for anyone in favor of a woman choosing to kill her own baby, regardless of his or her skin color. Here's a lesson: You cannot be Catholic and be pro-choice. I don't care how much education you think you have. Most college graduates that I know tell me that the most important thing that they've learned in college is that they really haven't learned anything, even if they've earned every letter in the alphabet. The point is that I'm a Roman Catholic and I can't let anyone tell me who or who not to vote for. The Catholic church won't even do that. I can only vote for someone interested in preseving life.
Michael [09-26-2008]

nancy zeigler !just a few words on bob colesberry . i was a hairdresser and i had a shop on wayne av 5022 from 1960 t0 1968 .i use to do his mom and sisters hair. he be came a big time producer in hollywood.he produced the scarlet and the natural,and some others.i think mississi burning (not sure about that one)i saw him on tv geting some awards a few years back !he use to come back here and have a big party for his family and some friends. i use to kid his mom and ask her to have him put me in some of his movies. he was good to his mom . i moved out of germantown (wayne ave and moved to roslyn where i open a shop on easton rd and would you belive his sisters and mom moved there (willow grove)and still came to my shop!bob colesberry was very good to his mom . i remember he gave her a master card and told her to pay all her bill from at and to get what ever she needed!what a great son he was to his mom !bob died a few years back i think he was in his late 50's. i was on vacation at that time and a freind cut out his obit. just thought you would like to know how well he turned out and what a great son he was to his mom and family ! frank .
FRANK, north wales age 73 [09-26-2008]

1/2 c. soft shortening
1/2 c. light brown sugar
1 egg
3/4 c. honey
1 c. boiling water
2 1/4 c. flour
1 tsp. baking soda
1/2 tsp. salt
1 tsp. ginger
1 tsp. cinnamon
1/4 tsp. cloves
1 c. raisins

Cream together shortening, sugar and egg. Blend in honey and boiling water. Sift together remaining ingredients. Stir into batter. Add raisins and blend well. Bake in a greased and floured 9 x 13-inch pan. Bake at 325 degrees for 40 minutes. Remove and cool on rack.

4 c. confectioners sugar
1/2 c. soft butter
3 to 4 Tbsp. milk, add more if needed
Combine all ingredients in mixer bowl. Beat at medium speed until light and fluffy.

Michael..Here we go again.. you try it first..LOL Susan
Susan D [09-26-2008]

l Interesting article on Early Germantown Interesting article on Early Germantown
Susan [09-25-2008]

Susan, I'm glad that it worked out for you. No one here remembers a George Washington cake with apples on it. It was usually dark like a chocolate cake with raisins and was topped with either white or dark frosting. I always liked the spanish bar cakes (Jane Parker) from the A&P. I haven't seen anything like it in years. Enjoy your Autumn! Michael
Michael [09-25-2008]

thanks, re the film star hoot gibson. however the hoot gibson i refer to lived in germantown during the 70's and 80's and is a writer/editor....carol knight,
Carol Knight [09-24-2008]

Michael, I thought it was very good,but I still like it with apples.I like gooey cake..
Susan, [09-24-2008]

Peggy, your father was a class act he all ways took the time to say hello and ask how you were doing and also your family. every now and then he wouls slide me and Frank a very bucks to go the movie. However the thing I remember the most was when I told him I was going to Viet Nam and he said quote Garvey why didn't you join the Navy you had to join the Marines however he gave me that smile of his and said Joey just come home safe.
Joe Garvey, Philly [09-24-2008]

Professor McKernan:My wife and I were fascinated with the anecdote about your ancestor[Bernard McKernan] who survived that daunting and dramatic battle of Balaclava in the campaign for Crimea.I learned about the battle of Balaclava from Sister St. Augustine of St.Francis when we read the poem"The Charge Of The Light Brigade" by Alfred Lord Tennyson.In college,I did a term-paper on the Crimean War.I also spent some time in The Crimea.One of the great civilizations of the world belonged to the "Greeks".In the Crimea there is a Grrek colony{CHERSONESS] where there are many ruins.Bakhchisaray is a town in the Crimea where the Khans built a palace during the Ottoman Empire.In this Khan Palace,there is a fountain of tears and a bust of the "Khan" who is mourning the death of the Polish wife in his harem.Alexander Pushkin[Russian poet] wrote a poem named"THE FOUNTAIN OF BAKHCHISARAY"Aother great town in the Crimea is Yaltal where Roosevelt,Churchill, and Stalin met.There are two castles that are exceptional;Livadia and Swallow's Nest.The Swallow's Nest has a magnificent view of the Black Sea.Sevastopol on the Black Sea is a great port where the Russian fleet is anchored.You talked about the Irish and their penchant for horses and riding.I had ancestors from Ireland and the horse is my favorite animal.I went to Saratoga Racetrack with Joe Rooney[tree-surgeon] from East Germantown.I combined my love of the horse and sculpture by looking at monuments with soldiers on the horse.Our Fairmount Park has Generals Meade and Reynolds on the horse.I like General Joshua Reynolds in front of City Hall;this statue was done by John Rogers who was admired by Peter Kapschutschenko-Ukrainian International Sculptor.I also like the statue of the Duke of Wellington in Edinburgh,Scotland.In Kiev at St. Sophia Square,there is monument to Bohdan Khmelnytsky- the famous cossack leader of Ukraine.In St.Petersburg,Russia there is a huge monument to Peter the Great.A poem was written by Alexander Pushkin about this statue;it was called,"The Bronze Horseman".Being a member of the"Lace Curtain Irish",you probaly knew John McShane-Philadelphia builder and philanthropist.John Mc. owned race- horses in Ireland and was very generous to catholic institutions-LaSalle,Prep and St.Joseph's University.
John Bruce Schmitt [09-24-2008]

Oh, the Prof wants us to vote for Obama, silly me. I didnt pick that up Mike and the rest who want to teach us all a lesson. After all we are from Germantown, how would we know that.
anonymous [09-24-2008]

Lived on Greene St. near Apsley between Wayne and Germantown Aves. Enjoyed dances at Trinity Lutheran, biking with my friends to Fernhill Park, tennis, and sledding in Logan and Fernhill Parks. Shopping at Germantown & Chelten Aves. and walking nearly 13 blocks to get there. Enjoyed hearing Do-Wop in the halls and on the grounds of GHS. Belonged to the Candy Stripers at Germantown Hospital. Some names of the days at Fitler Elementary School: Nadine Sloane, Cathy Williams, Carol Rudolph, David Linn, Eddie Lavin, John Petty, Jim Smith, David McCann, Barbara Hartley, Bobby Colesberry. I have pictures of the Safety, Girl Guards, Glee Club and Wrightson/Brandt 6th grade graduating classes. Ah, sweet memories!
Nancy Zeigler, Live in Lansdale, Pa, graduated Germantown HS 1964 [09-24-2008]

tacky are you the same tacky from cow town? rosemarie
rosemarie hite malageri [09-24-2008]

Hello everyone from Germantown just found out about this web site on Saturday night was at 50 wedding anniversity of Rich & Edna Courn from Germantown and St francis Of Assi Green and Logan Sts. if their is any one out their who rembers me please email me i liver at 12 West Seymore St hope to hear from some one
Gerry Mc Gowan, live in Cherry Hill Nj retired just turned 70 and doing great thank God [09-23-2008]

I read several comments here about Victor Errichetti, the funeral director from Chew St. Does anyone have any stories about my dad Frank Gillespie the funeral director from Greene and Logan?
Peggy (Gillespie) Berkey, Colorado Springs, CO [09-23-2008]

Hoot Gibson was a silent film star playing mostly cowboys
Mike Horn [09-23-2008]

Joanne, I got out of St Francis in 68, I also had Sister Peter Damien, I think it was in sixth grade. If i remember correctly she played the organ at church. At the gtn reunion in wildwood this past may, there were a few of us from the class of 68. Some have posted on the germantown brickyard site. You may want to check it out.
Jonh Burke, 54 NE Philly [09-23-2008]

there is an all grade reunion afor immaculate conception alumni in october.contact stephen caine at SCAINE8987@aol.com
kathy clayton [09-21-2008]

To the person who asked about Howard Johnson's my mom worked there in the evenings in 64 & 65 and still talks about the Eagles players coming in after a game. I went to St. Francis of Assisi and graduated in 1968. Anyone out there from that year? I remember my brother played football on the Happy Hollow team. The carnival at St. Francis and Sister Peter Damien which by the way when I went to Archbishop Ryan had her again for Religion class.
Joanne, West Virginia [09-21-2008]

To Anon (09-20-2008) It seems to me the only one with an agenda, which is a "hidden agenda", is yourself. If you wish a learned response to your question/comment sign your name-I request that all others ignore these "anon" blogs as well.
Prof. Jim McKernan, nc, 62 [09-21-2008]

To C. Knight, Rock Hall Md. No, I am not familar with that name.
Prof. Jim McKernan, nc, 62 [09-21-2008]

Every neighborhood has its crackpot. This virtual neighborhood is no different. G'town was big enough to accomadate a variety of people with their divergent views on one topic or another. If someone feels the need to throw stones while hiding behind an anonymous moniker, I say let him/her. Silly rantings about wine and escargo and how the rest of us are not sophistiacted because we eat tomatoe pie. Really? Id rather have a cold beer and a tomatoe pie over wine and snails any day. Or, how about Prof. Jim promoting his "own agenda" using "political trickery". Come on people, let anonymous rant. He can't cause any real harm to anyone and, besides his spelling and usage errors juxtaposed with his pedant writing style is hilarious. Rant on anonymous, rant on.
Mike Horn, cds '65 [09-21-2008]

Prof. Jim McKernan, Do you know Hoot Gibson? ? c. knight, rock hall md.
anonymous [09-20-2008]

Prof..do we have a vote to bring our troops home or is this more political trickery you use this space for to promote your own agenda? You speak of the glory of a charge that ended in a bloodbath and then want us to abandon our resolve before a honorable conclusion. I dont understand your doublespeak.
anonymous [09-20-2008]

John Bruce Schmit, Check out this website which describes Bernard McKernan, last living (in USA) survivor of the Charge of Light Brigade-he is buried at Blackrock Cemetery in Phoexville Pa. not far from Philadelphia. http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=McKernan&GSfn=Bernard&GSbyrel=in&GSdyrel=in&GSob=n&GRid=9928& I saw your post and that of the brother (Kevin McKernan) re:your travels and especially the comments about the Battle of Balaclava (not Crimea) There were a number of key battles in the Crimean War (Sevastopol, Balaclava, Alma, Inkerman) An ancestor of our family, one Bernard McKernan, b. 1817 in Leitrim Ireland died 1897 Phoenxville Pa. during Famine-the Irish are all good with horses and he rode in the famous Charge of the Light Brigade as a member of the 17th Lancers "Death or Glory" This was the part of the Balaclava Battle when 660 English cavalry -rode on a confused order to attack the Turks & Russians / he was one of 102 of the 660 chargers who survived. More than 600 horses were killed in the carnage which goes down one of the most courageous charges ever. Bernard McKernan was wounded 9 times in 13 battles and after Crimea he transferred to a regiment bound for Quebec where he left the army-he settled down in Phoenoxville Pennsylvania marrying a German woman and having a bunch of kids. I have a photo with his medals given by the Queen of England at the Horseguards Parade when the regiment returned to England. I find it fascinating that one of our clan got through this incredible journey (he also fought in India in Sikh Rebellion I did not know of his feats-check out the website I have posted above which details his life.When I was in the Vietnam War the Call Sign for our small unit was Royal Crimean Lancer. Imagine that! You are right about the role of the Irish. In fact per capita more Irishmen died in WWI than in England-many were Ulster Regiments and I believe this is a factor that always weighs in on any talk of Britain abandoning Ulster to a united Ireland. The Crimean War was the first war that newspaper correspondents covered on the battlefield and also which introduced nurses to the front-Florence Nightingale was a heroine at the Crimea. Probably the only good that came of it all. I hope all here will vote to bring our troops home from Iraq and Afganistan this year. Slan. Jim
Prof. Jim McKernan, Germantown born, 62 NC [09-19-2008]

Michael, Ok, I'm going to try this over the weekend.. I'll let you know how it tastes.
Susan D [09-19-2008]

joseph damico [09-18-2008]

Anthony, some areas are like ghost towns on Halloween. In my neighborhood one year there can be hundreds of kids, and other years maybe 20. My daughter lives in Willow Grove and that is about as close to our idea of Halloween as it gets. She buys a lot of candy and every bit of iy goes. Her neighbor has a table on her patio where she serves hot homemade soup, hot cider and cookies to the neighbors and trick & treaters. Her kids go trick or treating for blocks around her neighborhood. I go there to enjoy Halloween.
Sheila Milligan DeNardo [09-18-2008]

Kevin McKernan:I find it surreal that you had an Irish ancestor who survived that horrific battle in the Crimea.I learned about that battle from an Irish nun at St.Francis.The two worst military campaigns conducted by the British were the Battles for the Crimea and Gallipoli.In these two battles,there were great carnage;more Irish died in Gallipoli than Crimea.Winston Churchill bore much of the blame for the disaster that took place at Gallipoli.In school,I learned about Ataturk-the great Turkish leader.He was a commander in the battle of Gallipoli.This was one of the battles that the Turks won in WWI. I never knew any Turks when I lived in Germantown.I spent a lot of time in Germany and many Turks lived there.Do you remember the Lyrics?"It's IStanbul not Constantinople".On the left-coast,there was a Turkish musician named Latif Bolat whose performance was quite mystical and philosophical.In life,I learned every culture has something to offer.I found that the Crimea and the cities on the Black Sea fascinating.Keep your eye on Sevastopol and Ukraine;they might be the next battle-fields.
John Bruce Schmitt [09-18-2008]

ken hook !i lived at 5331 lena st . i remember the hines there was joe, john and i think 2 sisters kate and forgot the other one.i don't remember bollards haveing a store on lena and armat. the store on the conners were wildes and pennis acrossed the street. john hines use to direct trafic at the bottom of the hill when it snowed,so the kids could sled all the way down the hill with out stoping and go as far as churchlane. that hill was a tuff hill for any car trying to go up it when it snowed .i saw manny a car back down from that hill they never made it up ?the snow would get in the cracks of the red brick and pack in tight . john hines is still around .i think he lives some where in harleysvill . john is a great guy !i all so knew mole,carl and mario they were great guys and i can say this about them they were tuff!very friendly but you did not want to get on the bad side of them !my brother hung around with mole jerry conclin, johny d"ambroso. jack ambrose,(jumbo ) john maletto, tim and moun. they were nice guys . frank .
frank, lived on lena st fro 1939 to 1959 [09-18-2008]

hi nicky laz what ever hapend to butchey stwart if you ever see him tell him tacky said hi. ps. we had some good times at the chew
tacky, retired live in levittown since 1971 67 yrs old [09-18-2008]

Susan, I wouldn't add anything. Just leave out the apple sauce and you should be ok. Let me know how it works out.
Michael [09-18-2008]

Heidi Harting:I am honored to write a few comments about your father-ROWLAND "MOLE" ADAMOLI.I went to St. Francis[55] with Mole.He was my classmate and team-mate on the school basketball team.Mole was a character and had character.Even as a teenager,he reminded me of a marine-strong,courageous and loyal.In basketball,he was a team-player but he wanted to win and was very competitive.In soccer,he was the fullback and he protected the goalie and made his job easier.Everybody knew Mole;he was outgoing and very friendly.He liked to have a good time and he had a great party at his home on Ashmead St. when we were in 8th-grade.There were some hot- looking girls in our class.Mole had a very strong personality but he could be compassionate.After my father died,he invited me for lunch to eat his sister's[Jean] good Italian food[Ravioli].He loved his family,I only remember Jean,Carl,and Mario.I believe he also had another older sister.His brother Mario was well liked and respected at GBC.Bud Alexander [director] and Hughie Mooney[coach] liked your father a lot.Mole was a brave marine and hero who died serving our country.Mole had great values;he loved his family,friends,country,and Germantown.
John Bruce Schmitt [09-17-2008]

Talking about Halloween, I don't think anyone mentioned the window painting on Germantown Ave. That's one of the things I remember most, along with all the good candy we did get and weren't afraid of what someone might put in it. We even went to the Alden Park Manor and got a ton. Last year I was at my daughter's in Lumberton. I was dressed for it with a mask and the eerie music playing in the garage to greet the kids. Did not see a one, except for my grandson and his little buddies. Could not believe it. It used to be such a big deal to us. When our kids went trick or treating we used to dress up and go with them. Would love to have those days back.
anthonyg [09-17-2008]

Michael, If I omit the apple sauce should I add more melted butter? won't it be dry w/o the apple sauce or sliced apples?
Susan D. [09-17-2008]

John Bruce Schmidt: John, you sound like a traveling man and I think you might enjoy a little aside to your "Charge of the Light Brigade" mention (9/16/'08). The brother, Prof. Jim McKernan once sent me a piece on a family ancestor that made, and somehow survived that vainglorious charge. And it's been reported that he didn't think highly of ENGLISH leadership thereafter. Always reminded me of what the English did to their Irish regiments at Gallipoli. Waves and waves of young, brave Irishman (and Aussies) thrown away attacking emplace machine-guns. Madness! Folks ought to travel more and listen to Leadership less. Enjoyed your post.
Kevin McKernan, Santa Barbara, CA. Older and wiser [09-17-2008]

Price & Crittendon sure has a storied history. I've heard (and read here) so many stories of that corner, the latest being the Christmas Tree bonfires. Maybe a bit michievous, but they're nice memories of folks that grew up there or lived there. Sadly, it is a very different world over there today. Now, it is a notorious drug corner.
Dennis McGlinchey, Born & raised in East Germantown [09-17-2008]

Andy, No need to worry about Dan Hartnett! As a former neighbor, who lived on Haines Street (1300 block), I remember Dan "hanging out" with my cousin, Ron (who lived next door to me). Recently, thanks to this website, I had the opportunity of reconnecting with the "gang". I enjoyed a delightful brunch with Dan Hartnett, & his lovely wife; Millard Affleck, & his lovely wife; Joe McCormick, & his lovely wife; my cousin, Ron, & his lovely wife. The "gang", reminisced about "the good old days" & caught up on some of their lives as lived today. I can honestly say that all of them have matured into good, honest, God-fearing adults. It was a pleasure being with them. Maybe my short testimonial will eliminate the need for defending the "gang" as they were "back in the day"!
Lorraine (Cupo) Kelly, ic 55; cdhs 59 [09-17-2008]

Halloween in Germantown was a fun time.. Remember the art contest?? I think they where college art students.. They would take days to paint a store front window on Chelten Ave with a Halloween theme. Walking home from school was always fun watching the window turn into Halloween art and doing my best to pick the winners.. Sure couldn’t enjoy anything like that today with the Iron doors on all the stores and the graffiti..
Erda [09-17-2008]

San Fran Man:You must have taken a course in Music Appreciation at Temple to know about the Leo Ornstein School in Philadelphia.John Coltrane and Jimmy Smith studied at this school.I heard Jimmy Smith perform at the Cadillac Club-Broad and Hunting Park in the 60's.I am happy that you mentioned the fact Leo Orstein was Ukrainian and not Russian.Living in Germantown,our next-door neighbor was Logan where many Ukrainians lived.Being a champion of multi-culturalism,this might interest you.In Logan.there is a Taras Shevchenko Park named in honor of the renowned Ukrainian poet.In Logan,Peter Kapschutschenko- the famous Ukrainian sculptor lived.Peter Kapschutschenko had an extraordinary life;born during WW-I,grew up under Communism,suffered during the Ukrainian famine,and had his village decimated by the Nazi war-machine.Peter K. knew about oppression,injustice and pain.His sculptures depicted the suffering of the Ukrainian people during the 20th century.Peter K. talked to me about Poltova,Ukraine where Leo Ornstein was born.The Ukrainians under Hetman MAZEPA lost the battle of Poltova.Consequently,Ukraine lived under Russian dominance for 3 centuries.I visited the battle-field at Poltova and I also went to Crimea where the battle of Crimea was fought.During this battle,many Irish were killed fighting for Great Britain against the Russians.Alfred Lord Tennyson wrote a poem- The Charge of The Light Brigade.I learned this poem at ST. Francis-INTO THE VALLEY OF DEATH,RODE THE 600.Peter K. was an Ukrainian but he connected with other ethnic-groups;he thought that the Irish suffered so much.He admired the Italians for their contribution to art and sculpture.His favorite sculptors were GOD and MICHELANGELO.We were multi-cultural in Germantown,long before it was cool.I learned about Irish,Italian,Jewish,and African-American cultures by living in Germantown.In Logan and Nicetown,we learned Ukrainian and Polish cultures.Is there anything left of the Hispanic culture in the Mission district of San Francisco?PURA VIDA
John Bruce Schmitt [09-16-2008]

I am the daughter of Rowland (Mole) Adamoli, I would love to hear any stories people may know of him as a youngster, teenager. These memories would mean the world to me and my sister. Thank you
Heidi Harting, Marine wife, mother, looking for help. [09-16-2008]

I think a couple of those Christmas tree bonfires occurred near Magnolia and Mechanic. As kids we use to play a lot of Army. I remember once taking an empty CO2 capsule, cramming it full of match heads, installing a fuse and lighting. It acted like a live mortar round. There were plenty of mischievous things we did as kids. Lucky to be alive and a survivor of Gtown.
Ed Farrar, CHester, VA [09-16-2008]

Susan, I cooked it for almost an hour. When I checked it with a tester, it came out clean. When I let it cool and cut it, it was a little gooey inside...as if it hadn't cooked properly. I realized that it was the apple sauce that I used that made it that way. Try the recipe, but omit the apple sauce. My wife's cousins loved it anyway.
Michael [09-16-2008]

Dan, Dan Dan! There you go again! You've already been criticized for your excessive use of violence. Now, we're probably going to have to defend you again for your pyromaniac tendencies. I remember the tree burning well - but 30 at a time - that might be a bit excessive - particularly in the middle of an intersection. I am ROFL as we speak. I remember the intensity of the flames and that wonderful aroma. Question - who moved the burnt trees out of the traffic lanes? What a hoot! That's one thing you don't see anymore - a stack of burning christmas trees in the middle of the street. Thanks for the great memory - and I certainly hope you have rehabilitated yourself to some extent. No wonder all of the homes at Price and Crittenden have been fire-proofed. Take care! Andy
Andy Anderson, Longwood, FL IC'58, CD '62, USN '62 - '66 [09-16-2008]

Loved those Halloweens in Germantown. There's nothing like a row house neighborhood on Halloween. Talk about expediency! We had to go home a couple of times a night to empty out our bags so we ccould go back out and re-load. Carol's Candies used to hand out "apple taffy's" on Halloween night. There was also a blind man on Locust St (as I remember) who gave out full bottles of Coke. Once upon a time, this was a fabulous holiday for kids - wish we could turn back the clock for the youngsters of today. Thanks for the Trick or Treat memories everyone. Go Eagles/Beat Dallas! Andy
Andy Anderson, Longwood, FL - IC '58, CD '62, USN '62-'66 [09-16-2008]

Duncan:I appreciated your comments about Bill Mulvey and Harry Bradley.Bill M. came to the park with many friends but I never knew one of those guys would be the famous judge-Harry Bradley.I wish that I had known him;he had such an intellect and education.At Fern Hill Park,I tried to stay on the court in those choose-up games;the losers had to wait for the next game.Bill Mulvey and his buddies were older;as a teenager,I was happy to play with the old-heads.I passed often,set up picks and screens,played defense and only took good percentage shots.Some of those older guys were great players,I was lucky to play in those games.Bill and Harry both went to Villanova.I believe Bill Green knew Harry from Villanova Law School.Pat Kirk Green married Mayor Bill Green.Pat Kirk lived near you,not too far from the Gtn. Cricket Club.We were fortunate to know so many interesting and decent people from Germantown.
John Bruce Schmitt [09-15-2008]

Michael, Sounds great to me. I will try it your way..
Susan [09-15-2008]

Webmaster, there have been people requesting that you do away with anonymity on this site. I stand with them. I have to disagree when you write: "Requiring a name or an email will hinder the free exchange of ideas. Signing one's name adds credibility to the comments." I think that it's high time for a proper name requirement. A name requirement would do away with the cowards hiding behind negativity. I write that only because of the hostile and outrageous remarks that were previously written here. It's like people get a thrill out of pouring gas on a fire then leaving. How do we know that the anon guy from San Fran isn't someone that we know just playing with us? I also realize that some people forget to sign their names and the word anonymous automatically appears beneath their post. That's a different story. By the way, if you don't mind me asking, what is your name? I've seen it somewhere else before, but forget.
Michael [09-15-2008]

Bill Cupo. I loved Halloween as a kid. I grew up with 6 brothers and 1 sister and we would bring home pillowcases of LARGE candy bars. And loose change. I used to love getting loose change. Went straight to the candy store for more candy. Those were the days when we got enough exercise to work off the calories, thanks to our parents who made us play outside all day until the fire whistle went off at 5.00 pm, then you better have your butt home and at the dinner table or else.
Cheryl Raffle, lived in Gtown 52-64 [09-15-2008]

Anyone remember sleding on Lena ( red bricks) I lived on Lena 5317 (Hines) walked up germantown ave to st vincents every day. Bollards store on corner of lena and Armat? Ken Hoo
ken Hook, Pottstown 61 [09-15-2008]

My Dear Eugene...I corrected my information before you did but I did not do it in a sarcastic (sp) tone. You must have lived in our neighborhood and been friends with my uncles and Bill because you used the words 'totally accurate'. As I said before, my relatives attended schools and were friends with Cosby for many years. Germantown High was a very brief period of his life (not totally accurate because I was not there). Eugene, this is the last post I will write on this site. I thought it would be nice to communicate back and forth for my older relatives that do not have computers but I have quickly changed my mind.
Susan Atkins, Valley Forge,Pa [09-15-2008]

Bill Cupo, I read your Halloween story with fond memories as I lived on Haines St. also and had the same experiences. One other neighborhood seasonal tradition that we engaged in was to scour the neighborhood starting about a week after Christmas for discarded Christmas trees. We would round them up and pile up 30 or 40 of them amd light them up in the middle of the intersection, usually Price and Crittenden. What a fire. Made a quick exit through the alleys before the cops came. Because of those fires and seeing how fast a Christmas tree flames up, I stopped buying real trees later in life.
Dan Hartnett, Former East Germantown [09-15-2008]

Bill Cupo..I enjoyed your memories of Halloweens past. And yes, we did go everywhere trick or treating without a parent tagging along behind us. Those were the days!
Sheila [09-12-2008]

Bruce, Harry Bradley's obit. was in this morning's Inquirer. As it says he went to LaSalle High. He went to Villanova Law School, and came to Fernhill Park many times with his bigger buddy, Bill Mulvey.
Duncan Hubley [09-12-2008]

cheryl you are the best ... i tip my hat to you girl ... anon .. needs to get a real life and then perhaps he won't be as bitter as he is .. and will stop putting everybody down rosemarie
rosemarie hite malageri [09-12-2008]

ohhhh ... rick, you are so right on with that food, yum! rosemarie
rosemarie hite malageri [09-12-2008]

Susan, I hope that you don't mind, but I made some alterations to your recipe. I doubled the batch and used a 12" buttered round pan. Instead of the self-rising flour, I used regular all purpose and added a teaspoon of baking powder. Instead of using the apples on the bottom, I used 4 ounces of apple sauce in the batter. Instead of the walnuts,I used 12 ounces of floured raisins. I baked it at 325 for 50 minutes. It came out fantastic! I used to be a chef/baker, so I'm not afraid to change recipes. The only resason that I changed it was because I don't like apples and walnuts in cake. This is my own personal thing. Thanks again!
Michael [09-12-2008]

Duncan;I am happy that you blog on this site.We need many people who are ecumenical.I only recently found out your religious persausion;this was cool with me.It was interesting to hear the conversation that you had with Steve Belsak-??.I knew many kids whose parents worked for the city and they lived large.You knew some of them but that's history.My classmate[Vince Fumo] is in deep stuff.I now know how Steve B. got stronger under the boards-lifting weights.We had a clubhouse in our basement where we pumped iron and hit the speedbag.I liked the sound of the speedbag over lifting weights.I knew the names that you mentioned-Billy Bittner.Billy B.was a fanatic when it came to body-building.His parents had a bakery and I went to St. Francis[55] with his brother-Gary.I also knew Ed Polaneski who was a friend of Dave Heil-our mutual friend.Dave H. pumped iron in his basement on Copley Road.I lifted weights for extra strenght in sports.I think that we both used weights to jump higher on the court.It did not help me when Billy Person jammed in my face.Those days are over;I hope that we can continue to blog with the fine people who live and have lived in Germantown.
john Bruce Schmitt [09-12-2008]

My dear Susan ... incorrect-o-mundo. Bill Cosby, in fact, did go to Germantown High School for 10th grade. He visited GHS in 1966 to accept some kind of award that the school presented him with. His picture appears in the 1966 GHS yearbook. To be totally accurate, Cosby did attend Central (9th grade) before he attended Germantown High. Bravo and dittos to Cheryl, John, Rick, and others for their reply to Anon from the "Left Coast".
Eugene, Former Germantown Resident [09-12-2008]

If anyone wants info on my Dad, Victor J. Errichetti, the Funeral Director on Chew St. You can email me at jodina@popstar.com I would be happy to correspond with you. JoDina Errichetti
JoDina Errichetti, Victor Errichetti's daughter [09-12-2008]

Correction- My Uncle Jim just corrected me and said he attended Junior High and Central High with Bill Cosby but Cosby left Central to go to Germantown for a brief time before going in the Navy. Sorry for the incorrect information. Their stories of Cosby never included the Germantown High period but were very interesting to say the least. They all turned out to be intelligent and wonderful men. The neighborhood had a posative effect on MOST.
Susan Atkins, Valley Forge [09-12-2008]

Time to take a time out on this site with all the hate filled comments. I'd like to lighten the mood a little if I can. Halloween is coming up in about 6 weeks and I had to laugh at the candy being sold in department stores and supermarkets for this holiday. When did candy bars become so small? When I lived on Haines st., I had to go back home and get another bag for my candy just from Haines st. When I "checked" in at home, I went out with my friends or cousins to the surrounding neighbood streets; Crittenden, Naragansett, Rittenhouse, Brush Rd., Stockton Rd., Price st. etc.. It was so exhausting going up and down steps with a terrible mask on(one that probably wouldn't be able to be sold today for safety reasons)and carrying another shopping bag of candy. Imagine today going into neighborhoods without your parents for hours at a time. No problem when we lived there. My mom would go through bags and bags of candy every year, the big candy bars too. One year, she made candy apples. Wow what a mistake that was. When word got out, she was swamped with kids. I think she made 50 and could have gone through another 100 or so. Oh well, those days are sadly gone, but not forgotton. Just another reason to love Germantown and the memories that go with that neighborhood.
Bill Cupo, Chalfont, Pa. [09-12-2008]

Charlie Peterson - It must have been "brain food" that your Momma fed you as your words bespeak a man of infinite wisdon. I will, in the future, try to abide by your sound advice. However, the Germantown kid inside me demands that I defend myself and my friends against "outsider" attacks. That said, there is much truth to what you said and I will try harder to "turn the other cheek" in the future. Thanks for chiming in! Andy
Andy Anderson, Longwood, FL - IC '58, CD '62 - US Navy 62 - 66 [09-12-2008]

From Wikipedia Bill Cosby was born and raised in West Philadelphia, the son of Anna Pearl (née Hite), a maid, and William Henry Cosby, Sr., a cook for the U.S. navy.[2][3] He was one of four brothers. During much of his early childhood, Cosby's father was away in the US armed forces and spent several years fighting in World War II. As a student, he described himself as a class clown. Cosby was the captain of the baseball and track & field teams at Mary Channing Wister Elementary School in Philadelphia, as well as the class president.[4] Early on, though, teachers noted his propensity for clowning around rather than studying.[5] At Fitz-Simmons Junior High, Cosby began acting in plays as well as continuing his devotion to playing sports.[6] He went on to Central High School, an academically challenging magnet school, but his full schedule of playing football, basketball, baseball, and running track made it hard for him.[6] In addition, Cosby was working before and after school, selling produce, shining shoes, and stocking shelves at a supermarket to help out the family.[6] He transferred to Germantown High School, but failed the tenth grade.[7] Instead of repeating, he got a job as an apprentice at a shoe repair shop, which he liked, but could not see himself doing the rest of his life.[6] Subsequently, he joined the Navy, serving at the Marine Corps Base Quantico, Virginia, Naval Station Argentia, Newfoundland and at the Bethesda Naval Hospital in Maryland.[8] Cosby is a member of the Omega Psi Phi Fraternity. While serving in the Navy as a Hospital Corpsman for four years, Cosby worked in physical therapy with some seriously injured Korean War casualties,[8] which helped him discover what was important to him. He immediately realized the need for an education, and finished his equivalency diploma via correspondence courses.[9] He then won a track and field scholarship to Philadelphia's Temple University in 1961,[10] and studied physical education while running track and playing fullback on the football team. However, he had continued to hone his talent for humor, joking with fellow enlistees in the service and then with college friends. When he began tending bar at the Cellar, a club in Philadelphia, to earn money, he became fully aware of his ability to make people laugh. He worked his customers and saw his tips increase, then ventured on to the stage.[11] Cosby left Temple to pursue a career in comedy. He lined up gigs at clubs in Philadelphia and soon was off to New York City, where he appeared at the Gaslight Cafe starting in 1962.[6] He was discovered by actor Carl Reiner, who enjoyed Cosby's brand of humor. Later, the university would grant him his Bachelor's degree on the basis of "life experience." Cosby's career took off quickly, and he lined up dates in Chicago, Las Vegas, San Francisco, and Washington DC, among others. He received national exposure on NBC's Tonight Show in the summer of 1963 and released Bill Cosby Is a Very Funny Fellow...Right!, the first of a series of popular comedy albums in 1964. He was able to return to finish his BA from Temple and received an MA and Ed.D. from the University of Massachusetts in 1972 and 1977, respectively. Cosby's Ed.D dissertation was entitled, An Integration of the Visual Media via Fat Albert and the Cosby Kids Into the Elementary School Curriculum as a Teaching Aid and Vehicle to Achieve Increased. FULL POST http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Cosby
Michael [09-12-2008]

You're welcome Michael. I hope it's as good as the bakery version..
Susan [09-10-2008]

I do not remember walnuts or apples involved with g-washington cake

Anon..How astute you are in noticing that Gtown was a neighborhood of working class Americans that like to eat drink and have fun. I guess you could have picked that up by watching any Phillies or Eagles game. As far as our dining on poor food, as you call it, and our taste in music. I can attest that there is nothing finer than eating snails, mussels in white sauce, crabs, clams and other assorted poor food we ate all our lives. Also add a good bottle of red and crusty bread with that and listen to Sinatra and Mathis with your favorite partner. I venture to say you have never enjoyed eating like that until it became popular. By the way top that off with a good cup of coffee and home made biscotti which our families made and brother dont even try to top it.
rick rizzo [09-10-2008]

Bill Cosby went to Central High School and quit school after the 10th grade. He did not go to Germantown High. He lived in low income housing along with my entire family. I think he went in the navy if I remember correctly. He was friends with my two uncles at that time. Susan Atkins
Susan Atkins, Valley Forge,Pa [09-10-2008]

San Francisco dude:I had a background in cryptography but I am unable to decipher your unusual language.I did experience the Germantown "Demeanor".It was a controlled demeanor that the guys at the "Contiental"[American-Legion] had.These were proud and honorable men who served their country proudly.These men were tough both mentally and physically.They were trained in the elements of warfare;nobody would want to diss these warriors.There were no fights at the Continental;there was a controlled demeanor because there was always respect for our brother- veterans.You used the adjective-sartorial.For us,our sartorial attire was displayed when we went to Sunday-Mass.I went to St.Katherine's where the congregation was highly integrated.Jimmy Harris[black-kid] was very good with his fists but he entered the Vincentian seminary.Herb Adderly lived on my block;he was not a white catholic but one of the greatest athletes to come out of Philadelphia and Germantown.You live in one of the most beautiful cities in the U.S.San Francisco and Kiev are two of my favorite cities of the world-both on a hill.I gather you hang out with the Escargot group in San-Fran.Personally,I prefer the ethnic- places and neighborhoods.There are great restaurants in Little-Italy and China-Town.Escargot is good with garlic.I know a good place in San Isidro named Caffe Trieste where you can have Italian delicacies and good java.It was a cool place but snails wo'nt be found there and one can mellow out on the Adriatic by the Bay.
John Bruce Schmitt [09-10-2008]

Anon. on your remarks calling us dogmatic white Catholics! Who eat poor tomato pie.? You need to get a life sir! Actually you need to get off this site. The people here no matter what color, race, sex, religion all enjoy talking about old times. And if they include remarks on TOMATO PIE . SO WHAT?? You are the reason there is so much hatred in the world. GO AWAY and leave these good people alone. Hey come Christmas I will post some good cookie receipes. And just for Anon one may contain dog food because the only Dogmatic in here right now, is you. Now put your tail between your legs and get back to whatever BAY you come from.
Cheryl Raffle, lived in GTown 52-64 [09-10-2008]

I would like to offer up a proposal to our hard working webmaster that no more Anonymous posting be accepted on this site. Anyone who hides behind a veil of anonymity has no good reason to have anything of truthful substance to offer. Regardless of ethnic background, color, food preference, we are all children of God & one day we shall be held accountable for our actions regardless of our intellect or achievements in life. So, all of you anonymous ghosts out there don't be like Adam in the garden, cover up & run after you've made a mistake. Be a person & use the Christan name you were given. NO MORE ANON. BLOGS, Please.
[Webmaster's note: Requiring a name or an email will hinder the free exchange of ideas. Signing one's name adds credibility to the comments.] Bernie/ Chesapeake bay Md.
Bernard Mc Kernan, Baltimore, Md 67yrs. [09-10-2008]

My dearly departed Mother never said I was fat or overweight or pudgy as a kid growing up in Germantown. She always told me I was "big boned". That didn't stop the name calling and hurt feelings until I figured out what my response should be. It was laugh with them and ignore them. The ridicule hit a brick wall. The moral of this is to ignore these and all negative postings and enjoy the wonderful memories of Germantown. If anon from CA didn't get one response, he or she goes away and we can, again, enjoy memory lane. I know it's tough to ignore but it is much better than to perpetuate the negatives. Charlie
Charlie Peterson, IC 54' NC 58' LaSalle 71' [09-10-2008]

Victor Errichetti, born 01/04/1913, died 04/00/1972.
Philly Genealogist [09-09-2008]

Anom: Lighten up already. Iknow a litle about the blues too. You know this one?? It's a poem. Heh,dont wana be invoved in this one hugh? This here is gonna be a blues number. But first I wanna do a little-bit of background on the blues And say what it is. Like, there are 6 cardinal colors And colors have always come to signify more than one particular shade. Like:"red-neck" or "got the blues" That's where you apply somethin to a color, to express what you are trying to say. So, there are 6 cardinal colors: Yellow, Red, Orange, Green, Blue, and Purple. And there are 3,000 shades. And if you take these 3,000 and divide it into 1/6th, you got 500. That means that there are atleast 500 shades of The Blues. For example, there is...... The "I ain't got no dough, blues". There is the "I ain't got no woman blues". There is the "I ain't got me no money AND I ain't got me no woman", which is the double blues. For years it was thought that Black people was the only ones who could get the blues. So the Blues hadn't come into no kinda international fame.(...had a corner on the market.) But lately, we had... The Frank Rizzzo with the "Lie Detector Blues". We done had the United States government talkin bout the "Energy Crisis Blues". And we gonna dedicate this next poem here to Spearhead X. The Ex-Second in Command in terms of this country. (He GOT the blues.) And the poem is called the H2O G-A-T-E Blues." And if H2O is still water And G-A-T-E is still gate. What we gettin ready to deal on is the "Watergate Blues" ....... by Gil Scott-Heron
anonymous [09-09-2008]

Dear Anon. in the City by the Bay, "Your thought" as posted on this site suggests (to me) that you did not attend a Catholic school. If you had, your grammar, punctuation, and sentence structure would have indicated that, and they do not!
Lorraine Kelly, cdhs 59 [09-09-2008]

to lynne. thank you i would like that. i would like to here from my old friends and how they are today.
rich [09-09-2008]

chinney i loved victor ... he was such a nice man .. and handled many of my family members funeral services ... in fact when he died we felt as though we had lost not only a friend but one of our family memnbers ..., rosemarie
rosemarie hite malageri [09-09-2008]

Wendy, tell Ed he missed a couple of Germantown Reunions. Also tell him John (Porp) Gallagher passed away and his Memorial service is Sat. Sept. 13th, give me a call if interested.
Dave Linn, GBC Alumni [09-09-2008]

thank you Susan. I'll try it and let you know. Since I don't like walnuts in cake, I'll nix them and replace them with raisins.
Michael [09-09-2008]

I am looking for anyone related to an O'Connell/Coleman family from St. Vincents. My great-grandparents were a Richard Coleman and Mary O'Connell married in St. Vincents in 1877. Trying to find anyone who knows whereabout in Ireland they were from
Wilma, 65 Bucks Co. [09-09-2008]

anon [09-08-2008] Your misuse of the word "Sartorial" makes me laugh. The word Sartorial comes from the Italian word Sarto and means Tailor....you know, a guy who makes clothes and suits. It's very apparent that you have a very serious problem. Criticizing the people of Germantown and their food preferences, yet if anyone mentions chicken or watermelon then they're a racist right?. I guess that you survived on Lobster and Fillet mignon most of your life. You might want to get checked for Mercury poisoning too. I'm white and I happen to like chicken,watermelon, and collard greens and I'm far from being a peasant or a racist. I also have friends who are decent hardworking African Americans. I don't think that they would approve of your remarks either. In fact, I like them better than some white people that I know. I'm also very proud to say that I'm a devout Roman Catholic. I didn't realize that this site was limited to Roman Catholics either. That's news to me. Since you come off thinking that you know everything, the Irish and the Italians did more for Germantown and for the rest of the country than any other ethnic group. FACT. They didn't come to America to sponge from society. They went to work every day. P.S. Be a man and tell us who you are. Don't be afraid and stop hiding behind the word anonymous. We're all very friendly people here.... just sharing our good thoughts about the people, places, and foods of Germantown.
Michael [09-09-2008]

Dave Linn - I am married to Eddie Lavin. Did not live in Germantown but have heard so many stories about GBC etc etc. This is a great website!
Wendy Lavin, Mont Clare, 54, [09-08-2008]

Jim Smith, here's some more names: Ronald Barksdale, Nathan Balasco, and Stephen Shammey. Do you remember them?
Fitler Kid Dave, Fitler 58' [09-08-2008]

Dan Hartnett, Did you by any cnace have a family member who taught at Doughtery?
anonymous [09-08-2008]

George Washington Cake
•3 eggs
•2 cups granulated sugar
•1 cup oil
•2 cups self-rising flour
•2 teaspoons cinnamon
•1 teaspoon vanilla extract
•1 cup chopped walnuts
•4 cups peeled, sliced apples
•6 ounces softened cream cheese
•1/4 cup melted butter
•2 cups confectioners sugar
•1 tablespoon lemon juice

Beat eggs until thick and light. Combine sugar and oil at medium speed. Mix cinnamon with flour. Add to egg mixture. Add vanilla flavoring and walnuts. Mix all together. Distribute sliced apples evenly in bottom of long 2 or 3-quart baking dish. Spread mixture evenly over apples. Bake at 350 degrees F from 45 minutes to 1 hour. (Watch cake and do not overcook.)

Mix cream cheese until fluffy, add butter and mix. Add sugar, then lemon juice. Mix all together well. Spread over cool cake. Slice apples thin with peeling on. Dip in lemon juice. Arrange in rows on top of iced cake.

Susan [09-08-2008]

John B. Schmidt you do have a sartorial demeanor and wit also sense of history and humor. Thanks be god. BUT John Coltrane did not live ever in Germantown. This genius was at the Leo Ornstein (Jew/Ukranian composer) school way back..and this may explain some of his innovative musicality. Bill Cosby was born in west philly and actually quit Germantown high and Temple for other ventures i.e US Navy. He did not reside as I understand it ever in Germantown Pizza-never--that is simply dog food the world over bread n cheese the stuff for peasants...now jazz n beer or better wine and some scallops n aged cheese or escargot would be better than bread or what your guys love-tomato pies.. thats poor food. Oh yes i do know jazz and do you know its roots? Black america. But this web site seems to be for dogmatic white Catholics..dear me Anon, in the City by the Bay
anon [09-08-2008]

Ed, I can't remember the year that Victor Errichetti died. I know that the funeral parlor became a doctor's office. You're right. He was a good man with a good sense of humor.
Chinney [09-08-2008]

Bruce. I remember Steve Belsak. He was a tall skinny kid, then he met the Polaneski brothers and Billy Bittner. Lifted weights and became more confident. One day we argued about of all things whose father made the most money. I think he won. His father was a union boss. My dad sold water meters to the city of Philadelphia. Both made about $6,000 a year. Bill Mulvey was a nice guy.How about Woody Band,Herb Scott, and chrles Koch. We went to the Wayne Presbyterian Church on Wayne Avenue. You probably don't know them. they never came to Fernhill Park. They lived on Pulaski Avenue across from Mulvey. They were into girls, not basketball.
Duncan Huubley [09-08-2008]

Ed, my dad was real good friends with Victor Errichetti. They used to have drinking parties with the coffins. How sick . lol, Not sure if he is dead or not but I always remember him as being old.
Cheryl Raffle, lived in GTown 52-64 [09-08-2008]

Hey Miriam and Phyllis Rosenthall I remember you guys well. I'll never forget throwing toys at your brother Carmen while we hid behind an ironing board one day when he was babysitting me Karen and John. If he wasn't bruised I'm sure his ego was. Didn't he go in the navy? Check out the St Mike's class pic's on Germantownbrickyard.com. Joe DePero
Joe Depero, levittown, 51, st mike's [09-06-2008]

I remember Victor Errichetti. I did some small chores like cut the grass and such at the funeral home. He had a tremendous sense of humor, especially when people were grieving over the loss of a loved one. May of the folk in the Gtown Street area knew him well. Does anybody know when he passed away? Did someone else taking over the funeral home?
Ed Farrar, Chester, VA [09-06-2008]

on e-bayold photo photo #120300103110 1928 Germantown Basketball Team Names Front row John Verbecken, Dutch Hoffman,2nd Row J.O. Donnell, Dick Brennan L.D. McCaffrey M. Goodnell. Back Row J.B. Breslin Jake Horn (Coach Bill Bradley) Hick Mc Creight. Names skipped a couple of spaces on the back
JC [09-06-2008]

anyone remember ann and eds on sprague st
joe [09-05-2008]

thank you Bill, Frank and Raymond for the info on the Washington cakes. I'll probably end up going to Mary Ann's in Doylestown. Thanks again!
Michael [09-05-2008]

Vinney Lyons just found this site, from a friend,and man what a football team .Kinger. tommy packy. and you. and mondrosch. Marty was a little younger.I played one Quater and Dee made me sit on the bench,joe cutri and Jake Marucchi complained I stunk of garlic All the time. ( heck I lived next to piffanis market . Provolone .sharp cheeses .garlic pickles sallami. chinneese applels.pepperoni. pickled garlic cloves.probabably.why Burnaddett Mangino cringed at our holy Rosary prom.any way I ended up as the shoe cleaner on the bench.hey any one have hot peppers and Garlic
tony [09-04-2008]

To Anonymous and Rich from Huntingdon Valley. Yes, lots of us from Chelten and Morris are still around. Rich, if you mean Jimmy and Sally O'Connell from Morris Street, Sally is married to Paul Ginty (also from Morris St.) There was a small Chelten & Morris reunion earlier this year. If they have another on I'll let you know.
Lynne [09-04-2008]

Michael, Schenks'Bakery, when they were on Clapier St. in Germantown used to make Martha and/or George Washington Cake. I'm not sure if they still make it. I remember them giving it out at Holloween to all the trick or treaters. I go there for the Butter cake, Cinnamon buns and German Christmas cookies They're at 7951 Verree Rd. 215-722-0997
Bill, Philly [09-04-2008]

25 cents got you a quarter of george washington cake at bittners bakery in the late 50tisse vanella or chocolet icing. sprinles depending on the holiday.
RAYMOND EDWARD DAWES, 65 from 33 e clapier st [09-04-2008]

Hi Michael. Haegeles Bakers 4164 Barnett St.,Phila Pa. 215- 624-0117. They opened their business about 75 years ago. They make a very good George Washington Cake. To be sure it's what you are looking for call them and ask. Frank Surgner
Frank Surgner, Northeast Phila. [09-04-2008]

Duncan:I remember Ralph Gatto and Jim McIntyre from my Germantown days.Rowland[Mole] Adamoli and I played football against Ralph G. at "Happy Hollow.I played football with Jim Mc. at Fern Hill Park.I was happy to catch those missles that he launched;he was an excellent quaterback and had a good college career in Connecticut.Larry White of Tommy Moore told me what a gteat passer -Jim Mc. I believe Jim stops for a taste at Joe Coll's place- Glenside Pub.Joe Coll was from G-town- Immaculate.Duncan!Tom Wilkins[W.Bringhurst] told me that Bill Mulvey died.You and I would agree that Bill was a good guy.Do you remember Steve Belcak from Fern Hill?He played a decent game[basketball].
John Bruce Schmitt [09-04-2008]

Dan you have the right guy. We were with Ronnie a lot in those days. He would be at my house and Donnie and I at his. You lived on Haines st near my aunt Mary Helsen. She had Jerry, Elaine, Sandy and Mike. Didnt you come down to Podells or Moms with Ronnie and John Christman? Remember Harry Miller and Ray Beamsterfer? They were great times and we always had something to do in the neighborhood.
rick rizzo [09-04-2008]

Does anyone know where to get a half decent George Washington cake in Montgomery county? My sister-in-law made a special trip to Doylestown for it(MaryAnn's pastry shop). MaryAnn's was formerly in Germantown (215) 230-8885. For those keeping tabs......George Washington cake is and was loved by many from Germantown.
Michael [09-02-2008]

Hey you guys and gals from Happy Hollow. What ever happened to James McIntyre and Ralph Gatto. Both were good footballers for North Catholic.
Duncan Hubley, Age 68 [09-02-2008]

To Rick Rizzo: I saw your post on Carsons. Did you live on Rodney St. and have a brother Donnie? I remember being at a house there with Ronnie DiMaria and it was his cousin's house. If so, I remember you both even though I did not know you well.
Dan Hartnett, Former East Germantown [09-02-2008]

Jack, Millard had six kids I believe. I also remember that we used to play pinochle in his house with his parents as well as the guys on the corner. Real nice people. When we had a few bucks instead of going to Carson's we went to Marble Hall or Fischers. One thing nice about Carsons was you could run across the field, down the embankment, across the dock and hit the air with a big dive and hit the water well past the middle of the creek. Even more fun was doing it from the other side where the bank was high. Best of all, it was free. Lottsa good memories. How are you doing? I remember your brother Mike and your younger sister Mary and your dad worked for the post office. I just drove by the corner the other day for the first time in years with my wife. She was begging me to get out of there. Bad news. Take care and be well.
Dan Hartnett, Former East Germantown [09-02-2008]

To Anon and Enrico: My last words on this subject which is turning into all the nasty stuff thrown at Frank Rizzo and it doesn't belong here. Vince Lyons and Teresa Raffaele said it best. I am 69 years old not 19 as I was in stories posted here. No one used clubs, knives or guns then and lessons were taught and learned. How you ever stretched that into any of us becoming violent people I'll never understand. Violence does have a legitimate place in defense of justice. Check out the American Revolution, The Civil War, WWII, etc, and anyone that defends his person, family or property. You should get a life and discuss your inner conflicts with your therapist.
Dan Hartnett, Former East Germantown [09-02-2008]

Jim Smith, I think you have Porp mixed up with someone else because he was the same age as us, maybe even a half year younger that us. I'm going to look for that class picture and the Safety Patrol picture too. I do remember playing for the Fitler soccer team. I ran into Craig Middleton a couple years ago down the shore, but I believe he moved to upstate Pennsylvania. When I was working in Germantown about 15 years ago I stopped by Fitler and met the Principle of the school and toured my old Alma Mater, I ask her about our school song and she didn't know anything about it. Wow! How things have changed. It would be nice to see all out old classmates again.
Dave Linn, Fitler Class of 58' [09-01-2008]

Nicky Lazaro, are you the same Little Nick who worked with Utilities Line Const. in the late 60's in the northeast. If it is, I hope you are doing well and staying healthy. We had a lot of laughs on that job. vince lyons
Vince Lyons, 63yrs old in N.J. [09-01-2008]

Mike C, Are you a plumber?
Michael [09-01-2008]

teresa raffaele amen to all you said ... you are right on, rosemarie
rosemarie hite malageri [09-01-2008]

Just a reminder that there is still time to get your tickets for the "Friends of Immaculate" reunion on October 19, 2008. This is not limited to alums of the school, as any and all friends of Immaculate and Germantown are welcome. Much is planned. Email me for more information.
Dennis McGlinchey, Born & raised in East Germantown [09-01-2008]

erda we must know each other.i know all of the people you have mention ginny woods used to go out with charlie kelley i remember when donney died and his brother a month later. Glenn kelley just died about a year ago i have lost touch with so many of the people i used to hang around with. its great to read thees post
rich, huntingdon valley pa [09-01-2008]

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