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May 2008

i agree ... rizzo was a tough guy but he did his job and kept our neighborhoods safe ...
rosemarie hite malageri [05-31-2008]

Who's a racist now, Jim Mc? Your reference to the white Italian community was really out of line. Frank Rizzo was loved by all races and all religions. He surrounded himself, with his appointees, with people of color and all religious backgrounds. That did not matter to him. Was the city a better place to live back then or now? I guess not, according to you. You don't even live in the area anymore and now you're fleeing the country.
anthonygi [05-31-2008]

Jim Rhodes,Chubby Checker has a brother Tracy who owns a garage in Germantown where he works on vintage cars,maybe I should correct that and say that he was still there back in the late 90's when I was still working for "Sam Sam the Roofing Man" and we did work for him.Tracy was a cool guy with some really cool cars!
Michael Henigan [05-31-2008]

who cares if rizzo was a good guy or a bad guy..this site is about Germantown.
anonymous [05-31-2008]

Eileen Burns - Thanks for the nice comments about my mother. She passed away May 17, 2002. She did love talking about your mother and all the fun they had at work and at play. Hope you and your family are well.
joyce radocaj ruggero, Warwick (Bucks County) St. Francis '62 [05-31-2008]

To the good professor..you sir are a complete ass. I dont think you were ever in nam and should stay their in Ireland. Its a shame you are a professor, so you say, and are teaching children with your twisted thoughts and opinions. Its people like you that have ruined this great country and you sir should consider staying out of it.
rick rizzo [05-31-2008]

Professor Jim McK: BYE! Have a nice flight back to Ireland. Are you leaving soon?
Martha [05-31-2008]

Responding to the Professor's remark "Rizzo was a rasicts" You write things and can't back them up. Go talk to the older blacks who were around when he was Mayor, and ask them about him. I'll bet that most of them tell you how safe they felt and how much they were against MOVE in Powelton Village and in West Philly. By the way PROFESSOR, the word is spelled R A C I S T.
Jim [05-31-2008]

Yes Joe, I agree. We could use a President like Frank Rizzo too BUT we all know..... THAT WILL NEVER HAPPEN. Someone like him could never be a puppet for anyone or any political party.
Michael [05-31-2008]

I am not the smartest guy in the world, far from it. I suffer from dyslexia and HAAD. I have to visualize things in my head to understand what people are saying in other words I need to see to understand. Example, when our infamous Professor posted his Degrees I had to come up with a visual picture of something that had all those Degrees, the only thing I could think of was a rectal thermometer. James speaks of Ireland as the Perfect utopia. He speaks of injustice, racism and his crusade to do something about it when he can. His last line in his last posting and I quote “ where I am a citizen and where folks can be against politicians and wars--IRELAND ERIN GO BRAGH Jim” Gee! no one told me that the IRA became a fun loving group that just wants to march in the St. Pattie’s day parade, or Northern Ireland and the Orangeman just love the folks in Ireland. Wasn’t there a lot of killing going on in Belfast. The professor in his narrow view of things failed to see that while cities were set ablaze in Detroit, LA, Atlanta, New York, and Chicago. Rizzo did not have to have the education that James had to know that the people of Mt Airy, Germantown, Fern Rock, North Philly were not trying to burn down there neighborhoods. He went to where they were trying to torch their neighborhoods. Racism is a cancer but James is one of those people that believes that only Whites are racist. I know of bunch of guys on this site who went into Law Enforcement and defended equality. We have to deal with the Black Panthers, The Black Liberation Army, MOVE, but just as bad, we had to deal with the Weatherman, KKK, SDS, Skinheads. We fought them with all we had. There are countless white faces 6 feet under, that died in the name of Civil Rights including Law Enforcement officers of all colors. James, what did you do besides standing near the blarney stone spitting out your hatred for this Country? I’m sorry I over looked your 3 major battles in Vietnam. There is only one group of Heroes and any one can see who they are just by going to the Wall. I said my piece. Andy Anderson don ’t leave, we need people like you an Dolly and Don Hartnett and others to keep the good times coming. So “UP YOUR ERIN GO BRAGH” James.
Ron [05-31-2008]

Chubby Checker, Lola Falona, Rufus Harley and Jimmy Smith all lived in walking distance of each other in Germantown. Chubby Checker actually lived two houses in on Haines Street from Chew and drove a white Rolls-Royce. Two really good friends, Manual Williams and Steven Garnett, lived a block away from them.
Jim Rhodes, Minnesota, 55, Tulpehocken & Gardenia Streets [05-29-2008]

Hi Everyone, I grew up in Germantown and attended Our Lady of the Rosary from 1960-1969. I have very good memories and in fact, just recently moved from there as I was rasing my daughters in the same house in which I grew up on Gardenia St. Would love to hear from anyone who may know me. If not, good thoughts of Germantown for all of us.
Marion, Philadelphia, PA 52 years old [05-29-2008]

G-Town was a great place to live in the 60's.my frist love in 68 or 69 move to Ohio.
Bobby Taylor [05-29-2008]

Andy Anderson, I am so sorry, I hated to answer that ignorant posting by the Professor, as I was replying I could hear Frank saying " Don't waste your time Dolly he ain't worth the trouble " BUT, Frank Rizzo was a man who defended those who could not defend themselves, how could I not reply in all consciousness . People say you either loved or hated Frank Rizzo, I say those who loved him knew him and those who didn't were jealous of the enormity of his presence . You didn't have to meet him to know him, he was your Father, Brother, Son, Husband, he was your protector, your friend and most of all he was your security, you could always " Bank on Frank "
Dolly, NE Philly [05-29-2008]

Kudos and accolades to Jim, Sheila, Dan, Rick, and especially Dolly for their comments offered in defense of Frank Rizzo. He was feared by some, respected by most, and beloved to all of those who he protected. God bless him.
Fran, Born & Raised in Gtn [05-29-2008]

Now I know why I haven't visited this site like I used to. It seems to be nothing but essays and short stories of bickering and bad mouthing one another. What happened to all the good things people used to write about? It's funny how Frank Rizzo wanted to keep the corners cleared and more police presence and a lot of the neighborhoods didn't want that. Now you see what's happening and now they are calling for more police presence. Well I think it's a little late for that. The thugs have taken over. Just look around at our old neighborhood.
anthonyg [05-29-2008]

I love that statue of Frank Rizzo. The only problem with it is that it isn't big enough. It's wave is indicative of a friend who was there if you needed him. In addition to being a tough Police commissioner and Mayor, he was also a friend to those who needed employment and other help. He helped so many people to obtain gainful employment, including members of my own family. So don't you ever dare come back on this site again and write another negative word about Frank Rizzo. He served well the people of Philadelphia and died doing it.
anonymous [05-29-2008]

Regarding Frank Rizzo: My uncle served under Frank Rizzo. He was a Lieutenant in the 22nd district and then was assigned to the special police buses that were rushed into hostile situations. He admired Rizzo as a firm but fair man. Mr. Rizzo despised anyone who terrorized neighborhoods and made people's lives miserable. He fought to have anyone of any race imprisoned for crimes they committed. When he died, the funeral procession proceeded up Ozontz Ave. to the cemetary in Mt. Airy, a neighborhood that Frank Rizzo formerly lived and loved. I recall thousands of people along Ozontz Ave; most African-American, cheering and waving to the funeral car. They were some that were crying because they held him in such high esteem for his fight against crime in their neighborhood. Say what you will; he's one of Philly's great people in my opinion.
Bill Cupo, Immaculate Conception School [05-29-2008]

Frank Rizzo: When I was 12 or 13 Artie McKeown & I used to work/hang out @ Rock Hill Stables. Frank Rizzo had a horse there & rode for please & relaxation. He was always cordial and great w/ everyone & was well liked. Yes, Frank Rizzo was tough & might have used some strong methods to maintain peace. What we need in this country "right now" are more Frank Rizzos--DON'T YOU ALL AGREE??
joe taylor [05-29-2008]

philomena citro [05-29-2008]

Kathy Clayton, sent wrong e-mail so sorry like i said left ST joes around 69 i went to holy rosary may be you no some one who went there. e-mail me at angiecruz86@yahoo.com angie
Angela Cruz, nj.52 [05-29-2008]

To Joyce: Your memory is correct. I have another brother also. I am the youngest of 5. I saw your memorial post in Germantown Brickyard for someone who was your mom's best friend but I don't think you left an e-mail address. I have told Mary Catherine about some of the Germantown sites but I'm not sure if she has taken a look. John D, I remember you and some of your cousins. I post in GermantownBrickyard site more than here. Good to see your name and recollections. the bus had to slow down cause of the turn at Greene st. Did Skip ever ride it to the post office? lol This whole Rizzo thing has taken the heat off Bernie for stealing some change. Even good men with good intentions make some mistakes. He was who he was and I don't think that was a bad thing for that time. He certainly wasn't a Quaker or Ghandi but he had no problem sending a message. Like Sheila said he "shot straight from the hip" and you knew where he stood.
Jim McGinley, 45 philly [05-29-2008]

Jim McKernan: Are you the same Jim McKernan that went to the dances at the Knights of Columbus on Chelten Ave. If you are, you used to be a great dancer. I realize that people change but you have become very philosophical about life and life in Germantown. I was from Immaculate and what I remember was a place where everyone knew everyone, where children could play outside especially in the summer until they were exhausted so that when they came in to go to bed they would go right to sleep because we did not have air conditioning. I agree that Frank Rizzo ran this city with a iron fist, some of it was wrong but most of it was to keep this city protected from violence. Around Immaculate, you had your black communities but it was rare that problems occurred and if they did they were dealt with properly. We all wish we could back to that time of our childhood when life was good and easy even if you did not have all the luxuries of today. Life was simple but oh was it good. Let me also include myself in honoring Jackie Gallagher, Tommy Lyons and also Walt Conaway who died in Vietnam in the spirit of Memorial Day.
anonymous [05-29-2008]

Andy Anderson:I want to commend you on your voice of reason and civility.Our folks from Germantown are quite passionate and vociferous about their political,moral,and ethical views.Your town of Longwood is nice and charming;obviously,it is conducive for calm and rational thought.There are mbany nice churches in your town;this can provoke good thinking about moral issues.Personally,I think along the situation-ethics perspective where right and wrong is determined by the situation or circumstances.I believe in Redemption and that God is just and fair.Thanks!Your intelligent,calming,and rational remarks are really appreciated.
john Bruce Schmitt [05-29-2008]

Sheila, you could not have explained Frank Rizzo better. Very well said. The mere mention of his name still invokes firestorm and controversy, as seen here. He was lifelong cop. Even as mayor, he was still a cop. He was a passionate crime fighter, making the streets safe for the citizens. I don't see that as a bad thing... The label of racist is an old one, with little grounds. Sheila said it best, what he hated was thugs, regardless of color. And, yeah, he was rough around the edges. But, he had a presence that commanded respect. When he entered the room, even a crowded room, all attention diverted to him. He had that kind of imposing presence. He was right for the time. Today, with all the pressing problems facing the city, he would be less so. But, surounded by the right people with the necessary expertise as advisors, someone like Frank Rizzo would certainly be a force to be reckoned with today. To Professor James, Wikipedia can be a good thing. But, as an educator, you should know opinion masks as fact there, so I'm sort of surprised by your reliance on it.
Dennis McGlinchey, Born & raised in East Germantown [05-29-2008]

Jack, face it....... you've goofed. It's apparent that you shouldn't have written anything negative about Mayor Rizzo based on the responses that came back. The man was loved by blacks, whites, asians.....you name it. He made people feel safe. Yeah, it's true that he wasn't Einstein, but he was no dummie either. He didn't waste time in college learning how to become an idiot. Whenever I visit Holy Sep, I pass his grave and tip my hat. Frank Rizzo was known in the entire country. He came from a good family with brothers Tony, Ralph, and Joe. His legacy proves that one man, college educated or not, can make a huge difference. The city could use another guy like Frank Rizzo right now.
Jim [05-29-2008]

Sorry for the mistake. My last post was intended for the professor and not Jack
Jim [05-29-2008]

To Dolly and all who so ardently defend Rizzo. I served in Vietnam Dolly--did you? I served with distinction in three major battles. I understand how the "white" italian american community loved their enforcer- a man who claimed that he would make Attila the Hun look like a foggot--his words. But let me remind you all....Rizzo was a rasicts and showed it--even lying down with Nixon--what a traitor and that is why he was not re-elected by Philadelphians. Also, to the blooger who said Rizzo and Balboa are the real Phila heroes--Rocky Balboa--Rambo-never served in Nam and he never stepped inside a professional fight ring. You all talk about war but I have been there. I try to work on critical issues ad injustices where I can. Maybe if everyone did we would be a lot better off. Im off to my real home....where I am a citizen and where folks can be aginst politicians and wars--IRELAND ERIN GO BRAGH Jim
Professor Jim McKernan, NC, Germantown Born [05-29-2008]

Hi, I am new to this site as of yesterday when I first posted about the alumni event on the grounds of St. Francis this Saturday May 31 from 1-4 pm. I just wanted to remind everyone about it because after reading through the older posts, I think our event fits in with the original spirit of this site - it will give folks a chance to re-live the good times that occurred while growing up in Germantown. Hope that many of you can make it, as we are welcoming all graduates or former students from St. Francis and St. Vincent. In fact, even if you didn't go to one of our schools but grew up in the area, we would love for you to come out on Saturday to reminisce and also to see some exciting things happenning in the old neighborhood at St. Martin's School, which came into existence 20 years ago when St. Francis and St. Vincent combined. Please email me at kdolan@smdeporres.org if you are interested. Thanks, and I hope to see many of you on Saturday!
Kevin Dolan, Germantown [05-29-2008]

you are sooo right jim money, rizzo should have been cloned! we should have a "rizzo" in every city in america! you can't blame him if most of the criminals and thugs where of a different race, they chose whether or not to be criminals or up standing citizens. i know of a few white people who felt the rath of rizzo and they diserved it!
anonymous [05-29-2008]

I apologize to Jack re: my post about Rizzo. It was meant for Jim. I guess I was so riled uo I got confused.
Sheila [05-29-2008]

hi,I was raised in germantown on greene st .John Devaney,I had many relatives in that area during the 60 and 70 .actually my grandparents both who were from Ireland met in east g-town in 1905 and married some where in g-town soon after,so my roots go way back.some cousins.the howleys Marty,Mike and John.Jimmy Foley R I P.mary ann and cass foley.My sisters Ann Mary AND kathleen who were born in england and then moved with the family to G-town in 1958 wow what a change of scenery,lol.Great times,The lyric ju - ju beans throwing during the movies,sneaking into the crickett club to swim at nite .half ball wire ball step ball,chink .Hanging on the back of the H bus after a snow to see how far you could slide,Skip treston usually went the farthest.summer nights watching the crowd haeading to the lots all at different times but an endless proccession.
john d, phila [05-28-2008]

I went to St. francis up till the 6th grade i would have graduated in 1972. I lived in nicetown on Cleveland Ave. but most of my family lived in Germantown. Will be interrested in hearing from some one that may be from my class
Terri Schneider Greiner, I live in Fox Chase i am 49 years old [05-28-2008]

To Jim McGinley: Did you live on the 4900 block of Greene St.? If so, my family lived two doors away. Your oldest sister Mary Catherine was one of my best friends until she married and moved away. I remember a brother, Michael, another sister whose nickname was "Teeci". Are you that Jim McGinley?
joyce radocaj ruggero [05-28-2008]

So when did Wiki become factual? Jim I retired in 1985 as a DC police officer. I grew up at 959 E. Chelten Ave. I find your comments consistent with your liberal academia backgroud. So much for your liberal tolerance. I wish they cloned Rizzo. The only one who comes close is Sheriff Joe A from Arizona.
Jim Money, Herndon VA [05-28-2008]

Jack, to know Frank Rizzo was to love him. I guess you didn't know him. I knew him, and I know that he was not a racist. Of course he didn't like thugs of any race who preyed on the weak, and neither do I. I was at his funeral, and in attendance were many black people who were his friends. I suppose they knew and appreciated that his fight against thugs of any color was to protect all of us of many colors. Jack,let's be real about it, the Black Panthers were not a sweet bunch of guys doing charity work to benefit the city. Rizzo had such a presence about him, that commanded different levels of respect. Even those who hated him, knew to respect that he meant business. I liked that about him. Politically, he wasn't a sneaky weasel like most politicians. You knew where he was coming from. Rough around the edges...I'll grant you that. But why would a person who shouts racist want to be critical of somebody being rough around the edges? tsk, tsk, Jack. No college degree...I'll grant you that one too. But there is no school in the world that can teach common sense or street smarts, which I believe is a plus for anybody wanting to be mayor a large city. Jack, I don't understand a person who thinks they know another person by reading articles written by obviously biased journalists. Is that how you drew your conclusion? tsk, tsk again.
Sheila [05-28-2008]

To Professor James McKernan - Your screed on Frank Rizzo was unwarranted and doesn't deserve a place in this blog. Most people that I knew in Germantown supported Frank Rizzo for obvious reasons, myself among them. I learned my lessons early after being robbed at knifepoint at age 14. Those were tough times and deserved a tough person. Your piece was an ideological screed with a sanctimonious tone. I recall the incident where Commissioner Rizzo forced the Black Panthers to drop their pants. I also recall that it was the same group that threw a grenade into a police booth somewhere around Cobb's Creek Parkway murdering apolice officer, whose name I believe was Von Kaln or similar. I wonder if Wikipedia recorded that? For someone, supposedly a professor, you might consider grammar and spelling lessons. They are not your strong suit and "Wiki" is about as authoritative as Mother Goose. Consider staying in Ireland.
Dan Hartnett, Formerly of East Germantown [05-28-2008]

responding to the professor?, I guess that if it were up to you, the Vatican would be moved to Ireland too. You certainly don't speak for me regarding the former Mayor. He did what he had to do which made people feel safe. He wasn't a racist, he wasn't a biggot, and he definitely wasn't a sissy. My thoughts are with Dolly and Jim.
anonymous [05-28-2008]

This website is going to hell in a big hurry. The ugliness that's spewing forth is getting ridiculous.I used to look forward to visiting this site several times a week. The way it's going now, I couldn't care less if I ever visit again. For a long time, this has been a "good time" site. A place where people could escape for a few minutes to fondly remember old friends, good neighbors, good times, school mates, etc. It saddens my heart to see what is going on here recently and, quite frankly, I can do without it. Adios! Andy
Andy Anderson, Longwood, FL [05-28-2008]

Hello all! I work at St. Martin de Porres School, which is on the grounds of St. Francis of Assisi Parish on Green and Logan Streets. Our school came into existence 20 years ago when St. Francis and St. Vincent de Paul elementary schools combined. Despite our rich heritage, we currently do not have much of an alumni network. In an effort to fix this, we are hosting an Alumni Homecoming event this Saturday, May 31, from 1-4pm in our schoolyard. The event is open to all graduates and families from St. Francis, St. Vincent, or St. Martin, and we also warmly welcome graduates from any of the other Germantown Catholic schools that are no longer in existence; cost is $5, payable at the door, and will include food, drink, student guided tours of our school building, and the chance to reconnect with old classmates! If anyone is interested in attending, please email me at kdolan@smdeporres.org to reserve a space. Hope to see many of you on Saturday!
Kevin Dolan, Germantown [05-28-2008]

As Time magazine reported: When Queen Elizabeth II visited the United States in July 1976 for the Bicentennial, she was greeted by admiring crowds everywhere she went, including Philadelphia, where she received a rousing welcome and was awarded the Freedom of the City. Even our hard-bitten leaders succumbed to the royal charm. "Philadelphia’s rough-hewn Mayor Frank Rizzo was nearly overcome by it all. ‘A little boy from South Philadelphia having lunch and dinner with the Queen,’ he gushed. ‘Only in America can that happen." If the previous generation could see fit to extend a warm, welcoming hand to representatives of our nation’s closest ally, be they of royal persuasion or not, surely we may as well? Professor James, what a shame that your Education didn't teach you to not Judge a Book by it's cover . Apparently you didn't know Frank Rizzo, if you had you would know why so many defend him . He was always there when you needed him, not off in another Country getting an "Education" he gave up " Education " to support his Mother and Siblings, that to me is a " True Man " . I traveled from coast to coast in 1973, there wasn't one person who didn't know the name Frank Rizzo and not one person who didn't say they wish they had him in their City . How many job offers do you think he got from other States ?, he got a lot of them and he turned them down, his heart belonged to Philadelphia, he vowed to never leave . God Bless America & Frank Rizzo too .
Dolly, NE Philly [05-28-2008]

To the good Dr professor James..Oh my you must have kept that vile diatribe bottled up inside of you for 30+ years just waiting to unleash it on us unworthy gtown kids. Now dont you just feel so much better you got it off your little chest and made us all see how good you are. Now run along now to your little house in Ireland and preach to those poor unworthy souls. Oh my we had a busy day now havent we.
rick rizzo [05-28-2008]

A quick note about Indiandale: I posted a while ago about the camp and Mr. Riggs and the Indian performances at the end of camp; it's back in the archives somewhere. I don't think I mentioned that about four years ago I took two of my kids out looking for it, and we found what's left of it. It's private property. You can go up the road and as far as the pond. There we were greeted by a barking dog in a bad mood. I think if you made previous arrangements, you might be able to get in and look around, but under the circumstances, I didn't pursue it on the spot.
Bruce Marshall, 56, Born, raised, still in Gtn [05-28-2008]

Hi there "Professor James" Did you follow your link to "read the entire article." Here is a part you may have missed ; "The justice department suit alleged that Rizzo's crime-fighting techniques involved encouragement of tolerance of brutal practices such as beatings and shootings of suspects. These activities were said to have continued under Rizzo's mayoralty. Some critics charged that Rizzo throughout his career had been hostile toward minorities. Rizzo replied, however, that he prevented destructive ghetto riots in Philadelphia by moving swiftly before minor disorders grew out of control. He also took credit for racial integration of the Philadelphia police force, for increased recruitment of African American officers, and for intensive anti-drug efforts in African American neighborhoods. In October a federal district judge dismissed all portions of the suit (except the portion dealing with racial discrimination) on the grounds that the government had no authority to bring it forth. The last charge was also dismissed, in December, for lack of factual support." Gee Professor you were away at school, not in the Country when the going got tough ? Did you hear of a Little Confrontation going on in a place called Viet Nam ? How many Mothers and wives who lost their Son or Husband, did you comfort and send flowers and donations to ? How many children did you know that were stricken by disease or struck by a car and laying in a Hospital bed did you visit and console their parents and start a Trust Fund for ?Did you not have any Family here in Philly you cared enough about, to feel glad that they were safe and not threatened by Violence and Destruction ? I feel so sorry for you, seems you missed a lot of "Life," I'm glad at least you got an "Education."
Dolly [05-28-2008] [Webmaster's note: the original posting contained the full article; this website included only the first three paragraphs and added the link to the full piece.]

With the passing of Memorial Day weekend thoughts came to mind of Jackie Gallagher and Tommy Lyons who were killed in Viet Nam. Two of the many young men from Germantown who gave all.
Billy [05-28-2008]

RE: THE DISHONOURABLE MAYOR FRANK RIZZO Dolly and Jim (no Last names reported) have weighed in on their affinity with the Clown Prince of Police Forces- Frank Rizzo. Lets get this straight. Rizzo was an uneducated and brutish fellow-he even made a false raid on a Black Panther meetingin 1970 only to command the persons strip down to underpants and then some naked and the news reporters pictures went around the world. He disgraced our city and none were convicted of any crime. This man was nothing more than a tough guy and with no manners or class. This was naked racism and the main reason the people in our city have never come together. The white minorities have been known to hate on the poorer blacks and newcomers. He said Ill do it. Shame on the. Learn Tolerance. I want also--if you are still reading-to recall this Rizzo fool's comical remark to the Queen of England when she visited out city of "brotherly love' in 1976 for the Bi-Centennial-Rizzo says to the Monrach.."Hi queenie..how's it going"?...he had his billy stick in his cumberbum reporters say. What an idiot who made Philadelphia look class-less and racist. I say I am glad the man is gone.He made Philly a laughing stock-as I was a postgraduate student abroad andbtutors and students would say--what is going on your town-what a fool"

If you wish for a factual account here is Wiki:

Rizzo, Frank (1920-91), U.S. law enforcement official and politician. Frank Rizzo, the heavy-handed police commissioner of Philadelphia, Pa., who later served as the city's mayor for two consecutive terms, gained national notoriety when he and a number of high-ranking city and police official were charged by the United States Department of Justice with either committing or condoning acts of police brutatlity. Francis Lassaro Rizzo was born Oct. 23, 1920 in Philadelphia to a police family. After a brief stint in the United States Navy and three years working in a steel mill, he jointed the Philadelphia police in 1943 and spent virtually his entire adult life in police work. Rizzo achieved prominence as an officer by leading vice raids on gambling houses, strip joints, and houses of prostitution. As he rose through the ranks, he became know as the Cisco Kid, a tribute to his fearlessness and taste for action.

He was named police commissioner in 1967, but his high rank did not stop him from engaging in physical police actions. Known as a "cop's cop," he showed his mettle when, with a nightstick protruding from the cummerbund of his tuxedo, he left a 1969 black-tie affair in order to lead "my men, my army" to break up a riot. During his four years service, Philadelphia's tough-talking, take-charge police commissioner expanded the police force, won the enthusiastic loyalty of his men, and kept the crime rate in Philadelphia below that of any other major United States city­-albeit amid charges of racism and police brutality.

Having made his name as an unusually successful and vigorous police commissioner, Rizzo campaigned as a law-and-order Democrat in Philadelphia's 1971 mayoral elections. On the merits of his authoritarian approach, which appealed to white ethnic voters, he was elected mayor in November 1971. As mayor, Rizzo continued to support the strong-arm tactics of the police department, and he himself made liberal use of them. He even formed a secret police force that investigated his political opponents. Rizzo claimed that severe law enforcement methods were necessary in a time of rising crime rates, but by 1979, the courts had to decide whether the city of Philadelphia, in its zeal for law and order, had violated the rights of its citizens. On August 3, 1979, the United States District Court, charging that Philadelphia Mayor Frank Rizzo and 18 high-ranking city and police officials either committed or condoned "widespread and severe" acts of police brutality.

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Junglejim again--this man was a disgrace for tolerance-and I am glad the nation MAY be starting to include minorties after January 2009. I am ashmed that there is a monument to Rizzo in the city of my birth. Truely. I am off to my Irish home tomorrow--all best wishes to my old Germantown friends-should you be travelling call me or my stanout son Ross, at my door 39 Leopradstown Park, Blackrock, County Dublin. Republic of Ireland. Dr James McKernan Professor 3607 Coventry Court, Greenville North Carolina USA 27858
Professor James McKernan [05-27-2008]

I find the attacks by "anonymous" writers incredulous- Bernie McKernan is correct-if anyone in the nation is accused as a wrongdoer then they must be faced by a named accuser--not an "anonymous" person. I think this is Bernie's point and that is indeed a far more important principle than what Mr James "jo-Jo" Pennick comes down on--Whats your problem Mr. Jo-Jo? The man is a revered citizen of our old town and was telling life like it was--not the veneered pizza parlor good stuff you guys all seem to lust on. Bernie served in the 101 airborne and is a successful man-a credit to his family with children and granchildren-noe criminal--what i find criminal is your lousy attitude---you seem to be the person with anger and "baggage" complaining about a man who said he did a childhood indiscretion--may i tell you something special-he is a special man because most people are not as honest as Bernie. Would you ever say you did anything wrong on this website? I doubt it. Credit goes to McKernan. You seem to be of the ilk-I can castigate my fellows but never show up as a real person. Shame on you. Stand up as a citizen and name yourself before you accuse a good man who was at most being humourous about our tough upbringing. I am 62 and if Germantown. Bernie is right you need some more understanding. Webmaster I ask in the interests of all that all messages be signed with a name. Jack of Gtn.
jack, Philadelphia [05-27-2008]

Dolly from NE Philly, Amen! The city could use a few dozen bulldozers with some more Frank Rizzo's at the helm. People don't realize that we have our own Iraq right here! Inocent people are getting shot and killed in Philly every day. The people who criticized Rizzo need to have their heads examined. He was never, ever, a racist either. Those big mouthes don't realize the positive impact that he had on all the neighborhoods. We don't see any statues of W. Wilson Goode, John Street, Bill Green, or even Ed Rendell. The most famous statues in the city are of two Italians: Frank Rizzo and Rocky Balboa because they weren't afraid to kick ass.
Jim [05-27-2008]

John Bruce Schmitt - I error in addressing my thank you to Bob McCreight for writing the blog on Rowland "Mole" Adamoli. Thank you for remembering my Uncle. Jo-Anne age55 West Norriton,PA
Jo-Anne [05-27-2008]

Bob McCreight - I am Rowland's "Mole" niece. I would like to say Thank You for writing a beautiful note about my Uncle. Yes, he does have a sister, Jean and brothers Mario and Carl. He also has a sister Constance (Connie) who was the oldest sister and a older brother Rudy. Jean, Mario and Carl are alive and doing well. My uncle was a great person and he is missed more and more each day. Thank you for a beautiful blog on my Uncle. Jo-Anne age 55, West Norriton, PA.
Jo-Anne [05-26-2008]

Obviously who ever made derogatory remarks about the " Honorable Mayor Rizzo " did not live through the 1960s & 70s . While other big Cities throughout the States " BURNED " our City " DID NOT ". A man who did what the times compelled him to do, he got the job done and did what was necessary to keep our City out of crisis . When faced with the Powleton Village Move situation, 20 minutes and a Bull Dozer took care of the problem, and the neighborhood didn't burn to the ground and cost the City millions of dollars and law suits . Before his death in July of 1991, Frank Rizzo the " Gentle Giant " to those who knew him, won the Mayoral Primary against the endorsed Candidate, proving he was if not loved, at least well respected by people of every race and creed in our City . No Monument is large enough to honor Frank Rizzo he was bigger than life .
Dolly, NE Philly [05-26-2008]

Edmund Randolph is in a new book. I was going to quote it but don't have the specifics.
Julia McLean, Teacher, 61, [05-26-2008]

Thankyou Bob McCreight for pointing out the purpose of Memorial Day, yes our friends who died in war need to be remembered today. Please do not forget Pvt. Robert Chambers, from 200 block of Church Lane...a childhood pal, who was found in Cambodia, when it was illegal for our troops to be there. Also rememebr Pvt. Joseph Flanagan, of Rittenhouse Street, who came home from Nam and died of agent orange cancer. They had dreams too. Remember them. Jim.
Jim [05-26-2008]

It doesn't affect me one way or another if somebody submits their name or doesn't. It just raises my curiosity when posts are signed "Anonymous"...but I'll live. :) I just think we'd all like to know if we ever knew the anonymous ones...but it's no biggie. Just keep posting those great memories that sometimes jolt our own memories. It's fun to reflect on our youthful days in Germantown.
Sheila [05-26-2008]

Anonymous, Frank Rizzo was THEEEE man! It was good that he brutalized the bullies and didn't take crap from anyone. I heard the lady from Action news this morning say that Rizzo brutalized people. We don't see her statue anywhere in the city and never will. I say this: People get what they deserve. If they want to go around acting like animals, then they should be treated like animals. She made it seem like he was a bad guy and did bad things. Face it, Frank Rizzo was a hero! He had respect and he beat up many people who deserved it. He had to do what their families failed to do. The city needs another like him because he made people feel safe. What's sad is that the new Mayor has to fight ignorance and red tape to try to keep the streets free of assault weapons. Think of it this way: These legislators and people in authority are supposed to be college educated. They can't put a single law into effect that bans assault rifles in Philadelphia to keep themselves and others safe? It should be a simple thing. It shows how educated they really are. Do they love old policies more than their own welfare? How many more people have to get killed before a permanent ban is put into effect? I give the new Mayor a lot of credit. Who would want to be the Mayor of Phlladelphia?
Jim [05-25-2008]

On this Memorial Day Weekend lets remember Two East Germantown boys who gave their lives in service to Our Country. GSgt Joseph Mc Creight USMC 12/19/66 Germantown High School PFC Thomas Lyons USMC May 1, 1968 Cardinal Dougherty High School the 40th Anniversary this year.
Bob Mc Creight, 54, Havertown [05-25-2008]

I was looking for a Bernadette Mc Creight. She is my dad's neice and she contacted us, but I cannot find her e mail.
Bob Mc Creight, 54, Immaculate 67 La Salle High 71 [05-25-2008]

Matt Primus:I am honored to submit this blog about your uncle-Rowland "Mole" Adamoli" on Memorial- Day-Weekend.Mole was a courageous,brave,fearless, patriotic man and soldier who paid the ultimate price for our country.I went to St. Francis["55"] with Mole.He went to Roosevelt after that.I believe he knew Nicky L. there,nobody in their right mind would have messed with those two guys.I had lost my father and he was always friendly to me.One day,at lunch-time,we were walking home from school and he invited me for lunch at his home on Ashmead St. near Greene.It was the 50's and his sister [Jean??] had made "Ravioli".It was absolutely delicious.I got hooked on Raviolli and Italian-food. Eating that good food forces one to go to the gym. Mole also had two brothers-Carl and Mario.Germantown Boy's Club benefitted from Mario's dedication;he was well liked and respected. At "GBC",Mole played soccer,he was a fullback and he made the goalie's job much easier.At the club.he was always talking to Bud ALEXANDER and Mike Gallagher,they really liked him.He and I were on the basketball team at St.Francis.He was our enforcer and rebounder;he was smart and would talk to our opponents and get them off their game.Mole also liked to box-with gloves or bare-knuckles.I did not like to spar with Mole;he was relentless and strong. After a round with him,your body was bruised and your head was aching.He liked Carmen Basilio who was a boxer and former marine.He liked by our classmates-girls and boys.He had a good party at his house and he was always turning off the lights. I might add the babes were very good- looking,some were hot.Your Uncle Rowland was a good guy with an unique personality.He was a proud marine who died serving our country.Mole loved his family,friends,Germantown and his country.I was honored and privliged to have known " ROWLAND MOLE ADAMOLI "
John Bruce Schmitt [05-25-2008]

This seems to be taking on the character of a full fledge blogging forum rather then what the webmaster intended I'm sure. I haven't seen any complaints from him/her as to subject matter and only recently the webmaster's note regarding the free exchange of ideas. I will offer my 02. I never perceived Bernie McKeman's memories(at 13) as bragging or believed he led a life of crime as a result of his youthful indiscretions. How do you know who he became the rest of his life? What amends he made? I can tell ya for myself I was in the choir and an alter boy but thats not to say I didn't make some mistakes in my life. We all have to answer for our own actions and sins. "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone" Get off your high horses people. Many people who have done wrong have corrected that and gone on to become wonderful human beings.
anonymous [05-25-2008]

Bernie McKernan - Stealing money, or anything else out of people's cars, does not "pale in comparison to those who will not come forward and sign their names ...". What a ridiculous statement. The anonymously authored message that has so angered you, was an appropriate response to your unapologetic recounting of your youthful thievery. So what, if they didn't want to post their name? There is no moral equivalence between choosing to remain anonymous on this website, versus stealing money from strangers. The fact that you still joke about it all these years later, tells volumes about the type of kid you were then and the adult that you are today. I wonder if some of that "pin money" that you took from a car belonged to an old lady trying to get by on only her monthly Social Security check. I wonder if you would think it was funny if some 13 year delinquent stole money, or a cell phone, or something else out of your car tonight. I knew kids like you when I was growing up, but none of you were a credit to Germantown. You prayed on innocent people then, and still think it's funny now. So sad. And by the way, your Biblical quoting is out of context. God fully expects us to judge our fellow man with respect to societal behavior. It is only the final judgement that God reserves for himself.
James "Jo-Jo" Pennick, Rubican St. [05-24-2008]

I agree w/ you Bernie about folks who are anon should not be allowed to post--no guts. If you have a comment you should have the guts to post your name. The moderator should make this a requirement. Joe Taylor
joe Taylor [05-24-2008]
[Webmaster's note: Requiring a name or an email will hinder the free exchange of ideas. Signing one's name adds credibility to the comments.]

J B Schmitt, while at the gtn reunion in wildwood last weekend, numerous people told me how much they enjoy your blogs. They make for interesting reading. Keep them coming. Having played b ball at the queen lane project myself, i know your stories to be true.
john burke, 54 NE Philly [05-24-2008]

Shawn - I'm afraid that there doesn't seem to be much information available on Camp Indiandale. The Boy's Club evidently had to sell it many years ago. Unknown who owns it now. I was able to find the property on Google's satellite map system (it wasn't easy to identify). For those of you who remember it, when you arrived on the bus ride from GBC, you entered the camp on a private road with woods on both sides. Eventually the road swung around to the left and around the lake were we swam and went row boating and canoing. On the far side of the lake were buildings like the canteen, and the Recreation Hall where they showed movies sometimes (also, Mr. Riggs had all of his Indian costumes in the first floor of the building). On the satellite pictures I can see that The Annex building (where many of the staff including Bud Alexander, and Mario Adamoli, lived during the summer season) is still there. However, it looks like the Mess Hall, which was one of the newer buildings back in the 60's, is gone. It appears that the house that Mr. Harris (GBC Director for many years) used to stay in, is still there. Also, the big old house that the caretaker and his family lived in, is there too. I can see the three cabins in the Senior camper area, but the five or so cabins for the juniors seem to be gone. Before the Boy's Club owned it, Indiandale was a Boy Scout camp. Originally, it was a health resort built in the late 1800's. There are certainly hundreds of kids with fond memories of their two week stays at Camp Indiandale. At the end of every two week camping period (four per summer), the members of Mr. Riggs' Indian Club put on an authentic indian show for the campers and visiting parents. GBC was extremely fortunate to have someone like Robert Riggs, who was not only an expert on the Leni Lenape Indians, but also an accomplished nationally recognized artist (his work is often available on Ebay).
Rob [05-23-2008]

To anonymous for calling me out about rifling through cars when i was a lad of 13.: I admit that it was a cowardly act & a crime but it pales in comparison to those who will not come forward & sign their names when pointing a finger at their accuser. "I was a juvenile, you i presume are an adult?. Let it go, "Judge ye least ye be judged".
bernie mc kernan, Bernie, maryland,67yrs. St.Vincent's, N.Catholic "58" [05-23-2008]

to anonymous bob O'donnald, john fries raymond duffy john colemier and that group were class matesof mine. sounds klike you are from the fernhill area. bud alexander means you went to the G-Boys club.I agree with john schmitt all was not gravey but i used to walk fron 6700 germantown ave down to 4900 if a trolley did not come along between 11 and 12 at night never had a problem. The guns that were available were mostly zip guns that you made yourself. heard wild tales of the 40s wild times with the boys back from the war. guns are to easy get today
ray dawes, 65 years old lived on clapier st 1948 to 1964 graduated st francis in 57. germantown in 61< nicolleties in 64 when i got married. [05-22-2008]

for john Bruce Schmitt, What a story teller you are. You don't even know what the word Bocce means. Yeah, those guys were really tough and the mean and hungry pit bulls were really afraid. Ciao back
half Irish/ half Italian [05-22-2008]

Matt Primus, Brigantine NJ, age 59 [05-22-2008]

We loved lived in Germantown and still proud to say I grew up there. My grandparents were Alberta and LeRoy Slack and we lived at Sheldon and Wister St. They were regulars at the 239 Tap Room on shediker. My parent are Dorothy Slack Watt and my dad was Fred Cahill. My Stepdad was Buddy Watt and all of us were born and raised in brickyard. The homes were big and nice with backyards. I have all fond memories of growing up with friends and family. It's funny we would move away and only last 5 or 6 months and then right back to sheldon st. I heard there was a reunion in Wildwood this past weekend sorry I missed it.
Debbie Cahill Scaltrito, I lived now live in Wildwood, NJ and I'm 58years old [05-21-2008]

Debbie Cahill Scaltrito, I lived now live in Wildwood, NJ and I'm 58years old [05-21-2008]

&w Ed Farrar:Your remarks about the differnt sides of the tracks[Germantown Ave.] and the bad actors in your neighborhood was quite stimulating.You would do well in a sociology class.I lived on the west side of the tracks[Gtn. Ave.] on W. Hansberry St.At the time[50's&60's],my neighborhood was middle-class.I played football on the Gtn. Friend's field off of Midvale Ave.,and I ran on the track at Penn-Charter but I did not swim on the river of da- Nile in Egypt.I was always aware of the hard-reality of urban-life.My past memories of Germantown are not simply romantic and surreal.I played basketball at the" Queen-Lane] playground[Penn&Pulaski].The court was hard-asphalt littered with broken-glass and bottles.Mean and hungry dogs roamed the playground.These dogs never entered the court,because the dudes with the scars on their faces,chests,and arms would bite them.In the stairwells of the project,other youngmen were playing cards or shooting dice.Sometimes the gangbangers from the Brickyard and Haines St. would visit "Pulaski-Town]-looking for trouble.The homeboys from Pulaski-Town did not call"911",they dialed "347"-if you know what I mean.Some of these guys became ministers,others went to jail for life.One of them robbed my sister's drug-store.Ed!Both sides of the tracks could be problematic.You were fortunate to be a part of that great Italian culture and tradition.Now,you live in that nice middle -class town in Chester,Va.and you you blog very well.Obviously the nuns did a good job with you.Is there a "Bocce Club" in Chester?Do your neighbors know about"Enrico Caruso"?My point is-Germantown was not paradise but the good,decent,hard-working people made everything worthwhile."CHIAO-CHIAO"
john Bruce Schmitt [05-21-2008]

I welcome your forthcomings on any of the following Germantown lads and lassies: Bob O'Donnell, Paul Jiminez, Dickie Masterson, Jeannie Masterson, Jack Brogan, Sunny Kennedy, Ray Mc Gough, John Payne, Bobby Terranova, Maureen Duffy, Ray Duffy,Dave Glancey, Jim Howard, John Fries, John Kohlmeir, Dave Leonard, Duncan Hubley, Ralph Gatto,John Fowler, Frank Klock,Fred the Fern Hill Park Guard, Alan Goode, Johhny Mc Geehan, Jimmy Kelly, Carole Courtney, Joann Wengen, Bobby McGinly, Mike Rose,Connie and Margie Tippet, Mike Connors, GooGoo Guarnella, Urban, Bruce, Kenny and Ricky Schmitt, Tom and Joe Lynch, Neil McElroy, John Mc Donnell,Huey Mooney, Paul"Bud" Alexander, T-Ball Watkins, Mike Gallagher, John O'DOnnell, Jim and Ed Kehan, Billy Daly,Hughie McInaw, and so, so many more to be future listed God bless you and yours.
Anonymous [05-21-2008]

Bernie Mc, I wouldn't be too proud of telling this site of how you rifled cars. We talk about how bad crime is today and you were part of the problem back then.
anonymous [05-21-2008]

How can I find info on Camp Indiandale? location, still there, anything?
shawn, born in germantown [05-21-2008]

To Bob Campbell We had a great time at the Brickyard/Germantown reunion down in Wildwood. Where were you at?
Bill Tresnan [05-20-2008]

hi kathy this is angela cruz yo can write me back at this email adress on yahoo c.angela86@yahoo.com i left st. jose in 69
Angela Cruz, nj [05-20-2008]

Kathy, John Ireland was my husband, He was not a Lightcap, although he was family through the heart. John's very good friend Sue Lightcap was able to make a home for John when he was young through her sister Jean. John loved the Lightcap/Milletto family and remained a part of thier life, the entire family, even Gram Lightcap,were there for us during Johns life and his death. One of our twin daughters "Addi Jean" is named after Jean Lightcap.
Teri Ireland [05-20-2008]

Cheryl, That's good advice. Most of the people that I know who grew up in Germantown, focus on the good times and fond memories of family, friends, neighbors, and the area. It used to be a great place. Many of those families were Italians and were very close knit. Some of those Germantown people were bad eggs too, but couldn't compare to what goes on now. When someone got their ass kicked, they usually deserved it. They were typically the ones who went around looking for trouble and found it. When you think of it, that practice helped to keep the neighborhood safe. There was more respect in those days and guys used their fists instead of guns. The city is unable to thwart the current gun violence, which is tragic. We were recently talking about the former Mayor...Frank Rizzo when he ruled the city. I remember seeing a cop on practically every corner. I heard it said that Rizzo could have liberated Vietnam with the Phildelphia Police Department of the 70's. He probably could have. Imagine how Rizzo would have reacted to three of his cops getting killed in two years. I remember this infamous quote while he was Mayor: "They want to play rough. They've named the game and I assure you...they lose."
anonymous [05-20-2008]

yo mouse,remember? wildwood in the summer of 84? i miss your mom,she used to take dana and maureen so they could play with your niece,lauren.whats new? ill be mad if i dont hear from you,kathy
kathy mcmonagle [05-19-2008]

chaz,how the hell are you?why arent you comissioner yet?you should see my girls,all grown up .steve and i are grandparents! e mail me mcmonaglek5@yahoo.com
kathy mcmonagle [05-19-2008]

to anonymous,i knew a john lightcap /ireland. if this the person you are looking for,he passed on a few years back
kathy [05-19-2008]

mike russo? are you the same mike who married carol henry?if so i lived with her at the "groupie" at high and morton
kathy [05-19-2008]

angela cruz,i lived at saint joes from 73 to 77 then went to live in gonzaga house.e-mail me and i can give you more info
kathy clayton [05-19-2008]

Bruce Marshall:You certainly have great knowledge of the area west of Morris St. in W.Germantown.You worked at "Chet Wayne Market" where my brother[Rick] worked.He also worked at "Manor Drug".He also liked Charlie and Marshall at the market.I never experience that kind of friendliness when I go to stores in "the burbs".Being older,I was disappointed to hear that the Wissahickon- apartments had deteriorated.In the 50's and the 60's,it was a place where many diffent kind of residents lived- professionals,paraprofessionals,students from Textile and Woman's Med.There would be little parties on the balcony.There were many nice apartments on Queen Lane,King and Wissahickon.This was all good for the Hot-spots in the area-especially on Friday-night. We would go to Crane's{333 Queen lane] and have a strong drink to clear the tonsils.I would head to the"Pub"with Tom Boyle whose family owned bars on Hunting Park and Allegheny Avenues.There were many women who went there on Friday-night.Tom really connected with the Irish Lassies.He let them know that his mother was from Ireland and how much he loved"Danny Boy"-he was very much into music and singing.His favorite Question-"What county in Ireland is your family from?We would then invite the ladies to "The Continental".At the door,we would be greeted by "Hughie Cannon",he would smile and say,"Good Evening-Ladies and Gentlemen".It was fun-drinking,talking,dancing and the music in the background.David Mcnulty[Morris St.] would recite "Shakespeare and Richard Burton".Tom Boyle would then sing,"Some Enchanted Evening"-it was then time for breakfast. We then headed to the"Night Cafe"[my house] which was across the street.We made breakfast and the tired damsels left early,but the femme-fatales stayed for dessert.I loved the femme-fatales;they were sassy,brassy,and they had an attitude.We would adjourn to the Parlor which had a big red grand-father chair and a large painting with a woman feeding a little red-rooster in the barn-yard. We had night-caps,coffee and listened to jazz-Edith Piaff or Billie Holiday.The Parlor had a unique mood-cool,mellow and yet a nocturnal-energy.When the birds started chirping,and the crickets were cricketing;the ladies would head home to get their beauty-rest for Saturday-night.Friday-night was fun but Saturday- night was special. We were just a group of guys from G-town trying to indulge these nice women in a little hospitality and conviviality.For me,Germantown was a great place to grow up and live.
John Bruce Schmitt [05-19-2008]

Hi Cherly,you said it all we all had unhappy times in our lifes but it made us stronger,an they are part of our memories good or bad that's how life goes,you are so true about our old neighbors they were all part of our family,and they were their for us no matter what,I still miss that the most.Thanks for the note.Sandy
anonymous [05-19-2008]

Ed Farrar, We dont always have to be so happy happy in here. I remember all the bad times too, I just choose to get over them. Why pull up bad memories and bring everyone down. I too had 6 brothers and one sister and lived in a 3 bedroom home but you know what, it was safe, small but cozy, I knew all I had to do was bang on the wall and one of the neighbors would come running to see if everything is ok. Today you have to blow a trumpet in your neighbor ear and still you only get the occasional nod from them. And the houses are so big they echo. Yes my brothers got in trouble with different gang members now and then but the neighbors well they all came together in time of need and I felt safe. Today you can die on the streets and your so call neighbors will pretend they heard nothing. Yes the schools were small but we didnt have drugs, bad language,sex, disrespect toward the teachers because we knew we would get a whack on the behind with those long pointers. Yes it was tough but if you look at the whole picture are we any better off today in the bigger world. If we all live another 10years and still read the blogs in here in 10 years I will bet your bottom dollar there will not be all the shared memories that people have express in here. So Ed cheer up buddy, put the bad times in a jar and throw it away.
Cheryl Raffle [05-18-2008]

GBC Soccer League Juniors: Aces, Celts, SAINTS & Tigers. Babe Ruth: Clowns, Counts, Owls & VETS. Midgets: BLACK, Blue, Green, Gold, Maroon, Orange, Red & White.
Dave Linn, GBC Alumni [05-16-2008]

I know many of the folk who blog here lived on the good side of the tracks, but our accommodations above Haines Street were less than ideal. Let me first say I lived in Gtown during the 60s. So people growing up in the 40s and 50s may have lived in more ideal accommodations, circumstances, and times. I remember the row homes and cramped quarters. I recently took the tour of the Gtown area and everything looks ten times smaller from when I grew up. That’s saying a lot since most row homes were little to begin with. Yes, today they may be further run down, but not by much. The row house we lived in housed nine people with only one bathroom. Much of our time was spent running the streets. We never stayed in the house, summer or winter. Everybody knew each others business, and parents sat on their porch keeping a watchful eye. Many of the people in my neighborhood were Italian. There was a closeness and bond with Italians that I admire to this day. Our Lady of the Rosary School is tiny compared to how it looked growing up. The ink well seats and those poor Nuns wearing all that wool dress. They would sweat profusely due to no air conditioning. That is why their tempers were short and we were constantly at the receiving end of their rulers and pointers. I would often walk to Chew/Chelton and Germantown/Chelton, which was a good haul from where I lived. As time went by you could not make the trip due to being robbed and beaten up by the gangs which operated in the neighborhood (Least not us forget those times too). I will go back and reminisce with you, but will also remember some of the people who thought they were above others, but also lived in the same run down conditions. Before people comment that I am bitter, I am just seeing things as they were back then. I will go back and reminisce about the good times, but am aware of the tough times growing up too. Someone once said on this blog, folk who talk and reminisce about the great times in Gtown no longer live there; bailing when the going got tough. No argument here!
Ed Farrar, Chester, VA [05-16-2008]

Hey Shay, You're right when you said that we grew up at the GBC, I also think they got me ready for the US Army by playing in the cage and the Friday night Comandos with no lights on in the club. My only championships came late with the Saints and the coveted City Title game with Dobbins Tech. (1963) over North Catholic. These were great games, sorry they don't have them anymore.
Dave Linn, GBC 1950's & 60's [05-16-2008]

Hey thanks John B Schmitt for your kind remarks.I know that for me "growing up" in Germantown helped me through my life and everything it had for me. I do remember Mosconi's but did not play there. The Ukranian Nationals used to train "indoor" soccer at the Hollow. The new Gym I guess they opened not sure when, maybe 60' 61'? I was a kid but remember watching these guys play with a real ball knocking the hell out of each other. I Guess it was a "cage" for the "Old Heads". I was probably watching some great players back then and I'm sure I was inspired by them. Royal Street between Logan & Seymour. If I was not at the Boys Club I was hanging out with a few friends it seemed like 100's. We were typical knuckleheads! We thought we could sing (Some could) most could not. I'm sure the neighbors thought we were a bunch of alley cats in heat! We would play knuckles until our hands would bleed, mess with "Charlie HotDog" and drank Cataba Pink (rotgut), Ripple and Schmitts Beer or any other beer we could get. Just kids (teens) being kids. Some Names...Bill McMahon, Pat Mc Devitt, Louis Prete, Pete Schurr, Mooskie Beerley, Billy Murphy, Tommy Rice, Harry Metzger, Bootsie Keehan,Bill & Bobby Ryan Margie (Pio), Sandy Ciucci, Anne Flaherty, Booty Mc Gann, Cecila Amandolia, Anne Beerley made up the heart of the "croud" not gang. I again am probably missing some. Maybe others will fill in the names. Also, thanks too Bernie Mc Kernan for "Brills". I know there were some "shaddy" characters there but I was to young to know (Thanks Mike) better. I probably learned some bad habits there as well. Bernie, I cried laughing about you "finding" some $$ for coffee at Linton's....very cool. Hope to hear from others...Seamus Can anyone name all the Sr & Jr. Soccer teams from the Boys Club? Maybe remeber some great players I missed. Thanks.
Seamus Mc Williams, Germantown, Royal St.... [05-16-2008]

I played my heart out as a child in Germantown. I remember the swimming and swim team at Waterview playground. We rode our bikes all over. My friend Pat Brett lent me her bike while she used her brother Jimmy's bike. We promised our parents we would only ride on the sidewalks. I fell in love with a boy named Jack Schubert there, first love. Happy Days back then. I wonder if anyone remembers me.Terry Large
Terry Large (Vetrone), I grew up on Chew Street, I'm 66, fond memories of Gtn. [05-15-2008]

Seamus&Kevin:I really connected with your comments about Germantown and the old neighborhood.It has been over 40 years since I left G-town and through this site,we can go home again.Seamus!your remark about the chic intellectuals and sociologists teaching us about multi-culturalism and diversity really resonated with me.Living in Germantown,helped us to get along with different kinds of people.You said,"you were too short to play basketball",most people are.In reflecting on the past,unless a kid has super talent,she or he would be better off,concentrating on school and studying more.Seamus!Did you play pool at Mosconi's?,not far from Logan-Park.In that area,there were many Ukrainians who were great soccer-players.Kevin and Seamus!Keep up these interesting blogs.
John Bruce Schmitt [05-15-2008]

Frank Pannulla, can you email me and tell me more about your Father, we may be related unless there was more then one Deitch ?
Dolly, NE Philly [05-15-2008]

To Geri Vesci My wife, started teaching at St. Jude's about eleven years ago.
Dan Hartnett [05-15-2008]

Seamus Mc Williams: That pool hall you referred to at Gtn & Chelten ave's was known as "Brill's". Much of my youth & spending money was lost there but it was worth it. I met some characters & saw some brilliant billiards players. You're right about it being off an alley. That alley reeked of urine & garbage, provided a shortcut to St Vincent's church through the parking lot & lot's of opportunities to "rifle" some parked cars for pin money or a cup of coffee at Linton's. Whoaa,..... i better hold up now lest i give away family secrets.
Bernard mc kernan, maryland, 67 yrs [05-15-2008]

John Burke:I find it incredible that you played softball against the Person BROTHERS[Bol and Wes[,while I Played basketball against them.We are a generation apart.Pat McIlhinney[Knox St.],and I played for GBC against Wissahickon Boy's Club when Bol[Bill Person] played for them.He was awesome,all-over the court-a gazelle.Pat Mc. said "It was almost impossible to get a shot off.I played against Bol when he was only 6Ft.-"3" and a lean and mean-200 lbs.We would play full-court at the Queen-lane Playround with the hard asphalt.He is on a breakout when I cut him off between tne foul- line and the basket,he does a 180-spin in the air to the right-side of the basket and jams the ball in my face over the rim.Five minutes later,he made the same move to the left-side of the basket and jammed with two-hands.If Bol had gone to college,he would have been an All-American.I wonder if you knew the names of some of the guys from the Queen-lane Lounge[Higgin's bar] when you played softball against them.I played softball in the playground,from the plate near Alfred street,we would hit long-shots over the cyclone-fence on Pulaski Ave. and break the windows on the other side of the street.There was a guy named "Fonnie" who would hit the ball over the church on Pulaski Ave.-I kid you not.I also played football in that playground.I was always made Quarterback,eventhough "Darby" was an All- public.I guess that I could heave the old pigskin farther.I see that you played for a bar on Glennwood Ave.Was the bar across the street from the old north Philly station?I used to stop in"Joe Frazier's Gym" at Broad and Glenwood near the railroad-bridge.His son[marvin] was a smooth talking guy and he was also good with his dukes.I spent a lot of time in North Philly but I always liked Germantown-much better.Fairmount in N.Philly is still cool.I'll catch you later,maybe on the block.
John Bruce Schmitt [05-15-2008]

Seamus McWilliams you were my basketball coach at the boy's club in the mid 60's when i played on the hackers down in the cage and you had a stare that could catch a young wild mans attention.but you sure taught me the fundamentals of the game and i thank you today.I went throught grade school with your brother steve another good guy,tell him i was asking for him.seamus i believe in 1997 you were scouting my daughter to play for temple,she was playing for archbishop ryan but got burned out after her jr.year.ending up going to temple,you figure it out.hey seamus great hearing from you.
Johnny Hendrie, ne philly52 [05-15-2008]

wow .. a tongue lashing and from somebody who identifies his or her self as anonymous ... sorry .. just never thought of leaving an e mail address on this sight and i am full of questions ...but again ... it never occured to me to give out my e mail address ... people have found me apparently from one of the sites that lists the email addresses of anyone using this site ... at least this is what i have been told when i asked how they found me on my personal e mail address ...... if somebody is trying to reach me .. i am happy to hear this but why dont i get an email address from them so i can reach out to them .. i would be happy to do so ... rosemarie
rosemarie hite malageri [05-14-2008]

Bill Cupo And Dan Hartnett. I was reading your messages . My Children used to go to St. Jude. We live in Chalfont for over 20 years. When did your wife start working at St. Jude. geri
Geri (Mumenthaler) Vesci, Chalfont 49 [05-14-2008]

Wow! What a great site. I enjoyed all the memories when reading so many nice things about Germantown. I also have many great memories growing up in G'Town. The Hollow, Logan Park, Fern Hill Park (destroyed by the Xway!)Wissahickon. Taking the 23 to the end and the Norristown Bus to Chestnut Hill College. We played soccer there and went to "Dirty Dan's" to eat. Jumping off the bridge into the stream next to the golf course. The Boys Club, heck I basically grew up there. The Cage, The Pool and Blue & Gold. The 3rd Floor pool room. Mike Garvey took me to the "big guy" pool room on Germantown Ave above Chelten Ave. We had to walk into an alley and up some fire steps to the pool room. I probably should not have been there but I guess it was ok if Mike was there. There ar so many memories about the Boys Club, specfically, soccer. I remember so many great players; Flash Gordon, Ivory Ried, John "Porp" gallagher, Gunther, Jimmy Kolhmier, Gerry, Tommy & Ricky Baldwin, Charlie "Butch" Ducilli, John Hom, Bill & Skippy Jay. So many more. Sports was a big thing for me, as we had to play 3 sports every year. Basketball was not my thing (a little to small). I loved playing in the Cage, if you ever did you know what I'm talking about. I also believe that the Boys Club and the people who ran it helped direct me to become the person I am. I'm sure many would agree. Friday night dances at the club ( I was to young) but Saturday night at St. Michaels was great. I probably could go on and on but I'm sure that we all agree that growing up in Germantown was very special and I would not trade it for the world. So many terrific people who were from many cultures, ethnic backgrounds and we apparently did not need anyone to tell us how we should live as we knew long before it became "chic" that we all knew about diversity because we lived it. Anyway just my thoughts I hope others will respond and help bring back more memories. Thanks Seamus (Shay) McWilliams, married 37 yrs to sandy Ciucci, two great kids and three Grandkids. All the Best!
Seamus Mc Williams, 243 Zeralda St, 58, St Francis, Boys Club [05-14-2008]

Penny Brett: Lovely post (05/12/08). Your extensive family roots and sharp recollections of Germantown attest to your fondness of our old town and a tribute to your young memory. You certainly moved around a lot. Hope your family wasn't a day ahead of the rent collector. That did go on a lot back then. Whenever I hear that old song from "Camelot"--"Don't let it be forgot, that once there was a spot, for one brief shinning moment, known as Camelot", I'm back in Germantown, again. It was the spot, for a brief period of time that nurtured so many of us. But it couldn't last...by the early sixties, many of us realized that Germantown's best days were probably behind it. There didn't seem to be a future there for us. We left, slowly at first and later like a river. However, no matter where I went, I never again experienced, nor did I expect to, that sense of neighborhood we shared "for one brief, shinning period" known as Germantown. We lived there during a special time and I just thought it was "normal." Everyone seemed to be in the same boat. Boy, was I wrong. It was very special but it took years and miles to realize it. Thank you for sharing your memories.
kevin, Santa Barbara, CA., St Vincents & CD 1962 [05-14-2008]

rosemarie, sambo died some years ago not exactly sure when. I don't know your family, but iam sure my father and my uncles might have known your family they lived on east ashmeand st. they called my father deitch
frank pannulla [05-14-2008]

Rosemarie Malageri: You keep asking "does anyone remember" this, that or the other thing, and you never leave an email address to contact you. People have been trying to get in touch with you and you never respond, yet you keep using this site as your personal message board. What gives???
anonymous [05-13-2008]

frank pannulla your right that is the sambo i am refering to ... he was santa every xmas at the sons of italy and worked at holy sepclure .. is he still living ? do you know my family the catalano's ? rosemarie
rosemarie hite malageri [05-13-2008]

That would be Sammy Grassasete he was a grave digger and played Santa at the Sons of Italy .He was my cousin and I still don't know how to spell the name, pronounced - Gras-a-set-e ; He lived on Belfield Ave off Stenton, his one Daughter lost 3 fingers in a meat grinder working at George LaScalsa's grocery store on Baynton St . He was one of the kindest men I have ever known .
Dolly, NE Philly [05-13-2008]

Hey Frank, I thought in the 2/08 archive she mentioned Wayne and Seymour so I thought she ment the Wayne and Manheim Italian Club. Your right about Joe V. being the president of the board, they used to call him gumpa(which I think is Godfaher)joe. Yeah, I had heard Sammy F. was back the Post. I'm not remembering the other Italian Club you mentioned. Was it on Germantown ave at Logan towards St Mike's or Seymour? Your goadfather's name rings a bell. Did he live in G-town?
Jim McGinley, 45 Philly [05-13-2008]

Erda:I enjoyed reading your blog about the old neighborhood in w.Germantown-especially about St. Katherine's.You and John Burke have great knowledge about that parish and Father Bogart.There were a couple of assistant-priests- one was named "Dougherty".I also played basketball with a young priest in the schoolyard.Next-door to the church was the Skelley House where there were mucho[many] cats.As you intimated,the congregation was very diverse-different classes,ages,colors and ethnicities.I even got a date for my senior-prom from one of the elegant ladies who went to Mass there on Sunday.There were people who belonged to St.Vincent's,St.Francis,and St.Bridget's,but they all went to St. Katherine's.The Order was founded by St. Katharine Drexel and she had been a member of a very wealthy Philadelphia family.The Order focused on Indian and minority children.I was on an Indian Reservation in New Mexico and the nun knew all about Mother Katherine Drexel-she was not yet a Saint.My mother was married at St.Katherine's by Father Bogart.My step-father was Episcopalian and on the alter was the minister from Calvary Church-Reverend Lester.Father Bogart was Ecumenical.Incidentally,the Calvary Church at manheim and Pulaski was beautiful,St.Luke's was also quite nice.My neighbor[Edith Bosworth],on Hansberry St. played the organ there.Those nice churches in Germantown had an impact on me.I like the architecture of churches and i enjoy the Catholic,Episcopal,and Orthodox-Christian services.There was also a beautiful synagogue on Lincoln Drive where my friend[Eric Wiener] went.This is how one thinks when rounding 3rd- base and heading home-if you know what I mean?
john Bruce Schmitt [05-13-2008]

Hi Bill Cupo. Yes, Lorraine and Ron and some other friends did recently reunite, thanks to this blog. It was a really enjoyable time and I hope we get together again. The "fair" you asked about was held every year for a while on 65th Ave. on the block between Wister St. and the corner of Price and Crittenden. The street was closed off and we just called it the block party. I don't remember who sponsored it but obviously it was a fund raiser for some charitable cause. We always enjoyed it too and it drew people from various parts of Germantown. Interesting that you are now in Chalfont. My wife teaches at St. Jude's school there. Nice to hear from you.
Dan Hartnett, Jamison, PA [05-13-2008]

To Dan Hartnett, thanks for those stories on Price & Crittendon. Some great memories and I got a kick out of them. Share some more... Price & Crittendon, as you relayed, was a vibrant corner at one time. Today, it is a drug corner. Sign of the current times....
Dennis McGlinchey, Born raised in East Germantown [05-13-2008]

jim i beleive the italian club metioned in the feb 8 2008 archives was the one located on germantown av and logan st it was called the sons of italy my father ran the club the sambo she was refering to was my godfather sam graziano who they called sambo and dresed as santa claus for the christmas parties he also worked at holy sepclure. the club club closed i believed in the mid seventies, that is when the santa maira club opened up, i think joe vassallo ran the club.the the sambo you are referring to is sammy fiaia who still works on weekends at the continental post
frank pannulla, frank pannulla 55 fox chase [05-12-2008]

my entire family: aunts, uncles,cousins, grandmothers, grandfathers, etc. all lived in Germantown at the same time. my family used to live on Narragannsette street and then moved to Rittenhouse. i was born at 1328 Rittenhouse st in 1937. i lived at Anderson and Chelten ave for several years, across from the Chelten movie, Bollands department store, and two doors from Rosner's pharmacy. the GSB bank was around the corner (at the bend) across from Milton's seafood restaurant. they had great flounder. i remember when the bank opened and they gave everyone a piece of cake and a nice metal bank. on the other side of Anderson st was the Anderson playground. they had great activities there. we were in the gym class, adagio classes and learned to walk on stilts and play ball. we entered through a missing spike in the iron fence. the playground changed when they got the "lights". then they had ballgames at night. i remember going out to Waterview to swim and the Shrine to make the novena. My grandmother lived at Chew and Locust. her name was Anna Jensen. my aunt Evelyn lived around the corner on Locust. her name was Sulock and her father-in-law owned Sulock's bakery. my uncle, George Jensen, worked at the auto place on Haines street. we all went to Immaculate Conception. i graduated 8th grade in 1952 and went to Little Flowerm graduating in 1955 and then, much later, Lasalle. i can still see Father Devereaux walking around the church property, of Immaculate, dressed in his long black robe, reading his prayer book. we all loved him. i remember the classrooms at Immaculate and how the blackboard was so high in the lower grades that we would have to step up on a ledge to reach the board. the walls slid back to make the rooms larger. we went from first to 6th grade with all girls and then in 7th and 8th, we had boys in the room, too. then, i was in the same room as my cousins John Large and George Devlin. my sister, Alice, went to commercial, which i believe was in the schoolyard at Immaculate. it was a two year highschool the Murphy family lived in the house in front of the school. i think it was next to the library. none of us could wait for the school year to end so that we could go to Willow Grove. we would have to take money in to school for a strip of tickets for the rides. we all took a packed lunch and went out on the trolley to the park. it was the highlight of our year. my father, Joe Brett, went to St Vincents and his whole family also lived in Germantown. his sister-in-law worked in the store under the Shrine on Chelten ave. her name was Marguerite. one of his other sisters, Eleanor, was a waitress at Lintons out near Germantown and Chelten. i remember that we had cousins who lived at the Gonzago Home property on Chew street. they were the Powers. my aunt lived on Chew street and her name was Ann Large. we also lived on Coulter street near Germantown avenue. we lived across from St Lukes church and a couple of doors up from the Cunningham Piano Co. one of my most vivid memories, in Germantown, is of the fire truck going through the window of the Chelten Cleaners at Chew and Chelten, near the Walton. i think one of the customers at the counter was killed. i have always been very aware of big trucks and fire engines since that happened. i remember going to Maryanne's bakery on sunday and going out to Horn and Hardarts to get their fish cakes, home fries and harvard beets. their spaghetti had green peppers in it. they had great tapioca. i remember the hardware store on Chew street, with the tin man, i think the store was called Cannings. there are so many great memories from germantown. i really don't think there was any place like it. it is apparant because so many people have such fond memories of the life there. For all of us, who lived there, it was a gift.
penny brett, rockledge, 70 [05-12-2008]

jim mcginley i knew sambo .. he was friends with my uncle vic catalano who also belonged to the italian club ... if you are talking about the same sambo he would be in his mid 80's .. would this man be this age or there about .. the sambo i knew played santa claus at the italian club every year and also worked at the cemetery ... if this is the same man please tell him i said hello . i was known as ro-ro back then but if he doesn't remember me then please mention my uncles name and perhaps he will remember him thank you, rosemarie
anonymous [05-12-2008]

Hello Danny Hartnett ! Good to see your posting on this website. I heard that you recently got reunited with my cousin Ron and my sister Lorraine in Newtown. I know you guys were corner hangers on Price st, so can you tell me what was the little fair that went on every summer on that corner? I seem to remember that it ended in the late 60's but do you know who sponsered it? The streets around there would be shut off to traffic so that it could take place. Also, there was a parade around Thanksgiving that would go up Haines st toward Chew st. I remember catching an " Oscar Meyer Weiner Whistle" from the little guy who dressed up in the chef's hat and apron. I also remember the beautiful horses that would be part of it and they would gather in Awbury park to start the parade. They left their mark all around the neighborhood. Sally Starr was in the parade one year but I don't remember who sponsered that either. Take care.
Bill Cupo, Chalfont, Pa. [05-12-2008]

John Bruce Schmitt - replying to your question, yeah I remember the Pub down on Hunting Park, and my job was at Franklin Industrial Sales behind Penn Fishing Reels on Clearfield Street. Closer to you, besides my Cricket Club job, I also worked for a few years at Charlie's Chet-Wayne Superette next to the train station at Queen Lane and King. Charlie was a sweetheart, and the butcher, Marshall Gisondi, was hilarious. I had a bike with a big basket on the front to deliver orders, and I'd dread doing deliveries to the Wissahickon Apartments - you'd walk up five flights to some old lady who'd give you a nickel tip. A miracle the place hasn't burned down. Oh well, fond memories. . .Best regards to you and all on this site!
Bruce Marshall, 56, Born, raised, still in Gtn [05-12-2008]

Is there anyone from that era going to the Immaculate Conception reunion on October 19? Have made several postings but have never heard from anyone who graduated in the years 1942 until 1948. We lived on Woodlawn Avenue across the street from Jenny's, the grocery store at the corner of Woodlawn and Devon Street. We all loved the sticky buns from Mary Ann's Bakery at the corner ot Boyer and Chelten. We went to the dances at IC Hall on Chelten Avenue. We have a million wonderful memories of those years growing up in Germantown. Our immediate neighbors were the Murphy's, Moore's, Mears, Tecce's. Did anyone have Sister Clare Regina in the eighth grade? Let's hear from my age group!
Anne Carroll Camp, Went to I.C., graduated in 1943. [05-10-2008]

After reading some archives from 2/'08 I can add some info. The Club next to Superior Bakery on Logan st. was called the Oaks Club and the Italian Club which I believe was officially Society del Santa Marie del Soccorosso was at Wayne and Manheim. If it is the same Sambo that played Santa Claus back in those days I have heard that he(Sammy F.) works at the Continental Post on Wissahickon ave.a couple days/nights. He was a good friend of my father's in the later years at the Italian Club. I went to school and played soccer with his son. My father had "stock" in these places being of Irish decent if ya know what I mean. Some annonymous asked about my brother. I would have to know who's asking w/e-mail address. There are "Universal Precautions" to follow on public sites and what is said here is basically said to the world. Use discretion. I will say he is alive and they did have keg parties at Joey C.'s (in the end he did not become a priest)house.
Jim McGinley, 45 Philly [05-10-2008]

Several asked about Heller's store and Mom's steak shop on Price St. Heller's, also known as Abe's was on Price near Brush Rd, across from Piening's Beer distributor, Harry Deal's and Vic's shoe repair (Yes Billy, your uncle). Mom Cosenza was an old Italian lady who the corner hangers there (formerly one of them) used to tease. She got a drivers license in her older age and bought a brand new 57 Ford. On the day she picked up the car, she accidently drove it right through the front of the Hiway bar on Stenton Ave near Haines. Big hole in the bar. No one got badly hurt. So much for Mom's driving. She was such a neighborhood fixture that the guys on the corner wrote a song about her incident and would sing it to her. She would then come out swinging a broom and chase them. Hilarious! There was a song at that time "I'm saving my money to buy me a rainbow, to put on your finger". The modified version for Mom went "I'm saving my money to pay for the Hiway, the Hiway........" and so on. That whole intersection was interesting, a grocery store, two luncheonettes (Jack's later Angelo's and Mom's), and two bars both with Ladies entrances (Jack's and Webby's). Except for the grocery store, each corner had a different group hanging on it, kind of like the Hick's painting "The peaceable kingdom", at least most of the time. Webby was probably no taller than five foot two but could punch like a mule. That is how he enforced his no swearing rule in his bar. Jack's, on the other hand was where all those on the unemployment check hung out. The bums there used to get our beer for us, for bribes of course. The whole corner area was something like the "primeval soup" from which mankind emerged. I could do stories all day on the happenings, many of which are a little too bizarre and hilarious for this blog. In any case, what a great place to grow up.
Dan Hartnett, Former corner hanger at Price and Crittenden [05-10-2008]

Hi John Burke, Yes, I remember Vinnie Stassen. I was in grade school with his sister Susie. She was a really cute,and fun,girl. There was a bunch of us that did 5th through 8th grade at the annex together. We drove those poor nuns nuts. I also remember when Vinnie had the accident. I used to go with Susie to the hospital to visit him. I remember helping to feed him a baked potato. I have not heard or seen either of them since graduating from St. Vincent's in 58. Lots of fond memories of that time. Pat
anonymous [05-09-2008]

does anyone remember the gundy's from cowtown .. a section of germantown where i grew up ...
rosemarie hite malageri [05-09-2008]

Does anyone know or has anyone heard of these churches ? [Germantown] Beggarstown Lutheran Church and St. Stephens Methodist-Episcopal Church Any help is appreciated, thank you .
Dolly, NE Philly [05-09-2008]

J B Smitt, I played softball against bol and wes. Bol (weavel)was a hard hitting first baseman. Around 6'4" 260lbs and his brother was big too. They played for the Queen Lane Lounge, the old higgins bar. I played for the north philly bar, glenwood and somerset.I was one of the few people in the league bigger than the Persons brothers. We had good games but my team usually won. I took a beating for playing with the boys from north philly and not the pulaskitown team.
John Burke, 54 NE Philly [05-09-2008]

Hello my fellow Germantonians.lol So, John, this is where the old people like yourself are chatting huh? lol I don't talk with you in over 20 years and chat(pc) with ya and see ya within a month. As people can see next to my name I am younger then a lot of you guys but have been reading some of the blogs/archives and do recognize some names.I am sort of related thru marriage with a regular on this site as I look thru the blogs. My family lived on Greene st. near St Francis. I am the youngest of 5. I actually went to school with someone's son who posted on here. He ran the PAL Drum and Bugle Corp in the back of our property. After contacting him, it was so nice to hear the fond memories he had of my siblings and parents.It is nice to hear the stories of Germantown with all it's characters,hang outs, age groups,tragedies, triumphs. It was a great place to grow up. John, I put a count-down timer on the GermantownBrickyard site for you guys that are going to the reunion. Message board under countdown w/my name.
Jim McGinley, 45 Philly [05-09-2008]

To anonymous: I remember Tommy McGough; red hair if I remember correctly. He was in just about all of my classes at Immaculate. We were always first in line for any event because we were short. Heller's grocery store was a kid's paradise; comic books, candy, tastycakes, cheap toys etc. If I had a quarter, I could buy a 16 oz. pepsi and a pack of Tastycake butterscotch crimpets and sit on the bench in Awbury park(or on the wall)and finish them. Then, take the empty bottle and get 2cents back and buy a candy bar called "lunch bar". They were a little shorter than a Hershey bar which cost 5cents. Every week, I also bought a Superman comic or maybe Batman and of course, a pack of baseball cards. What I wouldn't do to get back every single one of those baseball cards. I'd be rich just like thousands of other kids in that era. Imagine; putting a Pete Rose rookie card in the spokes of your bike just to make a noise. How much are they worth now? Mom's was a pinball delight; when she went into the back room, we would "float" the machine so we could rack up a big score and get an extra game. Sutter's was also a great little 5&10 store. I could walk all the way there from Haines st. and my mom wouldn't even worry about me. Oh well, next time you post to this site, leave your e-mail address; otherwise it gets recorded as anonymous. Love hearing about the old neighborhood.
Bill Cupo, Chalfont, Pa. [05-09-2008]

Dolly, I rmember the names Vince Stassen & Taters. Was he a thin fellow with blonde hair? It does ring a bell. And Ray I went to St Vincent's with a Thomas Pinto. I don't know if he tranferred out or made it to graduation in '60.
anthonyg [05-09-2008]

I have a book - Guide Book To Historic Germantown - copyright 1902 - printed by James & Sons, Philadelphia. Found it at a book sale in Bainbridge Island, WA.
Ginger [05-09-2008]

Anonymous:I lived at Hansberry and Schuyler-not far from the Wissahickon Apartments.In my time,they were a nice place to live.The balconies were a great place to relax and have a refreshment after work.Some kids would climb on the roof and wave down.The manager's name was Charles Ruddy and his children went to St. Francis.Across the street,in the 5200-block of Schuyler lived Joe Coleman Sr. and his family.Joe Coleman Sr. pitched for the Philadelphia A's in the 50's.He had a young son and I would catch for him as he pitched.Joe C. JR. would later pitch for the Detroit Tigers.In the early 70's,in one season,he won 21 games.Herb Adderly,the Hall of Fame defensive-back for the Green Bay Packers owned many of the homes across from that magnificent building-the Wissahickon Apartments. Herb A. lived in the 5200-block of Wissahickon Ave.In my own home-519 Hansberry St.,Bill Tilden lived,He was one of the greatest tennis-players of all-time.You also lived off of Manheim,He lived on McKean when his parents were alive.Anonymous!You resided in a cool neighborhood where many interesting and famous people lived.I hope these aforementioned comments resonated with you.
John Bruce Schmitt [05-09-2008]

J B Smitt, thanks for your kind words. I just got a uniform out of the closet for the funeral tomorrow. Im surprised it still fits. I think the reason i still remember the older crowd from the neighborhood is because for me, at that age, you guys were larger than life. If i remember correctly taters fell from a railroad bridge and grabbed the live wires. I dont remember the sister susan. They moved up near graterfords prison. I also remember sarge, i used to spend a lot of time on penn st in the 70's. If i remember correctly he wore an army cap a lot.
John Burke, 54 NE Philly [05-08-2008]

Anyone know or remember Vince Stassen aka Taters aka one armed bandit ?
Dolly, NE Philly [05-08-2008]

This website is wonderful...I came upon it by "accident"...does anyone remember the E. Price St, Justices,Fabrizios,Borghis,O'Rourkes,McGoughs,Eleanor Bean,Gabby,McGuires and Heller's candy/grocery,Pete's,Mom's Italian water ice,Fishers, Sutters to name just a few....????
anon, ic,cdhs [05-08-2008]

To Ed Tyrrel. I remember that meat market and agree with you that they had the best sausage and meat around, like Philly Steak sandwiches and pizza, not to mention, the Philly pretzels.
Ray Garand, New Port Richey, Fla. [05-08-2008]

Roslyn:I did know a"Sarge"from Pulaski-town.He was an African-American,not too tall but very stocky.I played basketball with him and he was a tough competitor.He was friends with Smacks,Squirrlel,Slim and Bol[Bill Persons].I remember Bol's real name because he was All- Public from Germantown.His team had Obie Snyder, Earl Proctor,Sonny Kennedy[Hollow],and they played Overbrook with Wayne Hightower and Wally Jones. The Person family lived on Morris near Penn.Bol had a brother named Wesley who was also All-Public out of Germantown.They knew "Sarge" very well.This Sarge was a good-guy who minded his own business,but nobody messed with him.I learned in life to be cautious when dealing with quiet guys.The last time I saw Sarge was at Higgin's Place at Queen Lane and Pulaski.Yes! We had a Taste.I am not sure this is the same Sarge.Harold Johnson[the boxer] was from Manayunk.These were good guys who you did not want to cross.
John Bruce Schmitt [05-08-2008]

Why anyone who would take the time to Blog, or make an inquiry about someone & then sign it anonymous,....is a mystery. Just stay in the dark like you have been all your life.
anonymous [05-08-2008]

In the Lancaster County Farmers Market in Germantown there was a Deckerts meat market at the front of the store. They had wonderful meats, including their scrapple and sausage. The sausage was the best anywhere, as far as I was concerned. The older generation gave way and in-laws took over and changed the name of the business. When the Farmers Market closed several years ago I was hoping that that business had located elsewhere, either at another farmers market in the area, or perhaps in Lancaster County. I thought that I could locate them IF I could find out the name the business went by after the in-laws took over. Sadly, I could never find that name, and was unable to use the internet to find out if they did locate elsewhere. Can anybody help me out?
Ed Tyrrell, Age 69 living in Willow Grove [05-07-2008]

John Burke:I want to offer you my condolences for the death of your brother-officer in Port- Richmond.There is something wrong when a police-officer is assassinated by a submachine-gun.Every officer should carry a UZI today.John!You always surprise me.You knew Vincent Stasson[Taters].He was from my generation-50's&60's.Did you know about the terrible accident that he had.What happened with[PO]-Taters in later years?It must have been very difficult to function.Rose Marie Hite Malagari wanted to know about the sister-Susan.Maybe,you or Erda would know something about her.She was much younger than me and she seemed like a good kid.She would be concerned about Taters.You knew Father Bogart,I went to confession to him-once.He knew my family well.Did you know a"Sarge" from 300 Penn St.-not too far from Taters?It was mentioned on the site.We will discuss Harry Clapp later.How did you know all these old guys?
John Bruce Schmitt [05-07-2008]

Hello again, I did not think you said anything wrong when you mentioned Wayne and the Bike.. I also liked the Harley in my youth.. I road on the back of bikes, If my father knew! he would have killed me! I knew Kathleen Burke from LF and Tommy. I still think of Tom as a friend. I went to Cardinal Dougherty Sr Prom with Tom… We had a ball danced all night and just had a good time. I also knew the Taters name was Vince and his sister Sue. I was in the same grade as Joe at St Vincent’s. A bunch of us went out to visit Taters once and I did not know it was Lansdale.. I wonder if he is still with us.. I thought he was one of the nicest guys. As for St Catherine’s it a gem in that neighborhood..Fr Bogart was so nice and the nuns I often wished I could go to school there because they where so sweet unlike the St Joe’s that we had at St V. I knew the Kelly’s and other money from East Falls went to Mass at St Catherine’s. The money from East Falls helped St Vincent’s parish long after the school was closed. I think that was the reasons the church stayed opened long after the school was closed.. My oldest son would serve as a alter boy when we went to mass there.. I do remember Harry! He was a nice guy he would drive us around. I remember he would let drive his car.. I think it was a falcon stick shift.. I wrecked it but that is another story.. Charlie Pinto was a good friend of my husband and mine we lived in Germantown on Morris and he lived on Woodlawn his yard backed into ours.. He was a bus driver for SEPTA when ever I see a mustang I think of Charlie.. Did you know Billy Fritz and Pinky?? They lived on King.
Erda [05-07-2008]

Does any one know about Joyce Mc Cook from Ashmead Place ?
anonymous [05-06-2008]

Thanks to this great site, I have been able to reconnect with former neighbors, co-workers, classmates and old friends. I recently travelled to the Philly/Bucks Co. area to meet up with some of my former neighbors & schoolmates. We enjoyed a delicious brunch while reminiscing about growing up in the "good old days" in Germantown. It definitely was a blast from the past hearing such names as Carson's Creek, Simon's Ice Skating Rink, Stenton Lanes, The Highway Inn. Thanks, again, for keeping this site going.
Lorraine, fl 66, cdhs 59, ic 55 [05-06-2008]

Bill James:I appreciate all the info that you provided about Kehan's and Glemser's Texaco-station.Patti Henigan-Niedzielski's uncle also owned that station. obviously good people always owned that station. I never had problems with mechanics until I moved to the"burbs".You hung out with Ed Kehan,I wonder if he is still a iron-worker.I'm glad that he did not drink if you know what I mean.My brother[Ken] and Always liked the"Kehans".Do you know what happened to Jim K?He was a decent basketball- player.How are things in Roxborough?When I was a kid,a lot of good athletes came from Roxborough and some played for Bob Levy's Little Quakers and then for Penn Charter.How are the playgrounds in Roxborough-nothing can compare to the"Hollow". It is probaly a good place to raise a family.Crane's is probaly closed.There were some good steak- shops at Henry and Walnut.I guess Manayunk is still hot.
John Bruce Schmitt [05-06-2008]

Anonymous-I like these stories about Germantown and these unusual characters who lived there.In my childhood,i think my life was rather uneventful.I lived about 5 blocks from that queen-lane station.I lived with my divorced mother in a very nice apartment.I did not play sports,ride motor-cycles or hang on corners.I went to movies,watched tv,read books and did my homework.I liked reading about Abe-the deli-owner.He smoked a cigar,carried a little gun,and dished out advice to the pretty girls.I told my Russian girlfriend about Abe.She told me if we met Abraham,he would tell us to get married.There is one problem,she is heavy maintenance.She likes C&C-Champagne&Caviar.Have you seen the price of Beluga lately.
anonymous [05-05-2008]

john bruce schmitt i don't think you know me but i did go to school with joey stassen .. i believe he had a sister susie who hung out with my cousin jackie catalano ... do you know if they are still hanging in and if so where .. susie was one of the nicest girls i knew rosemarie
rosemarie hite malagari [05-05-2008]

I lived in The Wissahichen Apts 5215 Schuyler St.1986 til 1997 building D apt 209,210 & 410. Laurens/King/Queen Ln was around the corner. Loved the apts.lived on Burbridge st/Manheim St.
anonymous [05-05-2008]

oh yeah Thomas Dorman aka SARGE was born march 1952
roslyn [05-05-2008]

John Bruce Schmitt [05-03-2008],,Hey John, My daughter's father Thomas Dorman Jr aka SARGE was from pulaski town. He grew up @ 342 W.Penn St. He has a sister Bev. He did 2 tours in Nam when he returned he bought a 2 story crib Wayne & Maheim.Married Sandy.best friends were Howard Johnson(deceased),bruce & denise Carter, Bruce Preston.He worked for City of Philly 20yrs to the date he passed 07/16/02..My babbies daddy. Did you know him.
roslyn [05-05-2008]

I lived on East Duval St. from 1939 until my parents, Edith and Ed Tyrrell, my brother Howard (15 years younger than I), and I moved to Glenside in 1959. My family belonged to the First Presbyterian Church in Germantown, at Germantown and Chelten, next to Lintons. My father was a route 23 trolley car operator, and I rode the route 23 the whole time I went to school, first to Jenks in Chestnut Hill, and then to Central High, changing to the route 26 trolley at Germantown and Chelten. My father's best friend, a wonderful man by the name of Charles Gibbons, also worked on the trolleys, lived on East Price St, and he and his mother and sister went to St. Vincents. I was "hooked" on trains at an early age, so my favorite places were the E&H hobby shop on Chelten Ave and Burhanna's paint and hobby on Germantown Ave north of Vernon Park. It later moved to Germantown Ave south of Washington Lane, and later yet was bought by Bob Davis, whose son Eddie was a friend of mine. My other good friend, Eddie Louckes, was also interested in trains and lived on east Washington Lane. My mother worked first part time and then full time at the Henry Johnson Flower Shop on Germantown Ave south of Washington Lane, next to Davis Paint and Hobby. Goldner Packard was also in the block, and around the corner on West Washington Lane was a Tucker agency. I don't think that they ever got a car, since only 50 Tuckers were ever made. There were numerous wonderful small businesses on Germantown Ave between Walnut Lane and Johnson St. My wonderful dentist, Jay H Eshleman, who practiced until he was 93, and died in March 2008 at age 97, was on Germantown Ave north of Johnson. My wife, Mary May, was also a Germantowner, living on Maplewood Ave across from Penny's parking lot. She went to Germantown High, and her parents were both school teachers, her father at Germantown High. She has an older brother Tom, who went to Central, and a younger brother George who went to Olney. She and I met as children at First Pres and were married there in 1961. Growing up in Germantown was a wonderful experience. I could not have asked for a better childhood.
Ed Tyrrell, Age 69 living in Willow Grove [05-05-2008]

Born and raised in Philly I love the buildings, musuems,pizza, hoagies,pretzles,dietz&watson hotdogs,the el train,cobble stone streets of gtown.fruit &veggie stands,vendors,76ers,eagles
roslyn hines, 45,frm philly pa,frm west philly to G-town [05-05-2008]

Tommy Pinto............. Does any one know about him? I grew up with him and would like to know more on how he is doing.
Ray Garand, Stuck in the Sun Shine state......... [05-05-2008]

Erda:Your comments about the people of that Queen Lane milieu were very inciteful.I agree that an individual should not be judged by their physiognomy or attire,it might belie their intrinsic nature.St.Luke said,"Judge Not,And Be Not Judged".Your cousin- Wayne Armstrong rode a bike and I agree with you that he was really a good guy.I've known many bikers in my time from Philly to Asheville,NC to Taos,NM and I do not sterotype them.At the"Infamous Rolling Stone-Concert" in California, there were many good bikers.I was happy to hear that Wayne A. did well and I was unhappy to hear that he passed away.I bumped into Wayne with his wife in the 80's at Crane's in Ambler.They were with another couple named Kloch whose father owned the butcher-shop at Wayne and Manheim.Lou Pauzano fron the "Hollow" worked there.I'm happy to hear "Old Abe" was trying to protect you from some of the bad actors in the neighborhood.I must reiterate the fact that I thought Wayne was "OK" in my book.Please forgive me if an old-man with a gun makes me nervous.On King-Street,in an apartment across from Abe's,a kid sticks his head into a window and was blasted. My older-brother[Jack] had a friend who played Russian-Roulette when he drinking whiskey.Even- though he was "Irish",the odds went against him.I would shoot hoops for a slight wager with the home-boys from the Queen Lane apartments[project].Yes!Many of them carried weapons,on these occasions-my jump-shot was errant.I played pin-ball at Cabbage's in Pulaki- Town where the crowd could be rough but I felt safer if you know what I mean.I knew Tony DaMore Sr. whose barber-shop was across from St. Katherine's.After Mass on Sunday,Dennis Glancey and I would get a shoe-shine from Bill-the boot- black.Grace Kelly's relatives went to Mass at St.Katherine's.One niece's name was Meg Davis.She had relatives who lived on the Oak Road,I liked that street.That also was a tragedy what happened to Taters.John Burke used to hang at Queen Lane Station-a little bit.Kids would walk on the roof of the bridge over the railroad-tracks.Anyone of us could have fallen on those live-wires.Sometimes life can become a Greek -Tragedy.On a brighter- note,although I'm older-it was so interesting to take that walk on Queen-Lane.Yes!The donuts and the cinnamon-buns at H. bakery were fantastic.
John Bruce Schmitt [05-03-2008]

Just wanted to let you all know I saw the Geter with the Heater (Jerry Blavat) down at the Phily Racetrack and I dance in the bar to his music, right in the casinos. What a blast. And I have to say that Jerry looked great for his age. Sure brought back a lot of memories from Wagners. LOVE IT!
Cheryl Raffle [05-03-2008]

This site is becoming a bunch of short stories
anonymous [05-03-2008]

Erda, i used to go into Abe's and had forgot the name of Velma's until you mentioned it. There was a big pickle barrel when you first walked into the store. I hung around with chalie pinto, my sister kathleen dated tommy pinto. She graduated LF in 65. Dirty melvin lived on queen lane, he had a sister named linda, i think their last name was layton. Taters real name was vincent stasson, he had two younger brothers, harry and joey. They lived on penn st till about 63 then they moved to lansdale. I used to go up their house for visits. Do you remember harry clapp, his fingers were webbed and his eyes bugged out. I was really afraid of him . Abe used to smoke cigars when he cooked your food. The joke was sometimes your food would get ashes in it. Fr. Bogart took me to my first phillies game in 1963. I still remember it like it was yesterday. I was the only kid from St Francis on the trip. I stood out like a light bulb.
John Burke, 54 ne pHILLY [05-03-2008]

Hey Joe DePero - You have a great memory, even though it was temporarily scrambled; after all, that was 40 years ago. . .Yes, I went to Drexel and worked for the Navy, and had the '55 Chevy, although I didn't let people drive it. I sold it to Vince Jurgaitis, who still has a place down the street also! And yeah, my Mom shopped loyally at Manny's forever - in fact she had a stroke and was wandering around in Manny's in a daze, and Janet got her over to the hospital. She's been gone over 6 years, but lived to 92. Hope you're doing great!
Bruce Marshall, 56, Born, raised, still in Gtn [05-03-2008]

To Anonymous: "Hello / Goodbye" You missed my entire point. Nevertheless a nice story about the Sheraton in Annapolis. The Sheraton has long given way to what now stands on the waterfront & is called the Hilton. I'm sure the same scenes & senario's play out on wknd's there still. Hotel room bill, pizza etc just for a "lil nookie"? Antbody ever hear of parking lot romance until the third date? chuckle!
Bernard mc Kernan, retired sailor Annapolis Md 67yrs. [05-03-2008]

Hello again, Dennis, I am glade you enjoyed the Philly Skyline Looking at some of the neighborhoods bring back memories.. John, Yes we knew that Old Abe packed a gun.. And he had the best pin ball machines in the neighborhood,. He seemed worry about us girls sometimes.. Maybe because he knew more about the guys then we did and because we where young he was a better judge of charter.. Remember Velma’s store a couple of doors down.. We would hide our cigarette behind the can goods in her store.. They were from up state.. Wilkesboro if I remember right.. Now for my cousin, Wayne Armstrong, He was a terror but a good guy. He grew up to have his own business in Plymouth. National Apparels’ All I know it has something to do with car insurance claims .That was after her ventured with a couple of body shops in Germantown.. Wister Body Shop was one on Wister St near Belfield,, He passes not to long ago. Did you know Taters he lost his arms on the Coulter Street Bridge. And dirty Melvin, the Pinto’s.. My girlfriend Kathy when to Private School but I do not think she dated Penn Charter Boys.. I am a few years younger then you.. Graduated St Vincent’s in 61 and LF in 65.. Haas’s bakery had the best crumb cakes ever.. Mr DeMoore *spelling had the Barbara shop across for Haas’s.. I went to school with this daughter Ann Marie. She went to private school also at about 4th or 5th grade. St Catherine’s was the prettiest church.. Fr Bogart was sweet also.. I tell people that I use to go to Mass in a church that a Saint may have walked.. The Nuns at St Catherine’s where from her order.. Well I have to go now.. Nice chatting and remembering..
Erda [05-02-2008]

John Burke:You remember a lot about Germantown-including Manor Drug.Your cousin[Joe M.] worked there and had good rapport with Jay- former brother-in-law and pharmacist.The cute little-girl[Lynn] who lived in that cottage on Queen Lane passed away.She was your age and began smoking as a teen-ager.Her brother{Peter] teaches at "GA"in Fort Washington.You were such a young prodigy- reading "Playboy" at age-10.Did this precociousness help develop any skills,talents,hobbies later in life.I must have been slow,at age ten I was reading the Daily-News and Sports_illustrated and eating Ice-cream cones.I did take an art-class and to study the movement,rhythm and fluidity in "Dance",Tom W. and I visited "The Golden Show Bar" at Germantown and Lehigh.The ladies were fabulous.As I grew intelectually,emotionally,and aesthetically-I ratcheted up my appreciation for "Dance".I've been to many Tango-shows in Buenos Aires.Did you see Madona in "Evita" or Al Pacino in"Scent of a Woman",the Tango-dancing was very cool.I also like folk-dancing.-Mexico and Ukraine.There was a gentleman from Germantown by the name of Henry P. McIlhenney who owned one of the greatest paintings depicting the"Dance".It was called"AT THE MOULIN ROUGE".That was quite a journey from the Golden Show Bar in Philly to the"Moulin Rouge" in Paris.There was one thing better than watching ladies dance-it was to get into the act-yourself.As they would Say,"Get Those Knees Knocking and Those Hips Rocking",-Let The Good Times Roll.
john Bruce Schmitt [05-02-2008]

Bernard McKeman:I have a different take on your comments about "Hello and Good-Bye".I have a friend who was drinking and got hooked up with a babe in Annapolis,Maryland.As fate might have it,they spent the night together at the "Sheraton"on the water.IN the morning he wakes-up-hung over.He says"HELLO"!Who are You?"She Replies,"You fell asleep on me last night,and I ordered pizza.It was such a romantic evening with the cold pizza and your beer got hot."GOOD-BYE LOVER"
anonymous [05-02-2008]

Jack Glemser took over the Texaco station from the Kehan family. I used to hang with Ed Kehan. He and his two brothers, Jim and Tommy were very good soccer players. Their sisters, Linda and Kathy were very good at sports too, especially basketball. They had great parents who used to love to bust my stones (with love, of course), and were very good at it. Their father had a midget racer (sorry! that's what it was called). I was told by my mother that Jack Glemser's father had the station before the Kehan's. Jack was a great guy. He knew I didn't have a lot of money to throw on my car, so many times he'd tell me what the problem was and how to fix it, or what to replace, then I'd do it myself. I learned to work on cars because of him. I hated to see him leave that gas station. When I saw it closed and abandoned, I couldn't believe how small it was.
Bill James (Head from the Hollow) [05-02-2008]

Joe Depero, Dave Scanlan died in 1996, but you were right about the camaro, it was a 69, dark blue.I drove it a few times. It had a 350 engine and the crome rims but it wasnt an SS. He tried to drive it through mcmichael park in east falls one night and didnt make it. He bought a chevy citation after that, but always missed his camaro.
John Burke, 54 NE Philly [05-02-2008]

Hey Bruce Marshall, didn't you go to Drexel for engineering and from there you went to work for the Navy? Something about ship engines if I recall correctly and didn't you have an old Chevy maybe a 55 or 56? Hi Patti Niedzielski (Henigan) I just saw Dee the other day. How have you been? Haven't seen you in a while. Joe
Joe DePero [05-01-2008]

Erda: It is good to hear from a lady who knew the corner of Laurens&Queen Lane.most People might think that it was a boring corner,but a lot of stuff went down there.I never knew"Abe" ran a dating service.I thought He ran a luncheonette with a pin- ball machine.I found it interesting that he told you who the bad guys were.Was Abe a bad guy?He packed "Heat",I am not talking about the heat that comes from the sun.Under the apron,he had a pistol[gun,weapon,Berringer[.He let everybody know,he was not slacking,but he was packing.He always had a lot of money.Some of the guys in that neighborhood were actually nice guys.Wayne Armstrong would barrel up Queen Lane on his bike but he was an ok-guy.One guy at the time wore a six-button Benny with a scarf.Yet this guy went up to Germantown&Chelten and told this older guy to stop hitting on this Hot-blond bombshell who lived in the apartments across from Abe"s.Maybe,he was was referring to this kid who was good-looking but who liked to steal cars.My own brother worked at "manor drug and chet- wayne market.He was hard-working and clean-cut. He even dated a lass with classes who read books all the time.There was a girl who went to private- school and she dated a guy from Penn-Charter,her parents were thrilled.He was a notorious womanizer,back in the day,they were called Hound-Dogs.Incidentally,I had no personal problems with "Abe",but I was really surprised that he had this compssionate side.I knew a few ladies from "Little Flower".Most of my Female- classmates-St.Francis[55] went to Little- flower.They were attractive,smart, and good atheletes.I went to a dinner-dance with Jean Masterson and Lou Pauzano took Cousin Eileen Mc Laughlin.It was held on Rittenhouse-square in the "barclay" which was owned by John MC Shane.I took two women out from the class of "62".One was ukrainian and the other resulted in a failed marriage.When a babe said to me,"I am a little Flower_Pot,I would say "I do'nt do pot,but I dance. It was a bad-line-all the way around.Did you ever hear the Mantra of the girls from the Mount,we always get our man".I wondered what they did with them,once they landed them.Abe from Germantown would have given them -good advice.Right!
john Bruce Schmitt [05-01-2008]

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